HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-10-17 PZC MINUTESCITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
October 17, 1978
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 7:05 P. M. by Vice-Chairman Draper.
Members present: Lathrop, McClintock, Parker, Pierson, Tanguma,
Williams, Draper
Wanush, Ex-officio
Members absent: Smith
Also present: Assistant Director D. A. Romans
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Vice-Chairman Draper stated that Minutes of October 3, 1978,
were to be considered for approval.
Lathrop moved:
Tanguma seconded: The Minutes of October 3, 1978, be accepted
as written.
AYES: Parker, Pierson, Tanguma, Draper, Lathrop
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: McClintock, Williams
ABSENT: Smith
The motion carried.
III. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE
§22.4-10 b (107)
CASE #19-78
Mrs. Romans stated that Mr. Kenneth Mausolf has applied for
an interpretation of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance as it
pertains to the B-1 Business District. Mr. Mausolf is negotiating
to purchase property in the 3300 block of South Broadway, re-
ferred to as the Ambrose property.
Mr. Smith entered the meeting at 7:10 P.M. and took his place
with the Commission.
Mrs. Romans stated that Mr. Mausolf is a businessman in the
central business district, and that he feels there is great
potential for redevelopment in the central business district.
Mr. Mausolf is negotiating to purchase this property, and wants
to be able to use the former Joslins building as a museum and
showroom of antique, classic and special interest cars. He
would also move his interior decorating business from 3435
South Broadway to this building.
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Mrs. Romans stated that the B-1 Zone District allows a new car
sales lot, and a used car lot is permitted in conjunction with
new car sales. Mrs. Romans questioned that the cars Mr. Mausolf
would have in this museum and showroom could be called "used"
cars in the accepted sense of the word.
Mrs. Romans noted that §22.4-10 b (107) of the Comprehensive
Zoning Ordinance provides that: "Any similar lawful use which,
in the opinion of the Commission is not objectionable to nearby
property by reason of odor, dust, fumes, gas, noise, radiation,
heat, glare or vibration or is not hazardous to the health and
property of the surrounding areas through danger of fire or
explosion."
The use proposed by Mr . Mausolf would have to be found by the
Commission to be similar to other uses permitted in the B-1
Zone District, and the Commission would have to determine that
the proposed use would not adversely effect the District en-
vironmentally --:fumes, noise, heat, etc.
Mrs. Romans stated that the staff is of the opinion that the
use of the building for the museum and antique car showroom is
similar to other uses permitted in the B-1 Zone District. The
museum could be permitted under §22.4-10 b (3): Any use in-
tended to provide amusement or entertainment on payment of a
fee or admission charge.
Whether or not an admission fee would be charged to the proposed
museum is not determined at this time. Mrs. Romans pointed
out that the B-1 Zone District also permits such uses as new
automobile sales or repair, the auto repair shop to be an
accessory use to an auto sales use; bicycle stores, boat stores
and motorcycle stores. The staff does feel that these uses are
similar to the show room for antique cars and classic cars.
Mr. Mausolf has stated that there could be some sales as a
result of the display of these cars in the showroom and museum.
There is no question regarding the relocation of the interior
decorating business by Mr. and Mrs. Mausolf; this is a permitted
use in the B-1 Zone District.
Mrs. Romans stated that the staff recommends approval of the
interpretation, and that the use of the building for an antique,
classic and special interest automobile museum-showroom be
found similar to other permitted uses in the B-1 Zone District,
specifically:
a. As to the proposed museum:
§22.4-10b(3) Any use intended to provide amusement or
entertainment on payment of a fee or admission charge;
b. As to the display and sales:
§22.4-lOb(S) Auto Sales or repair, but no commercial
wrecking, dismantling or junk yards . Any auto repair
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shop shall be an accessory use to an auto sales use, and
used car lots are permitted when used in conjunction with
and as an integral part of a new car establishment; pro-
vided, however, the used car lot shall be subject to the
requirements as outlined in the Supplementary Regulations.
c. §22.4-10b(l3) Bicycle stores;
d. §22.4-10b(l4) Boat stores;
e. §22.4-10b(66) Motorcycle stores.
The staff recommends that the following conditions should apply
to the approved interpretation:
1. There shall be compliance with applicable sections of the
Fire Code and Building Code;
2. Vehicular access to the building shall be from the South
Acoma Street side, not from South Broadway;
3. Automobiles shall not be displayed, serviced or stored out-
side of the buildings;
4. Any repairs or maintenance shall be limited to minor
mechanical adjustments and the cleaning and polishing of
those antique, classic or special-interest automobiles dis-
played in the museum or showroom, and shall not include:
a. rebuilding or overhauling of engines or transmissions;
b. repair of automobile bodies;
c. painting or welding;
d. upholstering;
e. tire recapping;
f. steam cleaning of automobiles or motors;
g. automobile dismantling or collision repair.
Mr. Parker asked which particular structure Mr. Mausolf is
concerned with? Mrs. Romans stated that she understood the
vacant building is the one that Mr. Mausolf proposes to use,
but that he will be purchasing the entire Ambrose property.
Mr. Kenneth Mausolf
3435 South Broadway -stated that at the time he served as co-
chairman of the Centennial-Bicentennial
Committee, great interest was expressed in a museum for Englewood.
He stated that the Committee was able to promote financing for
the Senior Recreation Center, but nothing further was done in
regard to a museum. He stated that he feels a museum would be
a great asset to Englewood. Mr. Mausolf stated that he has
worked on putting the financing on the Ambrose property together
for almost a year, and is prepared to make an offer to Mr.
Ambrose. However, before making the offer, he does need a
decision from the Planning Commission that the antique car/classic
car showroom at this location would be permitted.
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Mr. Smith noted that the staff report has indicated this would
be an "interim" use. He asked for clarification. Mr. Mausolf
stated that the long-range plans call for re-development of the
property, but this cannot be done in the near future. He would
like to relocate his interior decorating business to this building
and have his business and hobby in one location.
Referring to one of the suggested conditions, Mr. Smith stated
that he also wanted clarification on what "minor mechanics"
would include. He noted that an engine can be left running for
quite a period of time while doing a tune-up. Mr. Wanush stated
that this operation would have to be in compliance with the
Building Code and Fire Code; the area where the vehicles are
permitted to run would have to have proper ventilation. Mr.
Mausolf stated that there would be engines running in the
building. He stated that the building has four levels, and
would be properly ventilated. There would be no storage of
gasoline on the premises, but there would be gasoline in the
vehicles that are in the building.
Mr. Draper asked if cars other than those owned by Mr. Mausolf
would be displayed in the showroom? Mr. Mausolf answered in
the affirmative. He stated that there would be from 40 to 90
cars on display, with a value up to $5,000,000. Mr. Mausolf
stated that the lower level would be used initially for the
automobiles, and expansion would be to the upper level. He
stated that an admission fee probably would be charged, in an
effort to keep out youngsters and eliminate vandalism. Mr.
Mausolf stated that the work on the automobiles would be on the
order of waxing, polishing, etc. Mr. Mausolf stated that he
would hope that the museum would contain other antiques also,
such as antique washing machines, etc., but it will be mainly
automobiles in the beginning.
Mr. Tanguma asked where the waxes and such products used in
the detail work on these vehicles would be stored? Mr. Mausolf
stated that they would be stored on the lower level with the
vehicles. He pointed out that this level would be finished off
and separated from the rest of the building. Mr. Wanush pointed
out that any storage of materials such as wax and polishes must
be done in compliance with the Fire Code.
Mr. Draper inquired about parking facilities for people who
might be attending displays. Mr. Mausolf stated that the lot
between South Acoma Street and South Bannock Street, West Floyd
Avenue and West Girard Avenue, which is owned by the City of
Englewood but is leased by Ambrose, would be used to provide
parking. He noted that the lease goes with the sale of the
buildings. Mr. Mausolf pointed out that at the maximum, only
42% of the lot is used. He stated that he does plan to donate
the upper level of the building to be used by the various car
clubs in the metro area; he felt this would bring a lot of
people into the Englewood area. He pointed out that the majority
of the car club meetings are conducted on weekends or in ·the
evenings, ther eby eliminating conflicts with use of the parking
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area by the businesses and shoppers. He stated that car
rallys may be held on the lot, but again this would be on
weekends, and he could see no problem with parking. Mr.
Mausolf pointed out that Cinderella City has conducted a
"swap" meeting every year, and that space is becoming an issue
with the shopping center; this meeting may be conducted in
this area, also, but this would have to be worked out with
the managers of the shopping center.
Mr. Draper asked if Mr. Mausolf had discussed his proposal
with other businessmen in the block? Mr. Mausolf stated that
he has talked to Mr. Kaufman, but no other businessmen.
Williams moved:
Parker seconded: The Planning Commission approves the use of
the building at 3315 South Broadway for an
antique, classic and special interest automobile museum/showroom,
from which the sale of cars may take place, under the provisions
of §22.4-10b(l07). The Commission finds the use to be similar
to other uses permitted in the B-1 Zone District for the following
reasons:
a. As to the proposed museum:
§22.4-10b(3) Any use intended to provide amusement or
entertainment on payment of a fee or admission charge;
b. As to the display and sales:
§22.4-10b(8) Auto Sales or repair, but no commercial
wrecking, dismantling or junk yards. Any auto repair
shop shall be an accessory use to an auto sales use,
and used car lots are permitted when used in conjunction
with and as an integral part of a new car establishment;
provided, however, the used car lot shall be subject to
the requirements as outlined in the Supplementary Regula-
tions;
c. §22.4-10b(l3) Bicycle stores;
d. §22.4-10b(l4) Boat stores;
e. §22.4-10b(66) Motorcycle stores.
2. The use would not be objectionable to nearby property by
reason of odor, dust, fumes, gas, noise, radiation, heat,
glare or vibration, nor would it be hazardous to the health
and property of the surrounding areas through danger of
fire or explosion.
The Commission does recommend that the following conditions
be placed on the conduct of this business in the B-1 Zone Dis-
trict in the 3300 block of South Broadway:
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1 0 There shall be compliance with applicable sections of the
Fire Code and Building Code;
2 0 Vehicular access to the building shall be from the South
Acoma Street side, not from South Broadway;
3 0 Automobiles shall not be displayed, serviced or stored
outside of the buildings;
40 Any repairs or maintenance shall be limited to minor
mechanical adjustments and the cleaning and polishing of
those antique, classic or special-interest automobiles
displayed in the museum or showroom, and shall not in-
clude:
a 0 rebuilding or overhauling of engines or transmissions;
b 0 repair of automobile bodies;
c. painting or welding;
d. reupholstering;
e. tire recapping;
f o steam cleaning of automobiles or motors;
g 0 automobile dismantling or collision repairo
AYES: Parker, Pierson, Smith, Tanguma, Williams, Draper,
Lathrop, McClintock
NAYS: None
The motion carriedo
Mr. Mausolf expressed his appreciation to the members of the
Commission, stating that he felt this would be an asset to
the business community and to the City as a whole.
IV 0 PUBLIC FORUM
There was no one present to address the Commission.
V. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mr o Wanush presented Commission members with a list of appointees
to the Downtown Development Authority, which appointees were
designated by the City Council at their meeting of October 16,
19780 Discussion ensued.
Mr. Wanush gave a status report on the R.T.D o Transit Center
proposed to be constructed on the parking lot presently under
lease to Mro Ambrose o Mr. Wanush pointed out that the lease
on this land does go with the sale of the property on South
Broadway, and that this may affect Mr. Mausolf's plans for the
propertyo Mro Wanush discussed the fact that there have been
several meetings with R.ToD. representatives regarding the
placement of the Transit Center, and that several options have
been discussedo One of these options is along the western side
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of the property along South Bannock Street. Another option
was to locate the transit center along the south end of the
block along West Girard Avenue. Mr. Wanush stated that there
has been considerable discussion about a pedestrian-way along
West · Girard Avenue --something to tie the Cinderella City area
with the Broadway area. If the Transit Center were to be lo-
cated along Girard Avenue, an impetus would be provided for
further improvement along that street. However, there was a
question as to whether there would be sufficient space to
maneuver the buses properly if this location were selected,
and businessmen along South Broadway were anxious to keep as
much parking close to Broadway as possible. For these reasons,
the north/south orientation along South Bannock Street appears
to be the option that has been chosen. This location is much
better traffic-wise, because buses will be able to circulate
north to south. The buses will pull up to a platform to load
and unload, which platform will be entirely roofed-over. There
will be enclosed areas of a transparent material which can be
used by passengers waiting for a bus and vending machines may
be located in these particular areas. There will be doors to
enclose these areas during the .winter, which doors will be re-
moved in the summer months. There Will be adequate decorative
lighting and the area wiil be landscaped. R.T.D. will maintain
the Transit Center. The initial proposal will encompass an
area of 44,500 square feet in the existing parking lot. Mr.
Wanush pointed out that an area 125' x 125' in the southwest
corner of the block is not under lease to Mr. Ambrose, which
area is included in the 44,500 sq. ft. figure. This results
in a net loss of 27,000 sq. ft. of parking space which is
covered by the lease. Mr. Wanush stated that there have been
preliminary discussions with Mr. Ambrose and Mr. Mausolf, and
there will be further discussions with these gentlemen. Mr.
Wanush stated that the plans indicate that the transit center
will be within the west 100 feet of the block adjacent to South
Bannock Street. There is one option to move it closer to the
curb line, and another option to close South Acoma Street and
use that area for parking. He pointed out that if South Acoma
Street is closed, exit area for the former First National Bank
building must be assured, and proper loading zones must be
provided. Mr. Wanush stated that traffic counts taken in the
3300 block of South Acoma Street indicate that 75% of the cars
using that block go into the parking lot, demonstrating that
South Acoma Street is not used primarily as a "through street".
The matter of access on South Bannock Street was discussed,
and Mr. Wanush pointed out that the possibility of designating
one lane on South Bannock Street as northbound has been con-
sidered. He pointed out that there would be no effect on the
Continental National Bank if this were to be done. The Bank
is, in fact, considering making the access to their drive-in
windows from South Cherokee Street rather than from South Bannock
Street.
Mr. Williams asked if there would be a legal aspect for damages
as a result of R.T.D. taking a part of the property that is
under lease? Mr. Wanush stated that the City is in the process
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of getting an appraisal on this piece of land vs. the value
of the remaining piece of land. He stated that most likely
there would be some damages, and felt that the City is in the
process of negotiating the price.
Mr. Draper asked who would control maintenance of the site:
would it be maintained to the satisfaction of R.T.D., or to
the satisfaction of the City? Mr. Wanush stated that he would
say R.T.D., but pointed out that discussions have not gotten
down to that detail at this point.
Mr. Lathrop asked what provisions are made to protect passengers
during bad weather? Mr. Wanush repeated that the entire transit
center would be roofed-over. and that there will be doors in the
winter-time. He stated that he was not sure about a heating
system in the winter-time. Mr. Lathrop stated that he felt
that people might wait as long as 20 minutes or more between
buses, and they will need shelter and warmth during bad weather.
Mr. Wanush stated that R .T.D. will hold public hearings on the
transit center in January. Following the hearings, a recommenda-
tion will be sent to the Department of Transportation and it
will be four to six months before R.T.D. will know whether or
not it has been funded. Once the funding is assured, they
will hire a staff to do the detailed design work. A brief
discussion ensued.
Mr. Wanush stated that he has discussed the traffic problem be-
tween Floyd and Dartmouth and between Broadway and Santa Fe
with the Engineering Services Department and they are attempting
to gather all the previous studies done on this area in the
past. They would hope to have something for presentation at
the next meeting.
Mr. Wanush stated that City Council did approve the Planning
Commission recommendation on the 1979-1980 State Highway Work
Program at their meeting of October 16, 1978. He stated that
he had attended a Public Hearing before the County Commissioners
on this matter on October 16th.
VI. COMMISSION'S CHOICE.
Mr. Draper asked if any member of the Commission had anything
they wished to discuss.
Mrs. Pierson suggested that inasmuch as the full membership is
present, that a Chairman be elected.
Mr. Tanguma nominated Ed Draper as Chairman of the Commission.
Williams moved:
Tanguma seconded: The Commission unanimously elect Mr. Draper
as Chairman.
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Mr. Smith questioned that this motion is in order, inasmuch as
there had been no request for further nominations. Mr. Draper
agreed and ruled the motion out of order.
Mr. Parker nominated Marten Lathrop as Chairman.
Mr. Draper asked if there were further nominations?
Parker moved:
Tanguma seconded: The nominations be closed.
AYES: Smith, Tanguma, Williams, Draper, Lathrop, McClintock,
Parker, Pierson
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Mr. Draper was elected Chairman of the Commission by written
ballot.
Mr. Draper then called for nominations for Vice-Chairman.
Mr. Williams nominated Mr. Tanguma for Vice-Chairman.
Mr. Smith nominated Marten Lathrop as Vice-Chairman.
Pierson moved:
Smith seconded: The nominations be closed.
AYES: Tanguma, Williams, Draper, Lathrop, McClintock, Parker,
Pierson, Smith
NAYS: None
The motion carried.
Mr. Tanguma was elected Vice-chairman of the Commission by
written ballot.
Mrs. Pierson noted that at the last meeting, there was considerable
discussion but no conclusions reached on the matter of attendance
by members. She stated that it appears that most members have
missed from three to six meetings, and that two members have
missed 50% of the meetings. She stated that the members who
attend so irregularly cannot keep abreast of the matters before
the Commission. She suggested that the staff be requested to
draft a formal procedure for consideration by the Commission
regarding attendance by Commission members. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Smith asked what definition of attendance requirements Mrs.
Pierson was considering; attendance of regularly scheduled
meetings, or would it include special meetings? He stated that
he felt very careful thought should be given to the definition
of attendance "requirements". He stated that a person may not
attend a meeting for several reasons, including the fact that
the individual may be just too busy to do so, or it could in-
dicate a lack of interest on the part of that individual in the
program of a particular commission meeting.
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Mrs 0 Pierson stated that she felt it should include all meetings
we have regularly scheduled o
Mr. Parker pointed out that Councilmen are actually overloadal
with meetings; they serve on the City Council and on several
boards and commissions in additiono He agreed that members of
the Commission who are not Council representatives should make
every effort to be in attendance most of the time.
Mr. Williams stated that he felt this matter can be handled
in-house ; that each member need only look at themselves and
realize there has been a gr ea t deal of absenteeism. Discussion
ensued. Mrs. Pierson stated th a t she has been on the Commission
nearly four years, and has never seen absenteeism to the degree
that has been shown this year on this Commission.
Mr. Tanguma stated that he felt it is important that regular
meetings be considered differently than special meeting attendance.
Mr. Smith stated that the matter of attendance has been discussed
at the City Council level. Mr . Smith stated that he felt the
matter of attendance should be looked into, and that there should
be some way to trace an individual's attendance. He stated that
he felt if there was a continuous absence by an individual that
perhaps that individual should consider the fact he cannot serve
on that particular board or commission, and should get off o
Discussion ensued.
Mrs. Pierson acknowledged that there should be some provisions
made for sickness and other excuseable absenceso She further
agreed that there was merit in considering the regular meetings
separate and apart from special meetings. Mrso Pierson further
suggested that the Commission members be given two weeks notice
on all special meetings.
Mr. Parker stated that he felt the issue is unimportant; that
the City Council members will be in attendance at the Planning
Commission meetings when they can, and every one else should
make every effort for an improved attendance o Discussion en-
sued.
Mr . Smith stated that he felt the crux of the issue is the
matter of "habitual absences", and what the Commission determines
is "habitual absence." No formal decision was made on the
matter of attendance requirements.
T he meeting adjourned at 8:15 P.M.
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