HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976-10-19 PZC MINUTESCITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
• October 19, 1976
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Tanguma.
Members present: Jorgenson, Parker, D. Smith, Ed Smith, Tanguma,
Jones
Wanush, Ex-officio
Members absent: Pierson, Wade, Williams
Also present: Assistant City Attorney DeWitt; Assistant
Director Romans; Associate Planner House.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman Tanguma stated that the Minutes of October 5, 1976,
are to be considered for approval.
Parker moved:
Jorgenson seconded: The Minutes of October 5, 1976, be approved
as written.
AYES: Jones, Jorgenson, Parker, D. Smith, Ed Smith, Tanguma
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Pierson, Wade, Williams
The motion carried.
Mrs. Wade entered and took her place with the Commission.
III. HAMPDEN PROFESSIONAL PARK
Subdivision Plat
CASE #31-76
Assistant Director Romans stated that the preliminary design
of the proposed Hampden Professional Park Subdivision is to
be considered this evening. The proposed Subdivision encompasses
Phases 8 and 9 as identified in the Larwin Subdivision Waiver,
which was approved in October 1972. The proposed subdivision
is approximately eleven acres in size, and is located in the
southwest corner of the Larwin site. The parcel is to be
divided into two blocks, with eight lots to each block. The
lots will be 24,000 square feet in area, to conform with the
minimum lot area requirements of the R-3 High Density Zone
District. If the property were to be developed for professional
offices, nursing homes, etc., the 24,000 sq. ft. minimum lot
lot area would be adequate. However, were the property to be
developed for multi-family use, two lots could be combined to
meet the minimum lot area of 42,000 sq. ft. Mr. Tom Regan is
the developer of this site, and has indicated that the individual
sites will be sold in such size as the prospective builders
may want.
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Mrs. Romans briefly reviewed the Larwin development, which •
was to have encompassed the entire site and which was to have
been developed as a "unit". No major streets were dedicated,
but are, rather, private roadways that do not meet the City's
minimum street widths. Mrs. Romans reminded the Commission
of a meeting they had with a Mr. Pogue of the Larwin Corpora-
tion, at which time Mr. Pogue was advised it would be necessary
to plat the site prior to selling any portion. Letters have
also been written to Mr. Pogue to again advise him of the
necessity to plat the site; it appears, however, that Larwin
is ignoring any attempts by the City to contact them. The
staff has devoted considerable time discussing this matter,
and has determined that the best way to handle the situation
is to work with the individual developers of the property as
it is purchased from Larwin. Mrs. Romans stated that attempts
are being made, by working with Mr. Regan, to secure a 60 ft.
dedication for Girard Avenue through the site rather than the
30 ft. private roadway that now exists. Mr. Regan has indicated
that he wants the street dedicated before he purchases his property.
The street that would bisect the subdivision proposed by Mr.
Regan would have a 50 ft. dedicated right-of-way. There will
be no additional access to the development from U.S. 285; the
primary access will be at Lafayette and Girard and at Lafayette
and the proposed street between Girard and U. S. 285 which will
probably be identified as Hampden Place.
Mrs. Romans stated that Mr. Lou Carey, who had proposed de-~
velopment of the site several years previous to the Larwin ~
purchase and development of the site, had placed covenants
on the land limiting the residential development to 1,500
units. Larwin had also agreed to these covenants. Mrs.
Romans stated that it is her understanding that Mr. Regan is
looking more toward a professional office complex rather than
an apartment development.
Mrs. Romans introduced Mr. Regan, Mr. Starkloff, and Mr. J. D.
Willis, architect with Sternberg Partnership. Mr. Starkloff
is a former member of the Englewood Planning Commission, m.d
is a local developer.
Mrs. Romans stated that the staff report contains suggestions
that the staff feels should be incorporated in the Final Plat.
Mrs. Pierson entered and took her place with the Commission.
Mrs. Romans stated that a Public Hearing will have to be held
on the Final Plat. Pursuant to the procedure set forth in
§12-3-28 of the Subdivision Regulations, certified letters
will be sent to all adjoining property owners notifying them
of the time and date of the Public Hearing.
Mr. Tanguma asked if the Commission had any questions. Mr.
Parker asked if Larwin was a party to the subdivision? Mrs.
Romans stated that Larwin was not.
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Don Smith stated that his major concern is drainage of the site.
He stated that he does not think any of the drainage should get
off the site. Mr. Smith also questioned whether the present
drainage system would be able to handle the drainage resulting
from 10 acres of development in addition to the present develop-
ment on the site.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that the drainage plan was approved for
the entire site at the time of the Larwin Subdivision Waiver;
the original development plans called for a density much higher
than that proposed by Mr. Regan . Discussion ensueq.
Mr. Jones asked if Mr. Regan could work out an agreement with
Larwin to tap onto the storm sewers which they have installed?
He noted that there would have to be some easement rights worked
out in addition to the agreement to allow tapping onto the
storm drainage line.
Mr. Regan stated that there have been discussions between he
and Mr. Pogue of Larwin regarding the matter of drainage. As
it stands now, a condif-;," of t h eir · o ntract to purchase is
Larwin's granting an ea::;,'mc n t in o r ·k r that he can tap on to
the storm sewer drainage system ; it is also contingent upon
Larwin's dedicating the necess ar y additional right-of-way for
East Girard Avenue through the Lar win development.
Mr. Tanguma asked Mr. Regan i f h e had any idea of the type of
buildings the development would have? Mr. Regan stated that
he is looking to a medical and professional off ice park-type
development. Mr. Regan stated that a number of doctors and
other professional men have expressed a desire to own their
own building; in fact, the idea f or such a development was
brought to his attention by a local doctor . Discussion followed.
Mr. Regan stated that their purchase of the land is contingent
on the approval of the Subdivision Plat, which is contingent on
Larwin granting easements to them for the drainage and waste
water disposal and on dedication of additional right-of-way
for East Girard Avenue.
Mr. Parker asked if the roadway opening from U.S. 285 into the
Larwin site was a dedicated roadway, or a private roadway? Mrs.
Romans stated that it is a private roadway.
Mr. Jones discussed the topography of the site in the area of
South Lafayette and East Girard Avenue. Mr. Jones asked if
this topography would result i n drainage water from the site
running west and north down South Lafayette Street? Discussion
ensued. Mr. Regan stated that he felt it could possibly be
controlled with the profile of t he roadway. Mr. Jones asked
the size of the inlet trunk line on East Girard Avenue? Mr.
Regan stated that it was a triple sized line. Mr. Jones asked
if it was a 24" pipe? Mr. J. D. Willis, architect with the
Sternberg Partnership, stated t hat the pipe to t he north of
their property is oval --18 11 hi gh by 28" wide.
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Mrs. Pierson asked if Mr. Regan had done any studies on the
demand for office space in the Englewood area? Mr. Regan
stated that he has spoken with a number of people and the
majority seem to be interested in the project; he stated he
felt there is enough demand for him to make the attempt to
develop the site.
Mrs. Pierson stated that she has been trying to find property
to lease for her firm; it is her feeling there is a great deal
of vacant office space in the area.
Mr. Regan stated that he has been talking to the local pro-
fessional people, who are interested in owning their own
building, probably a 10,000 to 15,000 sq. ft. building, with
ample parking. Mr. Regan noted that medical and professional
buildings have a unique demand for parking space.
Don Smith asked approximately how many offices Mr. Regan planned
for the development ; what was the average medical building need?
Mr. Regan stated that this would depend on the individual who
purchased the lots. He noted that the professional people he
has talked to are now in much smaller quarters than the 10,000
to 15,000 sq. ft. figure he cited earlier, and they want to
get more office space and more parking space.
Mr. Jones asked if the development would be high-rise buildings
or of a lower profile --say two or three stories in height.
Mr. Regan stated that he hoped to have architectural approval
on the sites he sells; he would like to control the quality
of development and get a uniform approach to the development.
Mr. Regan repeated that he felt right now that most of the
structures would be one, two or three story buildings. Mr.
Jones asked if Mr. Regan could get architectural control as a
covenant running with the land? Mr. Regan stated that this
could be done; he would want to have a committee that would
review the building plans of each structure.
Mrs. Pierson asked if all the parking would be at street level,
or would there be underground parking? Mr. Regan stated that
this would again be up to the individual purchaser. Mrs. Pierson
stated that she was afraid we might be sacrificing some greenery
for parking lot. Mr. Regan stated that the R-3 Zone District
does have landscaping requirements that must be met. Brief
discussion _ensued.
Don Smith moved:
Parker seconded: The Planning Commission approve the Preliminary
Plat of the Hampden Professional Park Subdivision
subject to the following conditions:
1. The size of each of the proposed lots shall be no less than
24,000 square feet, the minimum area which is required for most
of the Permitted Uses in the R-3, High Density Residence District. ~
If a high-density residential development is proposed, two lots
could be combined to meet the 42l000 square foot minimum lot
area requirement.
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2. The proposed 50 foot right-of-way through the center of the
subject site will be dedicated as shown on the Preliminary Plan
and a name for that street shall be determined and it shall be
so identified on the Final Plat.
3. In order to provide for access for utility service, easements
of a width of no less than ten feet (5 ft. on each side) shall
be established along all side and rear lot lines.
4. The necessary land will be dedicated for East Girard
Place to make it a 60 foot right-of-way rather tha~ the existing
40 foot width.
5. A drainage plan shall be included as a part of the Final
Plat. Such drainage plan shall meet the requirements set by
the Director of Public Works.
6. There shall be compliance with all of the provisions of
§12~3-26 of the Subdivision Regulations in preparing the Final
Plat.
Don Smith stated that he feels the proposed subdivision will
be an asset to Englewood, and by granting the approval of the
Preliminary Design Plan, the developer will be able to proceed
to work out agreements with Larwin Corporation. Mr. Smith
stated he felt the Commission would still have enough control
to assure that the drainage problems are worked out and any
other problems shall be solved prior to approval of the Final
Plat.
The vote was called.
AYES: Jones, Jorgenson, Parker, Pierson, D. Smith, Ed Smith,
Tanguma, Wade
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Williams
The motion carried.
IV. DIRECTOR 'S CHOICE
Mr. Wanush reported on the City Council meeting of October 18th,
at which time recommendations from the Commission concerning
I-470 and a joint meeting of Western Arapahoe County jurisdictions
were received and considered by the Council. Mr. Wanush stated
that City Council tabled action on the recommendation that the
Santa Fe Drive/U.S. 285, Alternate #12, be designated as the
routing for I-470. On the proposal that Englewood host a
meeting of the Western Arapahoe County jurisdictions to dis-
cuss the matter of I-470, the date for such meeting was set
for November 4, 1976. The City Council determined they would
invite the City Councils, Planning Commission members and
administrative staff to this meeting. Mr. Wanush stated that
the decision on the I-470 routing was tabled until after the
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meeting of the jurisdictions to determine the feeling of those
communities. There have now been indications the Highway
Department will hold off making a decision until November 12th,
Don Smith stated that his personal concern is not with Alternate
#12, but rather what do we do on U.S. 285 from the Santa Fe
interchange east to South University Boulevard? We do not at
this time have either the answer or the money. Neither is there
an answer on the treatment of Santa Fe Drive from U.S. 285 north
to I-25. Mr. Smith stated there are enough traffic problems
on U.S. 285 now, and there is no money available to do the
improvements that are needed. Mr. Smith stated that Alternate
#12 seems to be an acceptable method to give access to Denver.
Mr. Tanguma stated that he feels the Highway Department will
be forced to improve Santa Fe Drive north of U.S. 285; there
is no way they could leave that part of Santa Fe Drive without
some improvement.
Don Smith pointed out that 1,5 million dollars is all that is
available to spend on the widening of South Santa Fe now, and
reminded the members of the Public Hearing scheduled for October
20th on this matter. Mr.Smith stated that Englewood cannot
come up with 50% matching funds for the improvement of U.S. 285,
He stated that he felt the City has to determine where the
money is coming from to m~ke the improvements. Mr. Wanush
pointed out that this question would pertain to any alternative ~
that was chosen. Don Smith stated that City Council had passed
a resolution in support of the widening of South Santa Fe Drive.
Mr. Wanush stated that tile State terms the widening of Santa
Fe Drive a "short-term solution", and that even with the widening,
they expect to have the same problems by 1985 that exist today.
Don Smith reiterated he felt there was a big problem money-wise,
and that no one is coixerned about money, and that it needs to
be looked into.
Mr. Wanush stated that the resolution passed by the Commission
did recognize the need for improvements. If an outer route were
to be chosen as the I-470 route, there would still be the need
for improvements on Santa Fe and U.S. 285.
Mrs. Wade pointed out 1hat Englewood stood to gain quite a
few benefits from Alternate #12 and the improvements of Santa
Fe Drive f~om U.S. 285 south; also, the construction would be
done with federal monies.
Don Smith discussed the term "transfer of funds", and stated
that such an action is not possible. He stated he had called
two Senators, both of whom assured him that transfer of monies
from the interstate trust fund to the general trust fund cannot
be done. Mr. Tanguma pointed out that Alternate #12 does not
encompass any transfer of funds, it is merely a realignment of
the proposed I-470 routing.
Mr. wanush stated that there is new legislation which does
permit the federal government to transfer an obligation from
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the Highway Trust Fund to the General Fund; he stated there is
no "cash" transfer as such. Discussion ensued. Don Smith
stated that he felt the City should try to get a commitment
from the state or federal government as to what the scope of
the project is, and what the development between Santa Fe and
University on U.S. 285 would be. He stated he felt the City
has been getting partial answers. Discussion followed.
Ed Smith stated that if the Alternate #12 route for I-470 is
chosen, the radius on the intersection will be so large it
could create problems also. He stated that he felt the only
thing to hope for is a good interchange, with a good flow of
traffic. Also, there would be a major improvement of South
Santa Fe Drive rather than the piece-meal approach that is
being considered now. He stated he did not feel Englewood
could do anything but gain from the Santa Fe/U.S. 285 route
for I-470. Ed Smith stated he didn't feel the State Highway
Department could do much to help Englewood on U.S. 285 until
some of the other local problems are solved. Discussion en-
sued. Mr. Jones stated that part of the attractiveness of
I-470 on Santa Fe is the interchanges and grade separations,
plus the 90/10 funding split ; he stated he felt this would
be a high priority for the communities affected by the I-470
routing.
Don Smith stated that he didn't feel Denver would like the
proposed routing of I-470 --the southern metro area would
benefit from the routing.
Chairman Tanguma requested the Commission members to get back
to the discussion at hand, the Director's Choice.
Mr. Wanush noted that some time ago, members of the Commission
suggested meeting with the City Council to discuss the Auto
Wrecking/Junk Yard Ordinance. City Council is waiting for a
specific date from the Commission. He suggested that possibly
we could meet with City Counc i l on November 3rd, or November
16th. Mr. Parker questioned that anything would be gained by
discussing this matter with the City Council at this time, and
that the Commission should consider the matter and then send
a recommendation to the City Council. Discussion followed.
It was determined that the Commission would not meet with the
City Council relative to this matter at this time. Mr. DeWitt
suggested that it might lead to more open discussion if the
matter were considered at a study session of the Commission.
It was determined that the Commission would meet on November
9th in lieu of the meeting scheduled for November 3rd; at the
meeting of November 9th, the discussion would center on the
Comprehensive Plan. There would also be a meeting on November
16th, at which time the Auto Wrecking Yard/Junk Yard Ordinance
would be considered by the members of the Planning Commission.
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V. COMMISSION'S CHOICE
Don Smith asked what progress has been made on the downtown
meeting? Mr. Wanush stated that he has talked to Councilman
Clayton, and planned to discuss the matter with him further.
Mr. Smith stated he felt it would be difficult to get the
downtown businessmen together until after Christmas.
Mr. Jones discussed the meeting of the jurisdictions in
Western Arapahoe County, hosted by Englewood, which is 1D be
on November 4th. He asked if there should be exhibits and
displays for this meeting regarding I-470? Mr. Wanush stated
that he would discuss the matter with City Manager Mccown and
take direction from him.
Mr. Tanguma stated that he received a letter from the Army
Corps of Engineers. He asked that the staff obtain a copy
of the Land Use Statement on Reaches 2 and 3 of the South Platte
River.
The meeting adjourned at 8:15 P.M.