HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-01-17 PZC MINUTESCITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
• January 17, 1978
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 7:05 P.M. by Chairman Judith Pierson.
Members present: Owens, Parker, Pierson, Smith, Tanguma,
Williams, Draper, Lathrop
Wanush, Ex-officio
Members absent: Wade
Also present: Assistant Director Romans; Associate Planner
Steve House.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Mrs. Pierson stated that Minutes of December 20, 1977, and
December 27, 1977, were to be considered for approval.
Tanguma moved:
Owens seconded: The Minutes of December 20, 1977, be approved
as written.
AYES: Parker, Pierson, Smith, Tanguma, Williams, Draper,
Lathrop, Owens
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Wade
The motion carried.
Parker moved:
Tanguma seconded: The Minutes of December 27, 1977, be approved
as written.
AYES: Smith, Tanguma, Williams, Draper, Parker
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Pierson, Lathrop, Owens
ABSENT: Wade
The motion carried.
III. T.W. ANDERSON & CO.
Off-Street Parking Plan
CASE #1-78
Mrs. Pierson asked that the staff present the case before the
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Mrs. Romans stated that §22.5-5g of the Comprehensive Zoning
Ordinance requires that any parking lot for 50 or more cars
be approved by the Planning Commission. Mr. T. W. Anderson •
has proposed to construct a shoppette on the south 220 feet
of a block bounded by U.S. 285, South Jason Street, West Ithaca
Avenue, and South Huron Street. The Comprehensive Zoning
Ordinance would require 54 off-street parking spaces for the
development, but the applicant has proposed a 67 space parking
lot. Mrs. Romans asked that the staff report be made a part
of the record of this case.
Mrs. Romans stated that the staff feels there is no choice but
to approve the proposed parking lot layout, and has recommended
approval with some conditions. Mrs. Romans stated that there
is a utility easement which runs through the vacated alley,
and if it becomes necessary to relocate the poles owned by
Mountain Bell, they would have to be moved at the applicant's
expense. It is recommended that no curb cut exceed 36 feet in
width at the curb line, and the applicant would be required to
make repairs and replacement to curb, gutters and sidewalks to
the City's specifications.
Mrs. Romans stated that the staff has made the assumption,
based on the letter from the City Council to the State Highway
Department and the Denver Regional Council of Governments, that
U.S. 285 and West Ithaca Avenue would be developed as a one-way
couplet. It is very probable that if the transition is made
east of the underpass that this property would be involved in
the transition. Until the City or State is in a position to
acquire the subject property, the staff i's of the opinion that
the property owner cannot be denied the use of the land. The
staff does recommend that the Commission write to City Council
and notify them of the proposed development, and suggest that
the Highway Department be urged to design the one-way couplet
so that the City will know what property is actually involved.
Mrs. Romans stated that the staff has prepared a draft of such
a letter for the consideration of the Commission.
Mrs. Romans stated that Mr. Anderson is represented at the
meeting by a representative of Miles Lantz Architectural firm..
Mr. Boggio
Miles Lantz Architects -stated that their proposed parking
plans show two 46 foot curb cuts,
which are in conflict with the maximum 36 foot cut proposed
by the staff. Mr. Boggio stated that these curb cuts could
be reduced to 36 feet if necessary. He stated that they are
in contact with the utility companies; the proposed building
encroaches two feet into the easement. They can encroach on
the easement if they clear the existing lines by a minimum of
six feet, which they do. He stated that he did not feel this
would present any problem.
Mr. Smith asked if Mr. Boggio was aware of the proposed one-
way couplet that has been proposed on U.S. 285 and Ithaca •
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Avenue? Mr. Boggio stated that he is aware of the prop o s al,
but that they "have no choice but to do this proposed parking
layout and shoppette-." Mr. Boggio stated that discussion on
the proposed one-way couplet has been "going on over a year",
and if the couplet is approved, "they will just have to purchase
the property from Mr. Anderson." Mr. Boggio stated that it is
the developer's hope that if the couplet goes through, it will
take only a corner of the off-street parking area and not the
entire development. Mr. Boggio stated that they had revised
the plans upon being informed of the proposed one-way couplet;
the buildings had originally been proposed on the Ithaca Avenue
frontage and they have now relocated the proposed buildings to
the north.
Mrs. Pierson asked when the applicant would propose to begin
construction on the proposed shoppette? Mr. Boggio stated
they hoped to begin construction within three months time;
the construction drawings are approximately half done.
Mr. Parker stated that in driving by the site to view it, he
didn't think the one-way couplet transition would affect the
buildings. Mr. Wanush stated that he felt this would be
impossible to determine at this point in time. There are no
designs on the proposed couplet and it would be difficult to
say whether or not the site would be affected. Mr. Wanush
stated that the staff feels that the possibility the site will
be affected by the one-way couplet must be considered, but there
is no basis for denying the approval at this time because of
the lack of design for the couplet.
Mrs. Pierson asked if she was correct in understanding that
the proposed use could be constructed and would not be before
the Commission if there were less than 50 off-street parking
spaces in the plan? Mr. Wanush stated that this is correct.
Mr. Boggio stated that he has been in contact with the State
Highway Department regarding the one-way couplet. He said
that he found that they "haven't sat down at the drawing board
on this", and are at least two years away from implementation.
He was told that the Highway Department would try t o work
around existing buildings as much as possible if it was deter-
mined the transition would extend onto the subject property.
Mr. Boggio stated that by setting their proposed buildings
back from West Ithaca Avenue, "we gave them a piece of property
to work with." He stated that the applicant would not want
to see the buildings demolished after only two or three year~
Mr. Smith stated that he understood throughout the discussions
on the one-way couplet that the City had a 60 foot rig ht-of-way.
Mrs. Romans stated that the City does have a 60 foot right-of-
way on West Ithaca Avenue, but not for the transition from
U.S. 285 to Ithaca. Mr. Wanush cautioned that more than the
60 foot right-of-way may be required on West Ithaca Avenue,
also, to carry the projected traffic safely.
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Mrs. Pierson asked if the Commission could require, as a con-
dition to approval, that the landscaping be installed as shown
on the proposed parking layout? Mr. Wanush stated that if
the parking plan were approved, and it includes the landscaping,
he would say that the Commission could require the landscaping
as shown on the approved plan. Mr. Boggio stated that the de-
velopers "intend to do everything shown on the plans in terms
of landscaping."
Parker moved:
Draper seconded: The Planning Commission approve the off-street
parking plan submitted by T. W. Anderson for
the following described property: The south 20 feet of Lot 8,
Lots 9 thru 24, inclusive, and the south 20 feet of Lot 25,
Block 6, Englewood Subdivision, Arapahoe County, Colorado.
This approval is subject to the following conditions;
1. If required to do so by Mountain Bell, the developer must
relocate the existing telephone service lines at his ex-
pense.
2. No cu+b cut shall be more than 36 feet at the curb line.
3. The developer must make the following repairs or replace-
ments:
a. Replace any existing curb cuts that are not part
of the entrance/exit plan with six-inch vertical
curb and gutter.
b. Replace any existing sidewalk that does not conform
to City specifications at the time of development.
c. Repair the existing curb and gutter at the radius of
South Jason Street and West Ithaca Avenue.
4. Landscaping of the parking lot shall be implemented as
shown on the approved parking plan dated December 15, 1977.
Discussion ensued. Mr. Tanguma stated that in looking at the
site and the off-street parking la yo ut, it would appear that to
get a good transition from U.S. 285 to West Ithaca Avenue, it
wouLi 0r~:.1 require a }!or-tion of the corner of the lot. Ht:: sug-
gested if the structure were moved back to Ithaca the chances
of the Highway Department taking the building "would be nil."
He stated that he didn't think the transition could be a sharp
turn, but rather a "wide, sweeping" transition.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that we don't know what the design
plan of the. transition is yet, and that it is much more likely
that the State Highway Department will require the entire site
than just a small corner.
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Mr. OWens stated that the problem :is that the staff and Commission
are "guessing what is going to happen" as far as the transition
and design plans are concerned. He stated that as far as he
could see, the Commission would just have to approve the off-
street plan as it is presented, and deal with the matter of
the one-way couplet transition later on. Further discussion
ensued.
Mr. Smith stated that Council has recommended to the Council
of Governments and to the Highway Department that U.S. 285
and West Ithaca Avenue be considered as a one-way couplet;
but right now everything is speculative as to what will happen.
The State Highway Department will probably look at the entire
interchange if they are going to redo it, and if the entire
site is taken for the transition, "Mr. Anderson will make money."
Mr. Wanush stated that there are some preliminary plans being
drawn on South Santa Fe Drive. He stated he understood that
the State is attempting to design a new interchange for the
Santa Fe/U.S. 285 interchange to the west of the existing move-
ment, but this is part of the Santa Fe Drive improvement. Any
turn from U.S. 285 would most likely be to the east of the
underpass. Mr. Wanush stated that COG is the regional planning
agency for transportation funds. T«ere is estimated to be
approximately $60,000,000 in funds remaining after the improve-
ments to South Santa Fe Drive, Kipling and County Line Road
from the I-470 transfer of funds, and local jurisdictions are
being asked to submit projects for the use of the remaining
$60,000,000. Mr. Wanush stated that he felt certain the one-
way couplet would be the City's number one priority for these
funds.
Further discussion ensued.
The vote was called on the motion:
AYES: Smith, Tanguma, Draper, Lathrop, Owens, Parker, Pierson
NAYS: Williams
ABSENT: Wade
The motion carried.
IV. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mr. Wanush stated that the staff has prepared a draft letter
for the consideration of the Commission regarding the proposed
development by Mr. T. W. Anderson. The proposed letter would
request that City Council ask that the design for the U.S. 285-
West Ithaca Avenue one-way couplet be accomplished with all
due haste. Copies of the letter were presented to the Com-
mission for their consideration.
Don Smith suggested that possibly the staff could check with
the City Attorney on the possibility of a short-term moratorium
on development along the area of the couplet and transition.
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This short-term postponement of development could give an
opportunity to get something back from DRCOG and the State
Highway Department on the design. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Williams stated that he felt the Commission's approval of
the proposed parking plan was contrary to what the Commission
and City Council have determined is needed for the movement
of traffic. He noted that letters have been written to the
State Highway Department and the Council of Governments on the
one-way couplet of U.S. 285 and West Ithaca Avenue; he felt
there should have been further consideration before the request
from Mr. Anderson was approvedo
Mr. Wanush noted that there were other areas in town where
similar activity is going on, but property owners can build
whatever they want; he stated there is no legal way to prevent
development without purchasing the lando
Mro Draper stated that he felt the City could be subject to
suit if the property owner were to be denied the use of his
land without a concrete basis for doing so·o
Mr. Smith stated that he felt there was no legal way the Com-
mission could not approve the proposed parking plano He stated
that he did feel that a mo »atorium could be imposed on future
developments.
Mro Wanush stated that he felt 1he idea of a moratorium was a
good suggestion, and suggested that a paragraph suggesting a
moratorium could be added to the suggested letter, or one of
the Councilmen on the Commission could bring the matter up at
the next City Council meetingo Mr. Wanush stated that the
moratorium was not a solution to the problem, but he felt it
would be good to have one of the Councilmen bring it up to
the entire Council for considerationo Discussion ensued.
Tanguma moved:
Smith seconded: The following letter be sent to the City
Council.
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City of Englewood
January 17, 1978
The Honorable James L. Taylor, Mayor
Members of the Englewood City Council
3400 South Elati Street
Englewood, Colorado 80110
Gentlemen:
3400 S. Elati Street
Englewood, Colorado 8011 o
Phone (303) 761-1140
Mr. T. W. Anderson has submitted plans to the Department of
Community Development to construct a shoppette on the southern
portion of the block bounded by U.S. 285, South Inca Street,
West Ithaca Avenue and South Jason Street. Because §22.5-5g
of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance requires Planning Com-
mission approval of any parking area which has fifty (50) or
more spaces, Mr. Anderson's plan has been referred to the
Commission. The Plan appears to be in order and it would
seem that the Commission has no alternative but to approve
Mr. Anderson's application.
The Planning Commission is aware that on August 15, 1977, the
City Council voted to notify the State Highway Department that
the members favor the concept of a one-way couplet between
South Broadway and South Santa Fe Drive on the present align-
ment of U.S. 285 and West Ithaca Avenue. Also, on September
16, 1977, a letter was sent over Mayor Taylor's signature to
Mr. Don DeDecker, Chairman of DRCOG, requesting that DRCOG
initiate whatever action is necessary to approve the use of
I-470 transfer funds for the modification of the U.S. 285 -
South Broadway interchange and for the construction of the
one-way couplet approved on August 15, 1977.· Mr. Anderson's
plans are in conflict with this action.
The Commission understands that the design of the couplet is
not complete, but it is assumed that all or a portion of the
land on which Mr. Anderson proposes to construct the shoppette
will be required for the transition of the eastbound traffic
from U.S. 285 to West Ithaca Avenue. Indeed, a letter from
the District VI Engineer's office asks that approval not be
given to Mr. Anderson's request until plans have been developed
for the couplet pursuant to the City Council's formal request~
The Commission is concerned, however, that such action would
not be legal.
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The Honorable James L. Taylor, Mayor
Members of the Englewood City Council
January 17, 1978
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The Planning Commission recognizes the inconsistency between
Mr. Anderson's plans and the City's plans to alleviate the
traffic congestion in the vicinity of Cinderella City and are
of the opinion that the City Council should be made aware of
this conflict. The Commission urges the Council to request
that the design of the one-way couplet and the U.S. 285/Santa
Fe and U.S. 285/Broadway interchanges be drawn as soon as
possible, and that any land required for the construction of
the couplet be acquired before new development takes place
which will further increase the cost of the project.
Judith Beggs Pierson, Chairman
City Planning & Zoning Commission
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Further discussion ensued. Mr. Boggio noted that the proposed
buildings will be solar heated; the pay-back period on something
like that is approximately 12 years. If the structure were to
be built and torn down within three years, it would be a loss
to the developer. He stated they would prefer that the property
be taken for the transition now before the buildings were con-
structed. Mr. Boggio stated again that he had done some research
into the possibile .transition for the one-way couplet with the
State Highway Department, and no plans have been drawn for the
transition, and the individual he conferred with at the Highway
Department was not sure that the one-way couplet and transition
was funded or would be funded.
Mr. Wanush stated that the City of Englewood wi l l apply for a
portion of the $60,000,000 remaining of the I-470 transfer
funds, and that improvement of U.S. 285 will be Englewood's
number one priority; the City will also request improvements
to other traffic arteries such as West Quincy Avenue, South
Clarkson Street and West Floyd Avenue.
The vote on the motion was called:
AYES: Tanguma, Williams, Draper, Lathrop, Owens, Parker,
Pierson, Smith
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Wade
The motion carried.
Mr. Wanush stated that the American Society of Planning
Officials will hold its annual meeting in Indianapolis April
29th thru May 4th. There are funds budgeted for one Commission
member and one staff member to attend this meeting. He sug-
gested that the Commission might want to begin de liber a t ion s
on the representation of the Commission at this meet ing.
Mr. Wanush stated that a special meeting of the Commission has
been scheduled for January 24th, 7:00 P.M., for t he continuation
of the Public Hearing on the Rex Garrett rezoning r equest.
Mr. Wanush stated that he hoped to present the Commission wi1h
a tentative schedule for the review of the Comprehensive Plan
at that same meeting.
VI. COMMISSION'S CHOICE.
There was nothing brought up for discussion under Commission's
Choice.
The meeting adjourned at 8:00 P.M •
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ecording Sec tary
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MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION OR
RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
DATE: January 17, 1978
SUBJECT: Off-Street Parking Plan
RECOMMENDATION:
Parker moved:
Draper seconded: The Planning Commission approve the aff-
street parking plan submitted by T. W.
Anderson for the following described property: The south
20 feet of Lot 8, Lots 9 thru 24, inclusive, and the south
20 feet of Lot 25, Block 6, Englewood Subdivision, Arapahoe
County, Colorado.
This approval is subject to the following conditions:
1. If required to do so by Mountain Bell, the developer must
relocate the existing telephone service lines at his ex-
pense.
2. No curb cut shall be more than 36 feet at the curb line.
3. The developer must make the following repairs or replace-
ments:
a. Replace any existing curb cuts that are not part
of the entrance/exit plan with six-inch vertical
curb and gutter.
b. Replace any existing sidewalk that does not conform
to City specifications at the time of development.
c. Repair the existing curb and gutter at the radius of
South Jason Street and West Ithaca Avenue.
4. Landscaping of the parking lot shall be implemented as
shown on the approved parking plan dated December 15, 1977.
AYES:
NAYS :
ABSENT:
Smith, Tanguma, Draper, Lathrop, Owens, Parker, Pierson
w-·"' .. J ~.r.:s
Wade
The motion carried.
By Order of the City Planning
and Zoning Commission.
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