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CITY OF ENGELWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
February 5, 1985
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called
to order at 7:00 P. M. by Chairman McBrayer.
Members present: Venard, Allen, Barbre, Carson, McBrayer, Stoel, Beier
Members absent: Magnuson
Also present: D. A. Romans, Assistant Director of Community Development
Susan T. King, Senior Planner
Nancy Reid, Assistant City Attorney
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
January 22, 1985
Chairman McBrayer stated that the Minutes of January 22 were to be con-
sidered for approval.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Minutes of January 22, 1985 be approved as written.
Mr. Venard noted a typographical error on Page 6.
The vote was called on the motion to approve the minutes, as amended on
Page 6.
AYES: Barbre, Carson, Stoel, Venard
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Allen, McBrayer, Beier
ABSENT: Magnuson
The motion carried.
III. FINDINGS OF FACT
Camden Place One Planned Development
CASE #1-85
Chairman McBrayer stated that the Findings of Fact on Case #1-85, the
Camden Place One Planned Development, were to be considered for approval.
Carson moved:
Barbre seconded: The Planning Commission approve the Findings of Fact
for Case #1-85, Camden Place One Planned Development.
AYES: Barbre, Carson, Stoel, Venard, Allen
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: McBrayer, Beier
ABSENT: Magnuson
The motion carried.
IV. FINDINGS OF FACT
3986 South Broadway
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CASE #2-85
Chairman McBrayer stated that the Findings of Fact on Case #2-85 were
to be considered for approval.
Stoel moved:
Carson seconded: The Findings of Fact on Case #2-85, a Conditional Use
at 3986 South Broadway, be approved as written.
AYES: Carson, Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: McBrayer, Beier
ABSENT: Magnuson
The motion carried.
V. CONDITIONAL USE
The Shine Factory
2749 South Broadway
Carson moved:
CASE #3-85
Venard seconded: The Public Hearing on the proposed Conditional Use at
2749 South Broadway, Case #3-85, be opened.
Mr. Magnuson entered the meeting while Mr. Carson was making the motion.
AYES: McBrayer, Stoel, Beier, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Carson, Magnuson
NAYS: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
The motion carried.
Mr. McBrayer stated that he is in receipt of the notification given in
the official City Newspaper on January 16, 1985, and also has the Certi-
fication of Posting; both of these documents are to be made a part of the
record of this Hearing. Mr. McBrayer also asked that the staff report be
made a part of the record.
Mr. McBrayer asked if the Commission members had any questions regarding
the staff report.
Mr. Carson asked about the 5/8" water line that is mentioned in the staff
report. Ms. King stated that this water line is serving the structure at
the present time.
Ms. King stated that the applicant has furnished to the Fire Department
the technical data requested on the storage of fluids and materials used
in the processing of the automobiles. There will be no problem with the
storage of the flammable liquids, and the Fire Department has indicated
that the building will not have to be sprinklered. This would negate
the necessity for including Condition #2.
Mr. McBrayer outlined the procedure to be followed in the course of the
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Hearing, and noted that the Commission is the determining body in matters
of Conditional Uses. The Commission may approve the request as submitted,
may approve the request with conditions, or may refer the request back to
the applicant.
Mr. Allen asked the use of the building previously. Mr. McBrayer stated
that it was used as a furniture store for a number of years, and recently
was used as the Mountain Miser outlet.
Mr. McBrayer asked that the applicants come forward and be sworn in.
Mr. Burch Winder
2672 South Jackson Street -was sworn in, and testified that he is the
Vice-President of the Shine Factory.
Mr. Carson asked Mr. Winder if he had read the staff report. Mr. Winder
replied in the affirmative. Mr. Carson asked if Mr. Winder would amend
his application to include the three recommendations from the staff which
are cited in the staff report. Mr. Winder stated that he would not, and
wanted to discuss the issue of providing off-street parking on-site. Mr.
Winder stated that this is a unique automotive business; there would be a
limited number of vehicles brought to the site for reconditioning and re-
finishing. These vehicles would be delivered in the morning, and picked
up in the evening; the process is approximately a six-hour process, and
would not result in any long-term storage of vehicles on the premises.
Mr. Winder noted that the building is oversized for their actual needs,
and felt that a number of the vehicles could be garaged within the building
after completion. Mr. Winder estimated there is sufficient space within
the structure for 25 to 30 vehicles. Mr. Winder stated that he did not
feel it would be necessary to park any vehicles outside the building, and
does not feel it necessary that additional off-street parking be provided.
Mr. Winder acknowledged that they (the applicants) did state that addi-
tional parking would be pursued, and did discuss this issue with the parent
company. Based on the experience of 45 such operations throughout Canada
and the United States, they were told that the space available within the
building is adequate for parking and the applicants do not want to have to
provide additional off-street parking. Mr. Winder emphasized that it is
the opinion of the applicant that the parking spaces within the building,
in addition to the two off-street spaces at the exterior rear of the building,
are adequate for their needs.
Mr. Winder discussed Condition #2, and pointed out that they have satisfied
the concerns of the Fire Department on the storage of flammable liquids and
solvents.
Mr. Winder stated that Condition #3 will be pursued by the applicant.
Mr. Carson asked if it was the intent of the applicant that they would in-
clude in their application and comply with, Conditions #2 and #3 only.
Mr. Winder stated that the applicants do not want to furnish 10 additional
parking spaces; they do not feel this Condition #1 is necessary or appropriate.
Mr. Allen asked if there was any additional space where additional off-
street parking could be provided. Mr. Winder stated that the previous
owners of the building had an informal agreement with Olinger's Mortuary
that they could park in the mortuary parking lot except during the time
of funeral services. He has also talked to Olinger's about a similar
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arrangement for the Shine Factory; while Olinger's has indicated they
are willing to continue this "informal" arrangement, they will not put
anything in writing. There is also a vacant lot across the street in
the south half of the block; Mr. Winder expressed concern over security
of the vehicles, and the dangers inherent in employees having to take
vehicles to this lot, and then •cross Broadway on foot.
Mr. Allen asked how many vehicles per day the Shine Factory could do.
Mr. Winder estimated six to eight vehicles per day would be done.
Mr. McBrayer discussed the possibility of confirming the agreement with
Olinger's for use of their parking facilities. Mr. Winder reiterated
that Olinger's does not want to make a written conunitment on this; they
will maintain the agreement on an informal basis, but will not give a
letter regarding use of their parking area by the Shine Factory.
Mr. McBrayer asked Mrs. Romans how strongly the staff feels on the need
for off-street parking. Mrs. Romans stated that all businesses should
provide off-street parking for their own employees; she noted that it
would place an additional burden on Broadway to expect the employees to
park on the street. Mrs. Romans emphasized that businesses should pro-
vide off-street parking for the employees at the very least.
Don Estey
385 Gilpin Street -was sworn in, and testified that he is the president
of the Shine Factory. Mr. Estey further discussed
the process used on the vehicles, and noted that they have franchises
operating in Canada and the United States. This process is a "one-of-
a-kind", and is guaranteed in writing for the life of the vehicle. Mr.
Estey stated that the parking situation has been discussed at some length,
and that they are concerned that they have to provide off-street parking
when they have a larger building than they actually need, and can use
some of the interior for parking spaces for employees as well as customers.
Mr. Estey stated that this particular operation will be the headquarters
for the franchise program in Colorado, and will be a training center in
Colorado. Mr. Estey described the type of operation the Shine Factory
wants to have on the site --uniformed employees, a clean, white, aspect
where women are comfortable in coming to drop off vehicles or to pick up
vehicles.
Mr. Estey urged the Conunission to give great consideration to the require-
ment of additional off-street parking; if the Shine Factory does indeed
have to provide additional off-street parking, they "may have to look for
another site."
Mr. Allen asked what would happen if a back-log of vehicles occurs;
where will these vehicles be stored, and where would the employees park
if the vehicles are stored within the building. Mr. Estey stated that
the employees could work at night; the hours will be flexible, but the
customers will expect to have the vehicle completed within one day's
time. Mr. Estey stated that this process is not cheap, and will cost
approximately $200 per vehicle. Automobile dealers will also be
bringing vehicles to them for this process. Mr. Estey stated that
Shine Factory representatives have been trying to find something in
this general area with a structure of the size they need, but cannot
find anything to meet their needs closer than the subject site on South
Broadway.
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Mr. McBrayer asked if employee parking could be "designated" within the
structure by painting on the floor; he cautioned against placing a greater
parking burden on Broadway. Mr. Estey stated that he saw no problem with
designating spaces within the building for the use of the employees pro-
vided it was not rest;:ricted to "only" employee use. Mr. Estey further
expressed concern about a statement in the staff report comparing this
operation to Aamco.
Mr. Beier inquired about the capacity of the building as far as the total
number of cars that could be within the structure. Mr. Estey stated that
they figure on approximately 210 to 300 sq. ft. for a customer's car to
be worked on; he estimated 10 to 15 vehicles, plus the employee vehicles,
could be accommodated in the building.
Mr. Venard noted that Mr. Estey stated that this operation would be the
franchise headquarters in Colorado; he asked if this operation would also
be a point of distribution of the cleaning solvents and polishes to other
points throughout the state. Mr. Estey stated that this would be done
from the home office, and that he is very aware and concerned about the
storage of flammable materials.
Mr. McBrayer asked if Mr. Rod Moser wanted to address the Commission on
this matter. Mr. Moser stated that he did not want to address the Com-
mission, and was present as an observer.
Mrs. Romans cited §22.5-21 e (4) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance,
which section pertains to Commission consideration of Conditional Uses:
"(4) The number of off-street parking spaces shall not be less than the
requirements of Chapter 22.5-5 of this Ordinance." Mrs. Romans discussed
the amendment of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, and the process the
staff used to arrive at the number of off-street parking spaces needed
by the Shine Factory in the absence of specific requirements for this
specific use. Mrs. Romans emphasized that the Conditional Use Ordinance
requires that the parking requirements must be met by any use approved
as a Conditional Use.
Carson moved:
Allen seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #3-85 be closed.
AYES: Magnuson, McBrayer, Stoel, Beier, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Carson
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
The motion carried.
Mr. McBrayer asked that the record reflect that he had asked everyone
present in the audience if they wished to speak to the Commission.
Mr. McBrayer stated that he is inclined to try to make things work for
the applicants; any use of this building will experience a parking short-
age because the building covers the entire site, and most uses will re-
quire more parking than this business will. Mr. McBrayer noted that
there are two off-street spaces existing at the rear of the building now,
and the applicant has agreed to designate spaces within the building for
employee parking.
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Mr. Allen pointed out that the building is larger than the operation
actually calls for, and he would regard the use of the remainder of the
building as "covered parking".
Mr. McBrayer stated that he feels the Shine Factory will be an improvement
to the area, and feels that the Commission does have some assurance that
employee parking will be provided within the building.
Mr. Carson disagreed, and stated that he felt the Commission should abide
by the staff recommendation. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Venard stated that the applicant has stated that they will be willing
to designate a given number of parking spaces within the building, and
that the figure 11 6 11 was mentioned. He pointed out that the Commission
would have no more control over off-street parking on the exterior of the
building than over the parking provided within the building. Mr. Stoel
pointed out that the "site" is the problem; there is no room for off-street
parking on the subject site.
Carson moved: The Planning Commission deny approval of a Conditional Use,
The Shine Factory, at 2749 South Broadway, because the ap-
plicant has refused to amend his application to provide
the required off-street parking spaces.
There was no second to Mr. Carson's motion.
Allen moved:
Stoel seconded: The Planning Commission approve the application of the
Shine Factory as a Conditional Use at 2749 South Broadway,
with the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall provide six parking spaces within
the building; said six spaces shall be designated by
appropriate painting or signage for employee parking.
2. The applicant shall comply with all City Code require-
ments, including the Uniform Fire Code and Uniform
Building Code.
Mr. McBrayer stated that the six off-street parking spaces to be designated
on the interior of the building, plus the two parking spaces on the exterior
of the building, will give a total of eight off-street parking spaces for
this business.
Mr. Allen stated that he feels the proposed Shine Factory is "almost an
ideal use for this building."
Mr. Venard discussed the change in procedure outlined by Mr. Olsen at the
previous meeting; the applicant has to agree to amend his application to
include the proposed conditions.
Assistant City Attorney Reid verified this procedure; if the applicant '
agreed to amend the application, conditions that the staff and/or Com-
mission may have are made a part of the application. If the applicant
refuses to amend the application, this can be grounds for denial. The
applicant does have a right to have the Commission vote on his application
as it was submitted.
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Mr. McBrayer asked the applicant: "Are you willing to amend the application
to delete #1 as written on page 3 of the Staff Report, and to make provision
for six off-street parking spaces on the interior of the building, said
spaces to be designated for employee use; this would be in addition to the
two parking spaces on the exterior of the building. The amendment would
also include Condition #3 as suggested by the staff on Page 3 of the staff
report."
Mr. Estey stated that he would agree to designate the parking spaces in
the building, with the understanding that those parking spaces could be
used for other vehicles if the six employee spaces are not taken up by
actual employee vehicles. Mr. McBrayer stated that employees would have
to be given first option on use of these spaces. Mr. Estey stated that
he would accept these amendments to the application.
The vote was called on the motion to approve:
AYES: Barbre, Be.ier, Magnuson, McBrayer, Stoel, Venard, Allen
NAYS: Carson
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
The motion carried.
VI. PUBLIC FORUM.
Mr. McBrayer noted that the three members of the audience had departed
with the determination of the previous case.
VII. ELECTION OF OFFICERS.
Mr. McBrayer stated that he is not a candidate for re-election to the
position of .Chairman; he thanked the other members of the Commission for
their support while he has been Chairman.
Mr. Allen expressed his appreciation to Mr. McBrayer for his leadership
during his service as Chairman.
Mr . McBrayer called for nominations for Chairman.
Mr. Carson nominated Mr. Gerry Venard as Chairman of the Commission.
No further names were placed in nomination.
Carson moved:
Allen se c onded: Nominations be closed, and a unanimous vote be cast for
Mr. Ve nard for Chairman.
AYES: Beier, Carson, Magnuson, McBrayer, Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
The motion carried.
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Mr. Venard assumed the Chair, and thanked the Commission members for
his election as Chairman. Mr. Venard then asked for nominations for
the position of Vice-Chairman.
Mr. Barbre nominated Mr. McBrayer for Vice-Chairman.
No further nominations for Vice-Chairman were made.
Stoel moved:
Carson seconded: Nominations cease, and a unanimous vote be cast for Mr.
McBrayer for Vice-Chairman.
AYES: Carson, Magnuson, McBrayer, Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
The motion carried.
VIII. APA CONVENTION
Montreal, Canada
April 20 -24
The APA Convention will be in Montreal April 20 through the 24th. Mr.
Venard asked members to indicate whether they would like to attend.
Mr. McBrayer indicated his interest in attending, as did Mr. Magnuson.
Budget limitations for Commission members were discussed; Mrs. Romans
stated that the staff requested funds for the attendance of two Com-
mission members, and while she has not seen the 1985 Budget, as approved,
she has been told that there is funding for one Commission member to
attend the Conference. She stated that she would discuss this matter
with Mr. Vargas.
It was the consensus of the Commission that Mr. McBrayer will be the
delegate to the Convention in Montreal; Mr. Magnuson will be the first
alternate and Mr. Venard stated that he would serve as the second alternate.
IX. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mrs. Romans discussed a rezoning referral that has been received from
Arapahoe County for property on West Tufts Avenue at South Beverly Drive.
This is just east of Windermere, and on the south side of Tufts Avenue.
The request encompasses one site, and will leave two single-family resi-
dences facing Tufts Avenue sandwiched in between commercial and industrial
zoning. Mrs. Romans presented Commission members with a small map of the
area; this is part of a larger area that was annexed by the City of
Englewood for a short time several years ago, but was de-annexed by
Court action and not further pursued by the City. Mrs. Romans stated that
it is her feeling that the County should consider rezoning more than just
the one property at this time, and include the two single-family residential
properties in this zoning action. Mrs. Romans also pointed out that addi-
tional right-of-way is needed for West Tufts Avenue, and 20 feet from the
property will be required for that right-of-way. Mrs. Romans read a letter
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that she has written to the County in opposition to the consideration of
this one property, and suggested that perhaps the correspondence should
come from the Chairman of the Commission rather than from staff. Dis-
cussion ensued. It was the consensus of the Connnission that the letter
should be signed by Chairman Venard, and that the content of the letter
was appropriate.
Mrs. Romans discussed the Rules and Procedure Manual for the Planning
Conunission; she stated that she has had the City Attorney's staff review
the Handbook, and they have pointed out some legal points that should
be taken into consideration. Other sections of the Handbook are simply
out-dated, and need to be revised, Mrs. Romans stated that she would
be working with the legal staff to update the Handbook, and will bring
a draft of the Handbook to the Commission as soon as possible.
Mrs. Romans introduced Assistant City Attorney Nancy Reid to members of
the Commission.
The luncheon scheduled for the Commission members with Mr. Olsen on
February 15, was discussed. Mr. Allen and Mr. Beier stated that they
would not be available on February 15 to attend the luncheon.
Mrs. Romans discussed the power of the Commisison to "vary" from standards
and requirements cited in the ordinance, as was done earlier in the meeting
on the Conditional Use case. She suggested that the City Attorney should
address this issue •
Mrs. Reid stated that the Planning Commission does not have the authority
to vary from the requirements and standards cited in the ordinance, and
that the Conditional Use ordinance is "mandatory" and the requirements
set forth in the Zoning Ordinance must be met in considering a Conditional
Use. Mrs. Reid further discussed the "interpretations" that may be made
because an ordinance is v:ague, and cautioned that the "interpretations"
must be made the same way on all cases.
Mr. McBrayer stated that he felt the Commission needed some flexibility;
he noted that the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance amendments are coming
on for Public Hearing on February 20, and this might be considered.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that in the B-1 section of the Ordinance, an ap-
plicant may present a traffic/parking study, and the Community Development
Director and Traffic Engineer may then waive the requirements; this pro-
vision is not contained in the Conditional Use section of the Ordinance.
Discussion ensued.
X. COMMISSION'S CHOICE.
Mr. Venard announced that Assistant City Attorney Nancy Reid was celebrating
her birthday on this date, and presented Mrs. Reid with a birthday card.
The meeting adjourned at 8:20 P. M.
~rtrude G. Welty, 'R~corclini se~ary