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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MAY 7, 1985
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called
to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Venard.
Members present: Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, McBrayer, Stoel
Members absent: Magnuson, Gourdin
Also present: D. A. Romans, Assistant Director of Community Development
S. T. King, Senior Planner
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
April 16, 1985
Chairman Venard stated that the Minutes of April 16, 1985 were to be
considered for approval.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Minutes of April 16, 1985 be approved as written.
AYES: Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Stoel, Venard
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: McBrayer
ABSENT: Magnuson, Gourdin
The motion carried.
III. CENTENNIAL TRADE CENTER II
Subdivision Plat
CASE 119-85
Mr. Venard stated that this matter is a Public Hearing on a preliminary
subdivision plat, and asked for a motion to open the Public Hearing.
Carson moved:
Beier seconded: The Public Hearing on Case 119-85 be opened .
AYES: Barbre, Beier, Carson, McBrayer, Stoel, Venard, Allen
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Magnuson, Gourdin
The motion carried.
Mr. Venard outlined the procedure to be followed in conducting the
Public Hearing. He stated that statements from the applicant and
members of the audience will be taken, and asked that persons speaking
before the Commission come to the podium, and be sworn in. Mr. Venard
asked if the staff had anything to add to the staff report.
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Ms. King stated that Mr. Clark, property owner and applicant is not
present, but has designated Miss Jane Ross as his agent, and Miss Ross
will be making the presentation before the Commission. Ms. King presented
Mr. Venard with a letter from Mr. Clark regarding Miss Ross's designation
as his agent. Mr. Venard read the letter aloud, and asked that it be
made part of the record of the hearing.
Mr. Venard asked that Miss Ross come forward.
Miss Jane Ross was sworn in, and testified that she is acting on behalf
of the applicant. Miss Ross stated that she had nothing further to add
to the information that has been submitted to the Commission.
Mr. Carson asked if Miss Ross and the applicant have read the staff re-
port and the staff recommendations. Are the applicant and Miss Ross
willing to incorporate the staff recommendations into the application.
Miss Ross stated that she and the applicant have read the staff report,
and will amend the plan to incorporate the staff recommendations.
Mr. McBrayer asked the types of businesses that are proposed for the de-
velopment. Miss Ross stated that there will be eight businesses in the
complex, one of which will be leasing approximately one-half of the space;
this business is concerned with manufacture of parts for heart and kidney
machines. One building will belong to the developer, and the remainder
will be leased and/or sold to businesses.
Mr, Venard noted that some problem on drainage had been mentioned in the
staff report. Miss Ross stated the problem is the drainage into the lake;
the City wants the developer to enlarge the detention pond on hj s site to
inhibit the drainage into the lake. Miss Ross stated that plans for the
enlarged detention pond will be submitted to the Department.
Mr. Venard asked if anyone else in the audience wished to speak in favor
of the proposed subdivision plat. No one else spoke in favor of the pro-
posed subdivision. Mr. Venard asked if anyone wished to speak in opposi-
tion to the proposed subdivision. No one spoke in opposition.
Allen moved:
Stoel/Beier seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #9-85 be closed.
Mr. Gourdin entered the meeting.
The vote on the motion was called:
AYES: Beier, Carson, McBrayer, Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre , Gourdin
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Magnuson
The motion carried.
Mr. Venard announced that notices to adjoining property owners were sent
by Certified Mail.
Mr. Venard outlined the courses of action open to the Commission on the
preliminary subdivision plat, and asked the pleasure of the Commission.
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Carson moved:
Stoel seconded:
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The Planning Commission approve the Preliminary Plat of
Centennial Trade Center II; the following four recom-
mendations are to be incorporated in the Final Plat when
it is submitted for Commission review:
1) The fire hydrant location on Sheet 2 of 4 shall be
consistent with the site plan, and fire lanes shall
be posted.
2) The sidewalk along South Clay Street shall be four
feet wide.
3) Paving design shall be to Englewood standards.
4) Detention shall be increased to alleviate the sur-
charge conditions.
AYES: Carson, Gourdin, McBrayer, Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Magnuson
The motion carried.
IV. FINDINGS OF FACT CASE 117-85
Gregg Homes, Inc. Subdivision Waiver
Mr. Venard stated that the Findings of Fact on the Subdivision Waiver ap-
proved for Gregg Homes, Inc. are to be considered for approval.
Barbre moved:
Beier seconded: The findings of Fact on Case #7-85 be approved as written.
AYES: Gourdin, Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: McBrayer
ABSENT: Magnuson
The motion carried.
V. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.
Proposed Amendments
Mrs. ~omans stated that members of the Commission would recall that she
had polle:.d them by telephone to discuss the possibility of setting a hearing
on May 14 to consider amendments to several sections of the Comprehensive
Zoning Ordinance. One of the proposed amendments would concern the regula-
tions in the B-2 Zone District on the automotive sales lots. At the last
Commission meeting on April 16, following a discussion of certain concerns
of the City Council, it was moved by Mr. Stoel that all uses pertaining to
vehicles should be made a Conditional Use in the B-2 Zone District, which
motion was adopted. There were several other issues that arose following
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initial review by the Oity Council of other districts and sections of the
Ordinance, which are proposed to be amended, and it was the opinion of
staff and counsel that a hearing before the Commission should be scheduled
to consider these issues before they were transmitted to City Council.
This public hearing before the Commission has been scheduled for May 14
at 7:00 P.M. in the City Council Chambers. The Commission members were
sent copies of the proposed amendments, and Mrs. Romans asked if the Com-
mission wanted to review the proposed changes point-by-point, or to ask
questions on concerns they may have.
Mr. Gourdin asked why barbers, beauticians and cosmetologists are pro-
hibited from operating from their homes in the R-3 Zone District. Mrs.
Romans stated that this has been a practice for many years, and is primarily
related to health factors; no separate facilities are permitted in a home
occupation, and kitchen faciliites may not be used for the washing of
hair, etc. By putting in the separate sink and facilities to accommodate
the "home occupation", it is getting away from the intent that a home oc-
cupation is incidental to the primary use of the residence, and is be-
coming a "business" --not a home occupation.
Mr. Olsen entered the meeting at 7:20 P.M.
Mr. Beier asked if there were a number of such "home occupations" operating
out of the home. Mrs. Romans stated that there are not, to her knowledge.
Mr. Gourdin stated that cosmetologists are registered by the State Health
Department, and are licensed. If they meet the other criteria for a home
occupation, such as square footage, etc., why can this operation not be
approved as a home occupation in the R-3 Districts, or even in the R-2
or R~l Districts. Mrs. Romans discussed the prohibition of this type
of business as a home occupation.
Mr. Beier asked for clarification of the term "development plan". Mrs.
Romans stated that the requirement of a development plan on some types
of development will give a degree of control on the location of the
structures, parking, access, etc. Mrs. Romans cited difficult situations
that have arisen with large developments wherein no development plan was
required, and the ultimate location of the building is not in the best
interest of the surrounding neighborhood, but because no development plan
was required, the developer could site the building on the lot as he chose.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that a development plan would require a public
hearing before the Commission, which would afford adjoining property
owners an opportunity to view the development plans and voice their
opinions.
Mrs. Romans cited one area where redevelopment may occur; this is in an
area that is currently zoned for single-family, but the redeveloper will
not be interested in single-family redevelopment. Mrs. Romans discussed
the concern expressed by the City Council about rezonings involving single-
family areas, and pointed out that if an application for rezoning is
filed, and specific plans are cited, a development plan would be required.
Following approval of that development plan and its subsequent recording,
the property owner/developer would have to comply with that approved plan.
This would give notice to the adjoining property owners of the specific
type of development or use that is proposed for a subject site and would
give the City Council better control over proposed development.
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Mr. Gourdin asked why mobile home parks were included in the industrial
district as a permitted use. Mrs. Romans stated that until recently,
mobile home parks were not a permitted use in any zone district in Engle-
wood. WHERE, a group of mobile home owners/residents along South Santa
Fe Drive and Dartmouth Avenue, has formed a co-op for the mobile home
park residents in the area. Santa Fe Drive is to be widened, and the
State could not relocate these residents. The residents indicated they
wanted to remain in this area, and asked the City for assistance in im-
proving their mobile home parks. In order to secure financing, they asked
that mobile home parks be made a permitted use in the light industrial dis-
trict, which the Planning Commission recommended to the City Council, and
the City Council ultimately approved.
Mr. Gourdin expressed concern about the high noise levels along Santa Fe
and the industrial area, and the effects this noise level would have on
families and children residing in the mobile home parks. He asked if
the noise level from adjoining businesses can be controlled. Mrs. Romans
stated that the City does have a noise control ordinance, enforced by the
Police Department. This noise control ordinance applies to the entire
City.· Further discussion ensued.
Mr. McBrayer pointed out that this group of people, WHERE, came to the
City and pleaded to remain in this area and for assistance in improving
the mobile home parks. They asked to become a permitted use in the in-
dustrial zone district. The City complied with the wishes of the residents
of the area.
Mr. Venard asked if Mr. Gourdin was aware that sound barriers will be in-
stalled by the State Highway Department. Mr. Gourdin stated that he is
aware of the proposed sound barriers, but pointed out that wooden sound
barriers do not have that much impact on reducing the noise level, and
that the people will not really be protected with a wooden barrier.
Mr. Venard asked for clarification on the proposed change of signage in
the Design Guidelines section. Mrs. Romans stated that this amendment
was devised in an effort to solve some of the problems that have been
experienced in working with the ordinance.
Mr. Stoel stated that at the last meeting, he did make a motion that all
auto-related uses be a Conditional Use in the B-2 Zone District; however,
he is of the opinion that the proposed restrictions will not achieve what
he w~nted, and will drive people out of business. Mr. Stoel stated that
he wanted to see a set of guidelines developed, and that approval for
the used/new car sales lots would be given on a one-to-one basis after
applying to the Commission. Mr. Stoel stated that he is not in favor
of making the regulations retroactive as is proposed. He is further of
the opinion that some of the proposed regulations and restrictions are
ambiguous.
Mrs. Romans stated that each regulation or restriction contained in the
proposal addresses a specific problem that has been noted in the existing
new or used car lots along Broadway. These regulations were drafted by
the City Attorney's office following meetings with members of the City
Council and staff.
Mr. Stoel stated that he felt if a used car dealer wanted to install a
chain-link fence along his property, he should have that right. Mr.
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Gourdin asked what need there is for chain-link and barbed wire fencing;
has the EPD been contacted to determine the number of thefts from vehicles
on the lots.
Mr. Allen asked how the installation of landscaping and lighting would
put these used car dealers out of business. Mr. Allen noted that other
businesses are required to install landscaping and to make other improve-
ments on the property; he asked why the car dealerships should be exempt
from these same provisions. Mr. Stoel stated that his concern is for
the car lots that are in existence at the present time. Mr. Allen stated
that he is in favor of giving them time to make the modifications, and
felt that until 7/1/87 was a reasonable amount of time to comply with
the ordinance.
Mr. Barbre suggested that compliance should be required when the car lot
changed ownership. Mr. Barbre pointed out that there are some smaller
lots along Broadway that might have space for two vehicles if they were
required to provide the driving lanes, employee/customer parking, etc.
that is required in the proposed regulations.
Mr. McBrayer noted that the cost of real estate on Broadway at the present
time seems to be conducive to putting in small car lots vs. constructing
new office buildings.
Mr. Carson stated that he sees no problem with the car lots, but wants
to clean up the City as much as possible. He does see a problem with
putting people out of business.
Mr. Stoel stated that he did not like to see lots where vehicles are parked
all over and across sidewalks; if these lots are creating problems, he
feels they should have to come before the Commission on a one-to-one basis.
He does not want to see a lot of rules and regulations enacted for one
specific type of business. Mr. Allen pointed out the need for rules and
regulations in order to deal with the car lots even on a one-to-one basis.
Mrs. Romans asked the reaction of the Commission if the "grandfather"
clause was eliminated, and it was worded that the car lot would have to
be brought into compliance when the business changed hands; would this
be more acceptable. Mr. McBrayer stated that he would like it better.
Mr. Barbre asked if all the existing car lots were developed under the
existing laws. Mrs. Romans stated that there are not really any City
laws governing the sale of new and used vehicles. They have not had to
provide parking for customers or for employees; they do not have to pro-
vi.de a driving lane for emergency vehicles. Further discussion ensued.
Mr. Beier suggested that the enactment of these rules and regulations
might force property owners and tenants to adopt the highest and best
use of the land; the highest and best use of the land might be an of-
fice building rather than use as a car sales lot.
Mr. Stoel stated that he agreed the issue needs to be addressed, but
suggested that the regulations and restrictions proposed are "a little
much."
Mr. Venard suggested on Item g, Page 5 of a summary, that the wording
be changed to "either bumper" rather than "bumpers". He did not feel
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the present wording eliminated the 45° angle of some display vehicles.
The issue of fencing was again discussed. Mr. Gourdin stated that he
does not feel it is aesthetically pleasing to see barbed wire atop a
chain-link fence. He would prefer no fencing along car lots. Mr. Stoel
suggested that perhaps insurance companies are requiring that the lots
be fenced.
There was no further discussion; the proposed amendments will be considered
at Public Hearing on May 14.
VI. PUBLIC FORUM.
There was no one to address the Conunission under Public Forum.
VII. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mrs. Romans stated that the City Council, at their meeting of May 6,
1985, approved the administrative and general regulations sections of
the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance; also the R-1 and R-2 residential
sections and other sections not previously approved by Council. The
ordinance will become final 30 days after publication.
City Council approved the request for rezoning of 3511 South Downing
Street, which was filed by Mr. James Plunnner, to accommodate a parking
lot for Fratelli's Restaurant.
The City Council approved the Warren/Pecos right-of-way vacation.
Mrs. Romans stated that she was leaving for Philadelphia, PA. on May 8
to attend a Land Use Law session. If members of the Commission had any
questions on Planning matters, they were requested to call Susan King,
Senior Planner.
VIII. COMMISSION'S CHOICE.
Mr. Allen stated that he wanted to meet with Mr. Carson and Mr. Gourdin
after the meeting to discuss the issue of trash.
Mr. McBrayer reported on the APA Conference in Montreal, which he at-
tended. He stated that he was impressed with the vibrant downtown area,
and that shopping "malls" are unfamiliar to the people of Montreal. Mr.
McBrayer stated that he did notice a lack of greenery in the City Center.
Mr. McBrayer reported on issues discussed at the Conference itself, such
as the efficiency of the professional staff and staff support of the
Planning Commission; it is a healthy process to discuss to consensus on
an issue after a Hearing is closed, even though members of the audience
may be waiting for a decision; there should be a provision in by-laws
of the Commission for submission of a "minority report" if so desired;
this should be included with the "Findings of Fact" on each case. Other
issues that were discussed included matters such as: Planning Connnissioners
should have input into the hiring and firing of staff; the Planning Com-
mission may call public hearings for any reason, at any time if members
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feel that something they are promoting is not getting sufficient attention
from the proper people; Bonus Densities must be given only for the benefit
of the public, and not for the benefit of a developer; use of the "move to
consent" after something has been discussed at length in a study session
and agreement has been reached; requirement of rezoning/planned develop-
ments when a specific "plan" is cited as reason for a rezoning; use of
special limitations clause which applicants can use to "limit" the develop-
ment they propose for a site --this would operate much the same as a
restrictive covenant; some governmental agencies are allowing effects
of an operation on one property to extend onto an adjoining property --
such as crop spraying --this extension is allowed for a given distance,
and could also apply to issues of odors, noise, etc. Mr. McBrayer stated
that he attended a workshop in elementary law; the Planning Commission is
an advisory body, and is pretty free to make recommendations to try to
steer the course of the city for the future. Mr. McBrayer stated that
the trip was very enjoyable, and he expressed his appreciation to the
Commission for approving his attendance.
Mr. Beier noted that some time ago, approval was given to a "car polishing-
refinishing" use on South Broadway; it appears that nothing is happening
on the site, and asked whether the staff had further information on this
proposed use. Ms. King stated that she understood the applicants had
found the Building Code requirements to be more than were financially
feasible, and have dropped their plans for use of the property. Mr. Beier
asked what happened to the approval given by the Commission. Mrs. Romans
suggested that something be recorded with the County which would nullify
the Commission action. Mr. Venard asked if a time frame is a part of
Conditional Use approval. Mrs. Romans stated that no time frame was con-
sidered on this use. Mr. Stoel suggested that any other automotive use
of the property would have to go through the same process before the Com-
mission. Mrs. Romans agreed.
The meeting adjourned at 8:40 P. M.