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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
June 6, 1978
Io The Planning Commission met in informal session with
members of the Parks and Recreation Review Committee and
members of the Public Facilities and Storm Drainage Review
Committee.
Members present: Pierson, Williams, Owens, Smith
Romans, Acting Ex-officio
Members absent: Lathrop, Draper, Tanguma, McClintock,
Parker
Parks & Recreation Review Committee: Wade, Neeley, Allen .
Howard
Public Facilities Review Committee: Best, Merlin, Perrin,
Tromly
Also present: Dennis Niernberg and Mr" and Mrs. Reffel.
Mr. Owens stated that inasmuch as a quorum of the Commission
was not present, regular business could not be handled, and,
indeed, the meeting could not be formally called to order.
He suggested that possibly the Commission could hear the re-
ports from the Review Committees, and at such time as another
Commission member would join the meeting 1he formal meeting
could begin.
II" COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW COMMITTEE
PUBLIC FACILITIES AND STORM DRAINAGE
Mr. Owens introduced Mr. Charles Best, and announced that Mr.
Best would present the report of the Public Facilities and
Storm Drainage Review Committee.
Mr. Best reviewed the recommendations of the Public Facilities
Review Committee, citing the following projects this committee
feels are needed in the City of Englewood:
1 0 Community Center. It was felt that the community center
is needed to serve the growing social and recreational needs
of a diverse Englewood population. It could become a focal
point of the community, and could help attract more families
to Englewood.
Mr. Smith asked if the matter of cost on this project had been
discussed? Mr. Owens stated that the Committee had met with
Mr. Jerry Royther, the former Assistant Recreation Director,
and he had indicated the cost range would be from $4,000,000
to $5,000,000 for a "first-class" facilityo
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Mr. Best pointed out that there is some vacant land av ailable
in the proximity of the Simon Center /Malley Recreatio na l
Center, and that this vacant land should be purchased a s it
becomes available. The development of the community c ent er
could be accomplished in phases.
2. Fire Station in East Englewoodo Mr. Best stated t h at t he
Public Facilities Review Committee is of the opinion that a
fire station should be constructed in East Englewoo d; at the
present time, none of the four fire stations are locat ed east
of South Broadway. A station constructed east of S o u t h Broadway
wo uld improve the response time to those residents living near
South University Boulevard.
Mrs. Pierson noted that approximately two years ago a t a
me eting of the Commission with the Department Heads t o review
t he Capital Improvement Program budget, Fire Chief Hamilton
indicated that he felt there was adequate service t o that area
o f Englewood, that the response time was good, and t h at he
felt it was more important to relocate Fire Station #3 on
Bellev iew Avenue. She asked if the thinking of the Fire
Department administration has changed on this matter?
Mr. Owens pointed out that the matter of relocating F i r e
S tation #3, while not actually funded, is in the Capit al Im-
provement Program, and is discussed further on in the r eport.
Mr. Owens discussed the reasoning for the Committee recommenda-
tion: he noted that there wili be increased traffic and with
the probable development of the remainder of the Larwin Site,
there will be an increase in population that will hav e to be
served. Mr. Owens stated that the committee felt the r e will
be a definite need for a fire station in the eastern Englewood
sector, but pointed out that this is a "long-range" pl an, and
is not something that is needed immediately.
Mr. Merlin pointed out that it was his understanding t ha t
Chief Hamilton was in favor of the South Logan/U.S. 2 85
vi c inity as the location for the main Fire Station rather
than the location on South Elati Street where it is bu il t.
Mr. Merlin discussed the problems that the Fire Depar t ment
personnel experience when crossing Broadway to answe r a call.
3~ Little Dry Creek Improvements and Flood Control. Mr . Best
reviewed the recommendations on Little Dry Creek improvements
and fl o od control, stating that the committee urges the adoption
of Alternative #5 as the best long-term solution for f looding
problems along the Creek. The committee also recommended that
an imm e diate and on-going program of clean-up and main tenance
o f the Little Dry Creek channel should be instituted. This
would help maximiz e the capacity of the existing channel.
The committee recommends that an educational progr a m should
be developed for those property owners in the 100-yea r flood
pl ain; this program could define the nature of the p o t ential
fl ood hazard, outline the precautions those people c ould take
n o w, and make known the availability of Federally subs idized
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flood insurance. He noted that relatively few occupants or
property owners of flood plain areas are aware of or have
flood insurance.
Discussion ensued. Mr. Smith stated that he felt the educa-
tional program for those property owners and occupants in the
flood plain has already begun, noting that several flyers have
been mailed to those people. The number of people who have
taken advantage of the flood insurance program was discussed.
Mr. Merlin pointed out that there is a possibility that a lot
of people don't even know what a "flood Plain" is and are not
aware they own property in a flood plain. Further discussion
ensued. Mrs. Romans pointed out that this section of the
recommendation could be reworded to indicate that the educa-
tional program should be "continued" rather than "developed."
It was so agreed.
4. City Hall Renovation. Mr. Best pointed out that City Hall
needs remodeling to accommodate handicapped and elderly persons.
The second flood is totally inaccessible to the handicapped,
and an elevator should b e installed. Restroom facilities
should also be remodeled to accommodate those persons in wheel-
chairs, etc.
Mr. Williams stated that there is some improvement of City
Hall that has been proposed. Mr. Merlin stated that he felt
this was mandatory, particularly if the City Hall wishes to
partake in federal funding programs.
5. Swimming Pool in North Englewood. Mr. Best noted that
national standards for a City of Englewood's size call for a
minimum of two swimming pools . Englewood currently has the
one outdoor pool operated by the Parks and Recreation Depart-
ment located at Sinclair Junior High, and the indoor pool at
the High School, which is operated by the Englewood School
District and is open to the public on a very limited basis.
This committee feels there is a need for an olympic-size, year-
round swimming pool to be located in the north Englewood area.
The committee also recommends that there should be studies
conducted as to the feasibility of heating this proposed pool
with the excess heat generated by the Public Service Company
plant located in northwest Englewood. If this could be done,
the swimming pool could become a major outdoor spa, and generate
enough regional int erest to provide profit to the City from the
revenues.
Mr. Smith questioned the possibility of constructing the pool
close enough to the Public Service Company plant to take ad-
vantage of the excess heat. Mr. Owens stated that a member
of the committee proposed the idea, and the committee as a
whole felt that i t was a possibility.
6. Bates/Logan Park Expansion 0 Mr. Best stated that the com-
mittee recommends e x pansion of the Bates/Logan Park to provide
for the increasing recreational needs of the community, and to
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a l so provide areas for a detention pond for storm water runo f f,
and a clean water storage facility. Mr o Best cited the n e e d
for additional park development in the nor t heast section o f
Englewood, and also the need for the treated water storage
facilities. The committee felt that with the expansion o f
this park, it could become a multi-purpose asset to the public.
Mr. Smith pointed out that with the completion of the se cond
nine holes of the golf course, this would certainly improve
the open space /park land ratio to residents in Englewood . He
questioned the need to expand the Bates /Logan Park and to re-
mo ve structures to do so. Discussion ensued.
7. Sale of Raw City Water. Mr. Best stated that the p ossibility
o f selling untreated water to other jurisdictions woul d add
r e venues that could be used to make improvements to the Englewood
water system.
Mrs. Pierson questioned if this would involve selling th e
wat e r rights out-right? Mr. Best stated that the Water Board
wo uld not consider selling the water rights, but would lease
them. Mr. Williams pointed out that the City is now selling
water to Thornton, but did not sell the water rights; t he
proposed program would probably function under the sa me guide-
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Bo Water Plant Equipment Capitalization Reserve 0 Mr . Best
r e view e d the recommendation from the Public Facilities c om-
mittee. The high points of this recommendation are as f ollows:
1. Establish a current monthly reserve based on the f ollowing :
(a) 100% of the annual depreciation of each item o f
capitalized equipment under rules of the straight
line method of depreciation ;
(b) plus a 10% factor for equipment upgrading cos ts to
be anticipated in the year of necessary equipment
replacement;
(c) plus a 5% inflation factor;
(d) aggregating to a total annual reserve amount e q u al
to 115% of the annual amount of depreciation show n
on accounting records for each item of capitalized
equipment.
2o Require the City of Englewood's accounting system t o show
entries that would reflect current and cumulative capitaliza-
tion reserve amounts, with supporting detail by t y p e of
equipment.
3. Properly show the cumulative reserve amount in regu la r ly
prepared financial statements o
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4. Strictly reconcile bank statements with the City's capitaliza-
tion reserve account shown in the accounting re cords.
5. Reliably invest cash in the bank representing the capitaliza-
tion reserve amount to earn interest from month-to-month
and year-to-year.
Mr. Smith stated that he understood there is a provision in
the water bonds that as soon as the building program is completed,
funds will be placed in a reserve fund to finance maintenance
and repairs to the system. He stated that he did not know
whether o r not this would include a depreciation factor as the
Review Committee proposa l does.
Mr. Best then reviewed projects which were discussed and en-
dorsed by the Public Facilities and Drainage Committee as
necessary for the future improvement of the City. He noted
that these project s are p art o f the current Five-year Capi~al
Improvement Program, but th~ c ,mmittee has assigned no specific
priority to them.
1. Land Acquisition Fu ~ Mr. Best noted that land needs to
be acquired tor the City !ia l.i. parking expansion, for a community
recreation center, and for r e location of Fire Station #3. While
the current six-quarter ~ dget ccntains $100,000 for such needs,
this will not cover these t.ree projects , or other needs such
as right-of-wa y a~quisi L ·_n, etG. The committee feels that a
reserve fund for land acquisiticn should be acquired so that
vacant land can be purchased w .An it be comes available.
Mrs. Pierson questioned the need to spend racnies for the re-
location of Fire Station #3; she stated that she has never
been convinced of the need to relocate this station. Mr.
Perrin noted that the Fire Station does ser ve a pu~pose located
as it is on Belleview, and that there wi ll be a hazard getting
onto Belleview wherever the station is" Mrs. Pierson stated
that she felt this might be an unnecessary expense. Mr. Williams
stated that the taz ard might be reduced to some extent if the
pumpers were to emerge onto a local street rather than onto a
State Highway . He acknowledged that on some occasions, the
pumpers would , ::..n all probability, have to enter Belleview or
cross Bel leview. Mr. Owens stated that he understood the
computer s t ·dy 3bc"&w that the fire station was on the extreme
south end of ~h e st ·vice are a, and that it should be more
centrally lccste d. Mrs . Pierson stated that she recalled the
computer study indicated that the station should be moved only
two blocks to the nc rt ; she emphasized that she felt this is
a great expense ~Jr~ relatively small bene fit.
2. Street Im pr: -~=-a:~.. The mat er of street overlay , paving
distric ts and ~:.t. '!e ..... ~_: ..L m,Jrovement d::...str ic ts was discuss ed by
Mr. Best. The Pu0::... .... ~~c .. d::..t s Review Committee supported
the continuance of .o~e activities.
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3. Storm Drainage Improvements. Mr. Best discussed the storm
drainage program.
Mr. Smith stated that Phase 3 of the Storm Drainage Program
will be completed this Fall.
4. Pistol Range Relocation. Mr. Best noted that the pistol
range will have to be relocated, as it is now in the river re-
development expansion site. The recommended relocation is to
the site of the Englewood/Littleton Training Center. This
facility is necessary in order that police officers maintain
minimum standards of firearm qualification.
5. Broadway Median Planters. Mr. Best stated that the com-
mittee feels there is a need for beautification on South Broadway,
and supports the concept of the median planters as they have
been installed between U.S. 285 and Quincy Avenue. He pointed
out that this project would require widening of South Broadway
from Yale to Dartmouth.
Mrs. Pierson noted that the Commercial Review Committee had
made the same recommendation regarding installation of the
median planters.
6. Union Avenue Connector. Mr. Best noted that this situation
is being improved with the installation of lights on South Santa
Fe Drive.
7. 100-Year Flood Outlineso Mr. Best stated that this project
calls for the mapping of the 100-Year Flood Plain outlines on
various natural drainageways through the City. It is felt that
this project would be an aid to make residents better aware of
areas in the City that are or might be subjected to flooding.
Mr. Owens stated that this pretty well covered the scope of
the Public Facilities Committee recommendations, and thanked
Mr. Best for his presentation. He noted that he felt this
committee, which he had chaired for the duration of their
assignment, had done some very good work, and arrived at some
very good recommendations. He commended the members of this
committee on their work, and also on their good attendance at
the meetings throughout the year.
III. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Parks & Recreation Review Committee
Mr. Owens asked that the members of the Parks and Recreation
Review Committee now present their report.
Mrs. Wade, former member of the Planning Commission, stated
that the committee which she chaired throughout the year was
a small but active group. She stated that Mr. Curt Neeley,
a member of the Parks & Recreation Review Committee, would
give the formal presentation.
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Mr. Neeley reviewed the history of the Parks and Recreati o n
Department and facilities since the inception of the Depart-
ment in 1949. He noted that the City of Englewood assumed
responsibility for the recreation activity program, and create d
a Parks and Recreation Commission, in 1960. The early park
facilities consisted of one city park, 23.5 acres in ar~a,
which was sold in 1965 to the developer of the Cinderella City
Shopping Center for $1,000,000. The funds realized from the
sale of this park have been used to finance the purchase and
development of new parks throughout the City. At the present
time, only the southeast quadrant of the City is not served by
a neighborhood park. Mr. Neeley stated that the City has
approximately 114 acres of park land, and an additional 243
acres of park land is needed according to national standards
adapted to the Denver Metropoli tan area. He acknowledged
that when the golf course is completed, it will make an im-
pact on the deficit of park land and open space. Mr. Neeley
pointed out other deficiencies such as ball diamonds, basket-
ball courts, and other similar facilities.
Mrs. Pierson questioned whether the deficit of 44 basketball
courts was accurate? Mrs. Romans stated that this is based
on the national standards for a city the size of Englewood.
Discussion ensued. Mrs. Allen, member of the Review Committee
and of the Parks and Recreation Commission, stated that even
though the Parks and Recreation Department and the School
District have a very workable situation, the Recreation Depart -
ment has difficulty scheduling anything on the School District
courts, because priority goes to the school programs. Mr.
Smith asked if any study was done on the recommended standard
vs. the actual use that Englewood experiences. Mrs. Howard
stated there is a de finite lack of facilities such as basket-
ball courts for the junior high school and senior high school
level. There are facilities for adults, but there are many
requests for additional facilities for the junior and senior
high school levels. Mrs. Pierson stated that she was aware
of the need for winter volley ball facilities.
Mr. Smith pointed out that there will be two or three softball
fields in the golf course area, and that this would aid in de-
creasing this deficiency. Mrs. Wade pointed out that if the
facilities are all located in one area, or too far from the
population centers, this could cause a transJX>rtation problem.
The facilities must be readily available to those they are in-
tended to serve.
Mr. Neeley emphasized again that the greatest lack of open
space /park land is in the southeast quadrant of the City.
The Committee recomme nds acquisition of land in this section
of the City, however it may be accomplished. He stated that
the Committee did discuss the use of the Duncan Elementary
School site, and asked if the Commission had discussed this
matter with the School Board? Mr. Owens stated ihat the Com-
mission did meet with the School Board approximately one month
ago; it is the intent of the School Board to retain ownership
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on all of the schools that are to be closed. The School Board
has been approached by several groups inter ested in the use
and/or purchase of these buildings, and it is his understanding
that the use of the Duncan Building is being negotiated now.
Mr. Neeley stated that the committee advocates the purchase
of additional land to expand Cushing Park and the Centennial
Park. There is vacant land available adjacent to these two
parks at the present time. Mrs. Pierson asked if the City
could mortgage land as it is purchased? Mr . Smith pointed
out that the City can negotiate a contract to purchase on time,
such as was done on the City Hall property . Mrs . Pierson
stated that she thinks "we should move on some of these land
purchases; we have been talking about some of them for two
years, and have done nothing."
Mr. Neeley discussed specific land acquisition projects such
as the expansion of Centennial Park, the expansion of Cushing
Park and expansion of the Bates/Logan Park. Mr. Neeley pointed
out that if the land available around the Centennial Park is
acquired, it will directly connect this Park with the existing
and proposed trails recommended by the Corps of Engineers along
the South Platte River; these trails are proposed to extend
from Chatfield Dam downstream to Denver's river redevelopment
project. Mr. Neeley stated that if the vacant land adjacent
to Cushing Park is acquired, it could be used to provide a
much needed tennis court, and other recreational facilities,
as well as to provide additional open space.
Mr. Best inquired if there were any figures available on the
cost of the acquisition of land, particularly around Cushing
Park? Discussion ensued. Mrs. Howard discussed a grant that
the Parks and Recreation Commission had to turn back to the
State because there were no matching funds; these grant monies
could have been used for acquisition of additional park land
if the City could have come up with the additional matching
funds. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Neeley discussed the committee's recommendation that the
Bates/Logan Park be expanded. Mr. Neeley pointed out that the
p~rk expansion would serve several purposes in addition to pro-
viding additional open space. It was suggested that the cost
of the expansion of this Park might also be shared by the Public
Works and Utilities departments who would make use of the park
for flood control and water storage projects.
Mr. Neeley reiterated that the southeast quadrant of the City
has no park facilities or park land at this time. Mr. Neeley
pointed out several possibilities that were considered by the
committee, such as making use of the vacated Duncan School if
possible, or the vacation of some streets to develop for open
space/park purposes.
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Mr. Perrin questioned the suggestion of street vacation; he
pointed out that this might create problems for fire protection
services. He pointed out that the fire equipment must have the
proper access and maneuvering space to adequately serve a neigh-
borhood. Mrs. Wade stated that she felt Mr. Perrin had pre-
sented a good point, but felt that the entire suggestion merits
consideration. She pointed out other areas that have streets
vacated and developed as open areas, and these streets have not
been barricaded even though they have been vacated. She made
particular mention of the drainageway in south Englewood. Dis-
cussion ensued. Mrs. Romans stated that if the streets were
to be vacated and developed as open space, it would be the same
principle as some Planned Developments or cluster housing de-
velopments. Further discussion ensued. Mr. Owens suggested
that possibly some alleys might be vacated and developed for
open space purposes.
Cost factors on the expansion of the parks were discussed.
Mrs. Wade stated that the committee did not go into the matter
of cost in any depth. Mrs. Allen stated that the cost factors
change so rapidly that any figures they might have presented
would be out-of-date.
Mr. Neeley discussed facilities needed for the extension of
recreation opportunities as cited in Phase II of the River
Redevelopment Project. This project would include the second
nine holes of the golf course, bike and hike trails along the
Platte River, childrens gardens, golf driving range, lighted
softball fields, a greenbelt, and a bridge spanning the South
Platte River. Mr. Neeley then discussed further development
of Centennial Park, particularly the east and north banks of
the lake and the needed acquisition to expand this park.
The Community Center is recommended by the committee, and will
provide facilities for cultural and art programs. Mr . Neeley
discussed the need for a swimming pool, additional tennis
courts and handball courts which could be developed in the
Cushing Park expansion. He pointed out, however, that the
committee strongly favors the location of the swimming pool
to the east of South Broadway, possibly in the Bates/Logan
Park. Mr. Neeley stated that the committee also feels there
is a need for indoor ice skating facilities. Mr. Neeley noted
that the ice rink in the South Suburban District is used to
capacity and beyond now, and there is a need for such a facility
in Englewood. The Indoor Firing Range would satisfy needs of
several segments of the community, and the committee feels that
there should be such a Firing Range in Englewood.
Mr. Neeley stated that there is a need for additional ball
diamonds, baske tball courts, handball courts, and tennis courts
that can and should be constructed in the parks proposed for
expansion or acquisition.
Mr. Neeley stated that the Review Committee felt there was a
need for "quiet areas" to be developed in the parks. He noted
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that the previous activities were for "active" recreation, but
there is a definite need for quiet corners in the parks where
persons may go to read, or just sit and think. Mr. Merlin
questioned whether there is need for such an area; he noted
that some persons are refreshed by walking. Mrs. Allen stated
that the idea behind this recommendation is that there be an
area of the park where the "kids wouldn't be all over every-
thing" for the enjoyment of those citizens who want such an
area. Mrs. Wade stated that the committee felt that these
facilities should be available in addition to the active re~
creational facilities. Mr. Smith stated that he felt there
were such areas in the parks now, but that there was no way to
enforce the fact that it is a "quiet" area. Mrs. Wade acknowledged
that this cannot be enforced, but that the quiet areas should
be increased and/or expanded. Mrs. Wade stated that in most
of the parks, there is too much activity going on to really
have a "quiet" area. Mr. Perrin stated that he felt there
was a separation of active recreation and quiet areas in the
Cushing Park, and that it worked very well. Discussion ensued.
Mrs. Romans cited the Washington Park gardens as a "quiet area",
and noted that Englewood parks are of minimum area and have
maximum use. Mrs. Romans stated that Englewood does have a
need for an area similar to that in Washington Park. Discussion
ensued. Mr. Best referred to the Chatfield area; he noted
there were hiking trails and other areas that those in pursuit
of solitude could use. He did note, however, that the rattle-
snakes are in abundance, and should be treated with respect.
Mr. Neeley stated that the committee urged that drainageways
throughout the city be used and developed as open space. The
committee urged that the public relations program of the Parks
and Recreation Department should be continued and expanded.
People should be encouraged to make use of the park and recrea-
tion facilities that are available . Discussion ensued.
Mr. Owens thanked Mr. Neeley for his presentation. He commented
that it was interesting to see that several of the committees
have some up with the same or very similar recommendations.
He pointed out that there is one more Review Committee to report
to the Commission, that being the Transportation Review Com-
mittee. This committee is scheduled to make its report on June
13th.
Mr. Williams stated that he wished to commend all the members
of the Parks and Recreation Review Committee and of the Public
Facilities and Drainage Review Committee for their fine work
on this project.
Mr. Owens apologized to applicants Neirnberg and Reffel on the
lack of a quorum of the Commission, and stated that the matter
will be placed on the call for the special meeting on June 13th,
at which time it is hoped there will be a quorum.
The meeting disbanded at 9:00 P.M.
Secretary