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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
JANUARY 18, 1977
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 7:06 p.m. by Chairman Tanguma in the
City Council Chambers.
Members present: Jones, Jorgenson, Parker, Pierson, D. Smit~
E. Smith, Tanguma, Wade, Williams
Wanush, Ex-officio member
Members absent: None
Also present: Assistant City Attorney DeWitt
Assistant Director Romans
Associate Planner House
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman Tanguma asked that the minutes of the meeting of
January 4, 1977, be considered.
Jorgenson moved:
Jones seconded: The Minutes of the January 4, 1977, meeting
be approved as writteno
Those voting in favor of the motion: Jones, Jorgenson, Parker,
Pierson, Do Smith and Tanguma.
Those voting in opposition to the motion: None
Those abstaining: Smith, Wade and Williams.
The Chairman declared that the motion had carried.
III. SUBDIVISION PLAT
Hampden Professional Park
Final Plat
CASE #31-76B
October 19, 1976
January 4, 1977
Mr. Richard Brown, 3403 South Race Street, Englewood, Colorado,
appeared before the Commission to request that he be permitted
to make a statement on behalf of the Kent Village Association .
He stated that the Kent Village Association had not had an
opportunity to study the matter which is before the Commission,
and asked that the matter lay on the Table until such time as
the members of the Association had had an opportunity to do so.
Commission member Donald Smith stated that the Public Hearing
on the Hampden Professional Park Subdivision Plat was closed
on January 4, 1977, and that no additional testimony relative
to this quasi-judicial matter could be received at this meeting.
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In the interest of making his point that the Kent Village
Association should have an opportunity to study the matter,
Mr. Brown read from §12-3-2 of the Subdivision Regulations,
which Section pertains to Unlawful Acts, and read the defini-
tion of the terms "Divide" or "Division" which appear in
§12-3-4(e) of the Subdivision Regulations. Mr. Brown then
read from §12-3-23(a) as to the method of giving Notice of
Hearing on the Final Plato
Chairman Tanguma asked Mr. Brown for his address, which was
given as 3403 South Race Street, Englewood, Colorado.
Commission member Donald Smith asked whether or not notice of
the Public Hearing had been sent to all property owners adja-
cent to the land being platted? Assistant City Attorney DeWitt
stated that it was his understanding that such notice had been
given to all property owners immediately adjacent and adjoining
the land which is to be divided, and read from §12-3-3(b) of
the Subdivision Regulations, which Section sets forth the pro-
cedure by which the Planning Commission may waive the require-
ment for a Subdivision Plat to be prepared, approved and filed.
Mr. DeWitt stated that a Subdivision Waiver was granted to
Larwin Multi-Housing Corporation several years ago, which Waiver
was recorded, together with plans which divided the property
referred to as the "Larwin property", into nine phases, or
sections. Therefore, it is his opinion that the property as
a whole has been previously divided and the Commission is now
considering what is a redivision of a prior divisiono Notice
of the Hearing on the Final Plat was sent to Continental
Assurance Company, which company the Assessor's records
identified as the property owner to the north of the subject
area, to Larwin Multi-Housing Corporation, the owner of the
land immediately adjacent to the east of the subject area, and
to the property owners adjacent to the subject area on the
south and west as their names appear upon the records in the
Arapahoe County Assessor's office. Mr. DeWitt re-emphasized
that the Subdivision Regulations require that notice be sent
to owners of land "immediately adjacent and adjoining the land
proposed for subdivisiono"
Mr. Brown commented that Larwin is shown as a party to the
Subdivision on the Plat which was displayedo
Mr. DeWitt e~plained that Larwin had joined in the Platting
in order that the rights-of-way for East Girard Avenue and
South Gilpin Way, as they adjoin the subject area, could be
platted. Mr. DeWitt explained further that RoP.R. Brothers,
Ltd. have an option to purchase the subject land and are,
therefore, proper parties to also appear on the Plat. Mr.
DeWitt explained once again that the matter before the Planning
Commission is a redivision of land which has been previously
divided through a Subdivision Waiver.
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Donald Smith moved:
Parker seconded:
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A Public Hearing was held on the Final
Plat of the Hampden Professional Park
Subdivision on January 4, 1977, after
proper Notice was given and the Public
Hearing on this matter was closed on
January 4th; therefore, the matter is
not on the agenda for this meeting
other than to receive additional informa-
tion from the applicant which was requested
by the Commission, and the Commission
shall now return to the matters on the
agenda and hear no new information relative
to this matter.
Mro Brown stated that in his opinion, notice of the Hearing
was not given according to the Ordinance requiremen t s, and
therefore any approval given in absence of a valid Hearing
would be improper and unlawful. Mr. Brown stated that he was
giving notice to the Commission members and to the applicant,
that if they proceed on the matter at this meeting, "they do
so at their own risk." Mr . Brown continued that the Kent Village
Association owns to the east of the Larwin property and must
be heard. The Association learned of the proposed Subdivision
"only by hearsay after 6:00 P.M." on January 17, 1977, and had
not had an opportunity to study the matter or to discuss it
with the Association counsel. Mr. Brown continued that the
proceeding is important to Kent Village and that, in his opinion,
the Commission is acting without having held a proper Hearing .
Commission member Donald Smith stated it is the time for the
Planning Commission and not the audience to discuss this matter
and called for the question.
Mr. Williams moved: That the Public Hearing on the Hampden
Professional Park Subdivision be reopened.
Mr. DeWitt was asked if it would be proper to reopen the Hearing
and he stated it would be proper; but that there are time
restraints since the action on the Plat must be taken no more
than thirty days from the Hearing date. The Assistant City
Attorney added that the provisions of the Subdivision Regula-
tions have been satisfied; but that the Commission could reopen
the Hearing if there were just cause and/or a compelling reason;
otherwise, the case must be concluded within the thirty-day
period.
Chairman Tanguma asked Assistant Director Romans if Notice of
the Hearing had been given as required? The Assistant Director
referred to the Plat which displayed, and stated that the sub-
ject area is identified as Phases 8 and 9 on the maps which
have been recorded as part of the Subdivision Waiver which was
issued to Larwin Multi-Housing Corporation. Therefore, the
notice of the Hearing on the Final Plat had been sent by
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Certified Mail to all of the property owners which are adjacent
to the land now identified as Phases 8 and 9, the phases for
which the Subdivision Plat has been submitted. The Assistant
Director stated that the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance defines
"adjacent" as being separated by a street or alleyo
Commission member Ed Smith pointed out that we are not evaluating
the entire Larwin site, but only a portion of it, and if the
Hearing were to be reopened the Commission could become involved
wi th a discussion about the entire site.
Chairman Tanguma called for the question on the motion before
the Commissiono
Those members voting in favor of the motion: Jones, Jorgenson,
Parker, Pierson, Do Smith, Ed Smith, Tanguma, Wade and Williamso
Members voting in opposition to the motion: None o
Those abstaining: Noneo
Chairman Tanguma declared that the motion had carried and
announced to the audience that no new evidence would be
accepted by the Commission other than that additional inform:r
tion which had been requested by the Commission of the applicant.
Mr. Gordon Allott, 3427 South Race Street, Englewood, Colorado,
addressed the Commission. Mr. Allott stated that he had lived
at that address for three years and that he has been a lawyer
since 1929. In his opinion, Mro Allott stated, the terms
"contiguous" and "adjacent" are not the same and that "contiguous"
does not mean "adjacent". He stated that he, Mr. Brown and
Mr. Sullivan, the President of the Kent Village Association,
were in attendance at the meeting because they have a real con-
cern that the City will permit the Larwin land to be "chopped
off" 100 feet at a time, until the Kent Village boundary is
reached. Mr. Allott stated that he respectfully suggests that
the Commission keep the matter open for the consideration of
the Kent Village residents who are also citizens of Englewood
and pay taxes to the City. He stated they are concerned about
the future of the Larwin property and want an opportunity to
know what is being planned; having received word of the action
only by word of mouth on the spur of the moment. Mr. Allott
went on that it would be unfair for the Commission to pretend
to go ahead with the action because they don't know the resulting
impact of the proposal.
Mr. Allott then addressed remarks directly to Commission member
Don Smith, stating that "a gross injustice is being done" by
Mr. Smith's having insisted on a vote on the motion he had made
earlier in the meeting.
Mrso Pierson moved:
Mro D. Smith seconded:
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That .the City Planning and Zoning Com-
mission go into Executive Sessiono
Those voting in favor of the motion: Jones, Jorgenson, Parker,
Pierson, D. Smith, Ed Smith, Tanguma, Wade and Williams.
Those voting in opposition to the motion: None.
Those abstaining: None.
Chairman Tanguma announced to those in attendance that the
Commission would be in Executive Session for fifteen minutes
and the Commission members went into the adjoining Conferen ce
Room B .
The Commission was reseated at 7:45 p.m. with all members
present, and Chairman Tanguma declared the meeting to be in
session.
Mr. Williams moved:
Mr. Parker seconded: That the Public Hearing on the Final
Plat of the Hampden Professional Park
Su bdivision be reopenedo
Mr. Don Smith stated that the Commission is not considering a
zoning change or a use change as related to the Larwin property
or any portion thereof. Any use permitted by the R-3, High
Density Zone District, can be constructed on the land. The Com-
mission is considering the further division of two portions of
ground which have already been identified by a recorded Sub-
division Waiver, Phases 8 and 9, into fifteen lots with streets
which will provide access to those lots . The minimum lot area
which is proposed is 24,000 square feet, the minimum area on
which a pro f essional office building, a permitted use in the
R-3 Zone District, can be constructed. Mr. Smith reiterated
that this action which is before the Commission will not effect
the permitted use of the land. Mr. Smith stated that the
applicant must be considered and that the persons required to
be notified of the Hearing on the matter before the Commission
had been notif iedo
Mr. Ed Smith stated that he concurred with Mr. Don Smith that
the Commission is not in a position at this meeting to do any-
thing about the zoning of the land. By further delaying action,
nothing would be accomplished other than to stop the developer
from something that he could probably do by using a different
method. For these reasons, Mr. Ed Smith said he would oppose
the motion.
Mr. Parker asked Mr. John Welles who had spoken at the Hearing
on January 4th, and who was in the audience at this meeting,
what his address is and whether or not he had received notice
of the Hearing?
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Mr. Welles stated that he lives at 3602 South Gilpin Street
and that he had not received notice of the Hearing because he
is not adjacent to the subject property. Mr. Welles stated
Mrs. Fonda had received a notice of the Hearing and that he
resides "three homes down."
Chairman Tanguma re-emphasized that the zoning on the proper1y
is not being changed, that the Commission has abided by the
rules set forth in the Subdivision Regulations and that the
applicant has made every attempt to cooperate by having the
streets platted to City standards and that the action should
not be delayed.
Mrs. Pierson stated that she concurred with the remarks which
had been made. Mrs. Pierson stated she had been concerned
also about due process; but that in her opinion, the term
"adjacent" is clearly defined and proper notice of the Hearing
had been given.
A vote on the motion was calledo Those members voting in
favor of the motion were: Parker and Williams.
Those members voting in opposition to the motion were: Jone s ,
Jorgenson, Pierson, D. Smith, Ed Smith, Tanguma, and Wade.
Those persons abstaining: None.
The Chairman declared the motion had failed.
Chairman Tanguma addressed the audience that the matter would
be referred to the City Council and that they could discuss
it further with the Council if they wished to do so.
Chairman Tanguma called upon the applicant to speak to the
question of the additional information which had been requested
by the Commission at the January 4th meeting. It was noted
that copies of a written response to the Commission members'
questions had been received with the Commission packet on
January 14, 1977.
Mr. J. D. Willis, representing the Sternberg Partnership, spoke
to the question of traffic projectionso Mr. Willis stated that
an attempt had been made to compare the traffic which would be
generated by the 356 dwelling units which Larwin had originally
proposed to construct on the property identified as Phases 8
and 9, and the probable development of that same land as a pro-
fessional office park.
The following traffic projections were given:
1. Traffic intensity for the proposed 356 dwelling unit Larwin
Development would be 2,581 trips per day.
2. Traffic probable intensity for professional office use,
based upon two story building envelops as shown on the
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preliminary plan which was previously submitted, would be
2,715 trips per day.
3. The traffic intensity if the sites were to be developed
to their theoretical maximum capacity would be 4,505 trips
per dayo
The projections for the 356 dwelling units were based on the
following assumptions:
25% of the dwelling units would be one bedroomi
50% would be two bedroom units, and
25% would be three bedroom units.
The assumed traffic generation factors are:
5.5 trips per day per one bedroom;
7.25 trips per day per two bedroom;
900 trips per day per three bedroom.
As to the assumed professional office use, the following
assumptions were made:
lo The maximum building area could not exceed 35% of the
total site area.
2. An open space requirement of 25% of the total site area
would be required.
3. There would be an off-street parking requirement of one
space per each 300 square feet of rentable floor area.
4. Each parking space would require an average of 300 square
feet of area.
50 All structures would be two stories in height.
6. The professional offices would have 1250 square feet per
office.
7. There would be a traffic generation factor of 30 trips
per day per office.
Mr. Willis stated that the traffic intensity comparison between
the originally proposed 356 dwellings units on these phases of
the Larwin site, and the theoretical maximum capacity used if
the site were to be developed as medical offices, is probably
not an equal evaluation, inasmuch as no study has been made to
determine the absolute maximum number of possible dwelling units
that could be placed on the site.
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The matter of storm drainage was then reviewed by Mr. Willis,
referring to the overall Larwin drainage plan which has been
previously approved and recorded, and which was displayed at
the meeting. Mr. Willis explained that there are two catch
basins, one on either side of East Girard Avenue which is to
the north of the subject property. These are 18 x 28-1/2 inch
arch pipe. The water then flows northerly through a 24 inch
concrete pipe to a point at South Lafayette Street and East
Floyd Avenue, at which point the inlet is 30 inches, and the
runoff would then go northerly into the storm drainage system.
The capacity of the 30 inch storm sewer is 64 CFS which is
greater than the projected peak flow of 57.5 CFS. Mr. Willis
explained that these details are set forth in the addendum to
the Revised Larwin Drainage Study which was submitted to the
City on December 16, 1976, and in the letter dated January
14, 1977, copies of which letter were sent to the Commission
prior to this meeting. A representative of Meurer, Serafini
and Meurer, Inc., the Engineering firm which prepared the
Subdivision Plat, referred to the drainage plan which was
exhibited and stated that the lines shown on the drainage
plan in red are designed for a 100-year storm.
Proceeding with the information requested by the Commission,
Mr. Willis stated that the matter of the legal description on
the Plat has been resolved and that it is acceptable to the
City Engineering Division.
As to the twenty foot overlap in the East Girard Avenue right-
of-way, Mr. Willis stated that the procedure is in process
now which will convey that land back to Larwin Multi-Housing
Corporation in order that it can be platted by Larwin.
Mr. Regan stated that he has discussed the matter of outstanding
taxes with Mr. DeWitt. He stated that all outstanding taxes,
liens, mortgages, etc. will be paid by Larwin out of the proceeds
of the sale.
Mr. Parker referred to the reference to drainage on page 2 of
the January 14, 1977 letter, and stated that he had been under
the impression that the detention pond at Romans Park had been
filled in a storm which was less than a 100-year storm.
Mr. Don Smith recalled that that was prior to the construction
of the stor~ drainage system.
Mr. Parker stated that it is his understanding that the City's
storm sewer system is designed for a two-year storm and that
the run-off from Phases 7, 8, and 9, plus the Larwin units,
will fill the detention pond. He added that this will cause
flooding when the runoff reaches Dartmouth.
Mr. Regan gave each member of the Commission a copy of the
Addendum to the Storm Drainage Plan. Discussion on the storm
drainage plan continued briefly.
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Chairman Tanguma asked Mro Regan whether or not architectural
restrictions would be placed on the development? Mr. Regan
replied that there probably will be restrictions; but added
that t he consideration of architectural restrictions is premature
at this time because they have not progressed that far in their
planso
Mr. Willis was asked the source of the traffic projections an:I
he stated that they are from an Institute of Traffic Engineering
Technical Bulletin.
Mr. Wanush questioned whether or not the theoretical maximum
capacity was based on a two-story design limit? Mr. Wi llis
replied that even though it would be poss i ble to construct a
five-story building under the R-3 District regulations, it
would not be possible to provide parking and the required
open space if each of the five floors contained more than 1,000
or 2,000 square feet. He continued that it would not be
economically feasible to construct an elevator and provide
the other services for a five story building, but it would be
feasible to build a two or three story building.
Mr. Wanush asked the carrying capacity if the site were developed
with two-story structures? Mr. Willis explained th a t t he lot
sizes vary, but that based on 1,200 square feet per office,
there could be 9+ per Lot in Block 1 and up to 14 per lot in
Block 2.
Mr. DeWitt expressed concern that the outstanding matters
such as the title to the north 20 feet of East Girar d Avenue
and the several judgment liens and outstanding
taxes could be cleared up within the remaining time period.
He added that there is also the matter of the required pins
not being in placeo
Mr. Don Smith asked Mr. Regan whether or not he knew the amount
of time that would be necessary to complete the action? Mr .
Regan answered that he did not know precisely how long it would
take.
Mr. DeWitt advised the Commission not to approve the Plat con-
ditioned upon the required action being taken; but to wait un-
til the information is provided and the necessary actions com-
pleted before acting on the Plat. He stated he is t a king this
position in an effort to avoid problems in the future.
Mr. Regan interjected that if the matter of the north 20 feet
of East Girard Avenue cannot be resolved, he would have to
replat the land in a different way in any event. Until the
Deed to that land is obtained, Mr. ~egan stated, he is ''trying
to go one step at a time."
The length of time that would be needed if an extension were
to be given to the 30 day period was considered .
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Mr. DeWitt stated that Mr. Regan could give an oral waiver to
the 30 day provision at this meeting. With that action, the
Commission could continue the case to a date certain.
Mr. Regan stated to the CoIJUJlission that he is agreeable to
waiving the requirement for action to be taken on the Final
Plat within 30 days from the date of the Public Hearing, and
added that by this statement, he was granting the Waiver.
Mro Williams moved:
Mr. Parker seconded: The consideration of the Hampden Pro-
fessional Park Subdivision Final Plat
be continued until the meeting on
March 8, 1977.
During the discussion on the motion, Mrs. Pierson opined that
six weeks was too long to delay the matter and that she did
not feel a date certain should be in the motion. Discussion
on the motion continued. Upon the call for the question, the
following members voted in favor of the motion: Jones, Jorgenson,
Parker, Pierson, D. Smith, Ed Smith, Tanguma, Wade and Williams.
Those voting in opposition to the motion: Noneo Those abstaining:
Noneo
The Chairman declared the motion to continue the matter until
March 8, 1977, had passed.
The Chairman declared a fifteen minute recess at 8:45 PoM. and
announced the meeting would reconvene in the Community Room.
Chairman Tanguma called the meeting to order at 9:15 p.mo in
the Community Room. Upon the call of the Role, it was deter-
mined that all members were presento
IV. DIRECTOR'S CHOICEo
Mr. Wanush stated that at the last meeting he had made the
statement that notices sent out by the Code Enforcement Division
relative to Non-conforming Uses are sent by Certified Mail.
Mr. Wanush stated that in verifying this matter, he found that
the notices are not sent by Certified Mail, but by regular
mail. It was found that many persons refused to accept the
Certified letter and a 90% return has been experienced by
sending them-out as regular mail.
Mr. Wanush then called attention to a memorandum which was in
the packet delivered to the members on Friday, last, which was
from Mr. Brokate, Assistant Director, Code Enforcement Division.
In response to questions asked by Mr. Parker at a previous
meeting, Mr. Brokate stated that there were no violations of
the Codes in the case of the Day Care Center which was to be
located at 2990 South Logan Street . Mro Brokate stated in h:is
memo that to the best of his knowledge, the Day Care Center is
not in operation at this time 0
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Mr. Wanush also called attention to the request to withdraw
the Je f ferson Professional Building Corporation rezoning
applic at ion which was submitted on behalf of the Board of
Dir e c t ors by S. C. Percefull, MoD.
Mr. Wanush then discussed the projected plans for the portion
of U.S. 285 which runs through Englewoodo Mr o Wanush stated
that there is general agreement now that a request will be
made to withdraw Interstate 470 funds and that three substitute
projects have been identified: The 470 Parkway and improve-
ments to both South Santa Fe Drive and South Kipling Street o
Mr 0 Wanush said that there will be from 50 to 60 mil l ion dollars
which can be redistributed in the southwest area and the sooner
we, the C i ty , can agree to what is necessary to be done to i m-
prove U oS. 285, the more likely it is that it will be approved
as a project. Mr. Wanush stated that he did not mean to imply
that a decision could be made at this meeting, but that he
wanted to discuss the subject rather generally as to such
matters as: should "through" traffic be separated from local
traffic and for what distance the improvements should b e con-
sidered, i 0 e., from Broadway to Santa Fe or from a point fu r ther
east from Broadwayo Other matters which should be conside r e d
might be: to what extent UoS. 285 should be sig nalized and to
what extent should there be cross traffic?
Mr. Don Smith asked whether or not the Santa Fe/UoS. 285
interchange should be considered separately from U.S. 285?
Mr. Wanush replied that the Interchange should be consi d ered
with the Santa Fe improvements.
Mr. Wanush refer r ed to an aerial photo, a land use map and a
design for U.S. 285 prepared by SWACT, which were displayed
and stated that he would like to review some of the possible
solutions. The projected volume of vehicle tr ips per day by
the year 2000 is between 55,000 and 65,000 tr ips; an increase
of between 25% and 35%. It was pointed out that U.S. 285
is the only east-west street in the southwest area which carries
traffic as far east as Havana. One way to alleviate the con-
gestion which was suggested would be to develop alterna t ive
east/west routes; but upon examination by the Commission members,
there appear to be noneo
The possibility of making U.S. 285 into a cuplet or tunneling
it were discussed as well as other routes which could be used
to carry traffic to and from the Cinderella City Shopping
Center. The impact created by the various alternatives was
discussedo
Mro Tanguma asked Mro Wanush whethe~ or not the staff would
have the expertise to study the mattero Mr. Wanush said that
the Highway Department would undoubtedly be able to assist the
City. Discussion on the various plans ensuedo
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Mr. Tanguma gave a card to Mr. Jones and expressed the apprecia-
tion of the Commission members for his service on the Commission.
Mr. Jones has notified the City Council that he is not seeking
reappointment to the Commission.
The meeting was adjourned a ·t 10: 00 P.M.