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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
June 18, 1985
5:00 P. M.
Members of the Englewood Planning and Zoning Commission convened in Con-
ference Room A for a study session at 5:00 P. M. on June 18, 1985.
Members present: Magnuson, Allen, Beier, Stoel, Barbre, Carson, Venard,
Gourdin
Vargas, Acting Director of Community Development
Members absent: McBrayer
Also present: · Susan Powers, Assistant City Manager for Economic
Development
Dorothy Romans, Assistant Director of Community
Development
Susan T. King, Senior Planner
Mr. Venard stated that the purpose of the study session is to further
discuss the goals and objectives of the Commission for 1985/1986.
Goal #1, REPORT ON THE INVESTIGATION OF A CITY-WIDE RESIDENTIAL TRASH
COLLECTION BY THE CITY. INVESTIGATE THE FEASIBILITY OF CONVERSION OF
TRASH TO USEFUL PRODUCT, was discussed by Mr. Allen. He stated that
the ad hoc committee studying this problem has met, and members have
discussed the scope of concern. The minimum recommendation would be
for the City to contract the pick-up and disposal of trash with an in-
dependent disposal company, and charge this fee against the water and
sewer bills. This would assist in eliminating the "loose trash" around
the City. Mr. Allen stated that the committee has not considered any
bottom-line cost figures on the proposal at this point in time. Mr.
Allen stated that the ideal would be to have a full-blown trash re-
moval, recycling, energy conversion system. He stated that prior to
requesting funds from the City, it is his opinion that there needs to
be a clearer definition of the problem and the proposed resolutions.
No time frame has been cited as yet.
Mr. Carson stated that he understood that the Council asked the Com-
mission and staff to look into the matter of the trash collection in
the City. He urged that a recommendation be forwarded to City Council.
Mr. Allen stated that he has spoken with Mayor Otis regarding the issue
of trash col l ection, and has also spoken with the City Manager. Mr.
Allen stated that the committee needs to define what is best for Engle-
wood, and that any recommendation made to City Council must be based
on what is b est for the City.
Mr. Ca r son reit e rated his suggestion that a recommendation be sent to
Ci t y Council asking that the trash pick-up be contracted out, and that
haulers be asked to submit bids on the cost of the residential trash
p i c k -up service. Mr. Allen reiterated his opinion that the committee
needs more information prior to any recommendation being made.
Mr. Varg as suggested a need to determine the scope of any survey that
is to be done, such as an analysis of the problem, and suggested reso-
lutio ns t o the problem.
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Mr. Stoel asked if an ordinance could be enacted requiring that every
residential unit must have trash pick-up. Mr. Carson stated that he
would rather see the City ask for bids to have the trask pick-up done.
Mr. Allen again stated that he felt action beyond defining the scope
of the problem and the economic needs is premature. He stated that
there is a need to also look at the long-range needs --pick-up, in-
cineration, conversion. He pointed out that a complete incineration
program probably would not cost as much as a new City Hall, and that
we have waited too long to "ease" into the program.
The committee is to do further refinement on the scope of the pnoblem,
and further define proposed resolutions, and report back to the Com-
mission as a whole.
Goal II, REVIEW SWEDISH HOSPITAL MASTER PLANS AND POTENTIAL IMPACT ON
THE NEIGHBORHOOD, was considered. Mrs. Romans stated that the Commis-
sion has traditionally met with the Swedish Hospital Board in the Fall.
Goal III, DEVELOP A PROMOTION PLAN FOR ENGLEWOOD UTILIZING THE NEW
BROCHURE, was next discussed. Mr. Stoel asked if EDDA was not to work
with the City in developing a brochure and a promotion plan for the
City. Ms. Powers stated that EDDA has developed the englewood, which
is an informational brochure. Mr. Stoel asked if there were some way
the Commission could be kept informed on the activities of the EDDA.
Ms. Powers stated that EDDA is doing a marketing study for the area
east of Broadway. Discussion ensued. Mr. Venard suggested that copies
of the Commission minutes be sent to EDDA, and ask the Director of EDDA
if copies of their minutes could be available to the Planning Commission.
Goal IV, REVIEW REPORT BEING GENERATED REGARDING CITY TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
REVIEW THE MASTER STREET PLAN FOR NECESSARY CHANGES, was discussed. Mrs.
Romans reported that the Traffic Engineering Division has nearly com-
pleted the traffic counts; when this information is available, it will
be used in the revision of the Master Street Plan, and designation of
collector and arterial streets will be based on this information.
Goal V, ESTABLISH SOLAR ACCESS ORDINANCE, was then considered. Mrs.
Romans stated that Mrs. Rothweiler, Planner I, has been doing research
on this topic, and on the satellite dish issue, and the staff hopes to
have something to present to the Commission in the near future.
Goal VI, INITIATE STUDY TO DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY AND SOURCE OF
FUNDS FOR OXFORD PARKWAY FROM BROADWAY TO SANTA FE (MEDIAN), was dis-
cussed. Mr. Venard stated that an ad hoc committee composed of Mr.
McBrayer, Mr. Magnuson, and himself were looking into this issue. Mr .
Vargas suggested that this project might also be considered in conjunc-
tion with the Capital Improvements Program. Mrs. Romans stated that
the Commission will have the C.I.P. on the agenda for the meeting of
July 2.
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Goal VII, IDENTIFY AREAS TO ANNEX THAT WOULD BE OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY.
ENCOURAGE ANNEXATION OF THE IDENTIFIED AREAS, was considered. Mr. Carson
asked what progress had been made on the discussions with Home Lumoer.
Mrs. Romans stated that she has not had further discussions with. this
business owner, but she will attempt to contact him. Mr. Carson then
inquired about the areas in the proximity of West Tufts Avenue. Mrs.
Romans pointed out that the City has annexed some of these same prop-
erties previously, but the annexations were voided. These property
owners are opposed to annexation, and prefer their status in Arapahoe
County. Discussion ensued. Mr. Vargas stated that it might be ap-
propriate for the Commission to recommend to City Council that steps
be taken to pursue the annexation of these enclave areas in the vicinity
of West Tufts Avenue.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Planning Commission recommend td. City Council that
action be taken to annex the enclave properties in the
vicinity of West Tufts Avenue, and to annex Home Lumber
Company.
Further discussion ensued.
The vote was called:
AYES: Magnuson, Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin
NAYS: None
ABSENT: McBrayer
ABSTAIN: None
The motion carried.
Goal VIII, HOLD JOINT MEETINGS WITH COMMISSIONERS OF ADJACENT C!TIES.
DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR OUR OOMMISSIONF:RS, ··:Was
considered. Mr. Venard stated that it is the intent of the Commission
to pursue setting up meetings with the various jurisdictions. Ms. Powers
suggested that the Commission might consider adding the Arapahoe County
Planning Commission to this group.
Goal IX/ COMPLETE REVIEW OF SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, will be pursued
after the completion of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance revision.
Goal X, REQUEST MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL. FINALIZE AGENDA SUGGESTIONS
FOR SUCH MEETING, was discussed. Mr. Stoel suggested that the Commission
should begin compiling a list of agenda items they would like to discuss
with the City Council. Mr. Vargas was also asked to write a letter asking
for a meeting with the City Council sometime in September .
Goal XI, STUDY ZONE CHANGES AND CONSIDER REVISIONS OF THE ZONING MAP,
was considered. Mrs. Romans stated that she would plan a tour of these
areas at the pleasure of the Commission. The Commission suggested the
date of July 27, 1985, to begin the tour at 7:30 A. M.
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Goal XII, REVIEW HANDBOOK, is in progress.
Goal XIII, SATELLITE DISH ORDINANCE, was discussed. Mrs. Romans stated
that Mrs. Rothweiler, Planner I, is researching this matter in conjunc-
tion with her research of the Solar Access Ordinance. Mrs. Romans stated
that proposed regulations will be drafted in the format of the Zoning
Ordinance, and that satellite dishes will be listed as Accessory Uses;
some controls on setbacks of such Accessory Uses will be exercised in
this manner. Mrs. Rothweiler has also arranged to have a speaker on the
satellite dishes address the Commission at the meeting of July 16 .
Goal XIV 1 ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REVIEW, was considered. Mr. Allen felt
this item should be eliminated from the list. Mr. Venard stated that
he was of the opinion that the objective in including this on the list
was to gain more information. Mrs. Romans stated that the staff would
get a draft of proposed regulations to the Commission.
Mr. Venard asked Mrs. Romans to also submit to the Commission a list
of the areas in town where the zoning designation is of concern to the
staff.
Mr. Carson suggested that enlargement of the Golf Course club house
should be included on this list. Mr. Venard suggested that this item
would be more appropriately included on the Capital Improvement Program.
Mr. Venard asked if the staff had gotten a report on the sidewalks
around Burt Chevrolet, and at Belleview and Broadway. Mrs. Romans
stated that the staff had a meeting with State Highway representatives,
and it seems to be the policy of the State to assume responsibility
for the area between the "curbs"; anything back of the curb line is
the City responsibility. Mrs. Romans stated that s .he has written to
the City Attorney to try to find out what the City's responsibility
is, but has not received a reply as of this time.
Mr. Venard stated that if there were no further comments, the meeting
would recess and reconvene at 7:00 P. M. in the City Council Chambers
for the regular Commission meeting.
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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
June 18, 1985
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Chnlrman Ve nard at 7:00 P. M.
Members present: Stoe l, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin,
Magnuson
Members absent:
Also present:
Varg as, ActJng DJr e ctor of Community Development
McB ray e r
Susan Powers, Executive Director of the Urban Renewal
Authority
D. A. Romans, Assistant Director of Community Development
Susan King, Senior Planner
Jack Olsen, City Attorney
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES .
June 4, 1985
Chairman Venard stated that the Minutes of June 4, 1985 were to be
considered for approval.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Minutes of June 4, 1985 be approved as written.
AYES: Stoel, Venard, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin, Magnuson
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: All en
ABSENT: McBrayer
The motion carried.
III. DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
Amendment #8
CASE /114-85
Ms. Powers, Ex ecutive Director of the Englewood Urban Renewal Authority,
addressed the Commission, and stated that th.e purpose of the presenta-
tion is to ask the Commission to review proposed Amendment 11 8 for the
Downtown Redevelopment Plan. This proposed amendment must be considered
by the Commission, and found to be in conformance with the Comprehensive
Plan o f the City. City Council has scheduled a Public Hearing on this
proposed amendment for July 1, 1985. Previous amendments to the Plan
have been to add properties to the list for acquisition by the Authority,
and changes in the tex t. Amendment #8 is concerned with a change in the
boundarie s of the Urban Renewal Project Area, and with changes to the
tex t of the Plan.
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Ms. Powers discussed the modifications to the boundaries of the Urban
Renewal Project Area, one of which is the addition of the present Park
Floral property south of U. S. 285, and several adjacent properties.
There are serious storm drainage problems in this area, and the present
system cannot adequately serve the industrial area on Kalamath and
Kenyon. Ms. Powers stated that Urban Renewal statutes require solicita-
tion of developers for any area to be developed, which will be done.
The sales tax and property tax generated by the new development on the
site will help to pay for the storm sewer improvements; the redevelop-
ment cannot occur until the storm sewer problems are alleviated, and
the storm sewer problems cannot be alleviated until a firm commitment
is made for the redevelopment of the property. Including this area in
the Urban Renewal Project Area is the first step to enable negotiations
with property owners and developers to occur. Ms. Powers also discussed
access problems to the site, and which properties will be required to pro-
vide the access from U. S. 285.
Mr. Stoel asked if this area was zoned for industrial development. Ms.
Powers answered in the affirmative.
Ms. Powers indicated the second area where the boundary will be changed;
this is around the former Safeway Store, and straightening the boundary
to include the total new Safeway Store.
Ms. Powers stated that the Planning staff has reviewed the amendments to
the Plan, and have concluded that the proposed boundary modifications
and text changes are compatible with the Comprehensive Plan. Approval
of proposed Amendment #8 is recommended, and a proposed resolution is
part of the staff report which has been submitted to the Commission.
This resolution, if approved by the Commission, will be referred to the
City Council for their Public Hearing on July 1.
Mr. Venard asked if there were further questions from the Planning Com-
mission.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Planning Conunission approve Resolution #2, Series
of 1985, A RESOLUTION OF THE ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND
ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING CONSISTENCY OF THE AMENDED
DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE GENERAL PLAN OF
THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD, and refer said Resolution and
Amendment #8 to the Downtown Redevelopment Plan to the
City Council.
AYES: Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin, Magnuson, Stoel
NAYS: None
ABSTAI N: None
ABSENT: McBrayer
The motion carr ied.
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IV. CONDITIONAL USE
3986-1/2 South Broadway
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CASE #11-85
Mr. Venard stated that this case is a request for approval of a Condi-
tional Use, an automotive repair shop, in the B-2 Zone District.
Barbre moved:
Carson seconded: The Public H·earing on Case #11-85 be opened.
AYES: Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin, Magnuson, Stoel, Venard
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: McBrayer
The motion carried.
Mr. Venard stated that he has been handed a list of members in the audience,
who he will call on the address the Commission. He asked that those speak-
ing to the Commission come to the podium, state their name and address, and
be sworn in. Mr. Venard stated that he does have a copy of the notice of
public hearing, which was published in the Englewood Sentinel on May 29,
1985 .
Mr. Venard asked if the staff wished to make further statements at this
time. Mrs. Romans stated that the staff had nothing to add to what is
contained in the staff report.
Mr. Venard then called on Mr. Reitler; Mr. Reitler stated that he had
no comment. Mr. Venard called on Mr. Sorenson; Mr. Sorenson had no
comment. Mr. Venard called on Mr. Henke.
Mr. Philip Henke, 3986 South Broadway, was sworn in. He testified that
he appeared before the Planning Commission previously on January 22, 1985,
at which time they were also requesting approval of the automotive repair
shop as a Conditional Use in the B-2 Zone District. At that time, there
were several conditions the Commission wanted to place on the approval
of the request, one of which he and Mr. Jha took exception to. This con-
dition was the imposition of a fence across the rear of the property; if
this fence were to have been constructed, it would have eliminted the use
of the rear of the building and the two parking spaces which are located
there. They appealed this issue to the Board of Adjustment, which Board
granted a varance and said that it would not be reasonable to require the
parking for Mr. Jha's business to be screened. Mr. Henke and Mr. Jha are
now asking that the Commission approve the Conditional Use at this loca-
tion. Mr. Henke stated that he has had an architect make a survey of the
building, and a list of items has been submitted that are needed to bring
the building up to Code. Mr. Henke presented a letter from Robert W.
Naudack, owner of properties at 3997 South Lincoln Street, 3983 South
Lincoln Street, and 3971 South Lincoln Street, which indicates that Mr.
Naudack has no objection to the operation of an automotive repair shop
at 3986-1/2 South Broadway. Mr. Henke stated that the staff report ad-
dresses the issue of parking on-street by the employees and customers
of these businesses. Mr. Henke stated that the on-site parking is limited
to two spaces in the rear of the building, which he has assigned to Mr.
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Jha. Mr. Henke stated his employees, and Mr. Jha and his employee, park
on Nassau Avenue. Mr. Henke stated that he has leased and operated his
business at this location for six yeara, and he has never provided off-
street parking for his employees in that period of time. Mr. Naudack
has stated that he has no problem with the parking along Nassau Avenue
by the employees of these two businesses. No vehicles are left on-street
over night. Mr. Henke stated that he did not feel this small business
operated by Mr. Jha is compounding the parking problem on Broadway or on
Nassau. Mr. Henke stated that there is space in Mr. Jha's portion of
the building to park two vehicles, plus the two spaces at the rear of
his building which he has been assigned ·. This will be used for customer
parking and for vehicles that are being worked on.
Mr. Carson asked the number of employees for each of these businesses.
Mr. Henke stated that he has three employees in addition to himself;
Mr. Jha has one employee and himself for a total of five employees for
the two businesses. Mr. Carson noted that this is five people that are
being asked to park on residential streets; he asked Mr. Henke if he
felt this was right.
Mr. Henke stated that he hasn't had any parking for his employees for a
long time; he did have an agreement with Mr. Markham; this property is
now being used as a car sales lot, so he lost that area for parking.
Mr. Stoel noted that Mr. Henke stated that an architect has surveyed
the building and submitted a list of changes, which the City has accepted
with the addition of one exit door. Mr. Stoel asked if the applicant plans
to do the remodeling to the building. Mr. Henke stated that he will do it
if it is necessary, and it will be done at his expense. Mr. Stoel asked
if a condition for approval were that the remodeling would be done as
outlined by the architect and with the additional exit door, would the
applicant be willing to do them. Mr. Henke replied in the affirmative.
Mr. Allen asked if people parked in the alley. Mr. Henke stated that
people do not park in the alley, but in the back of the garage. The
vehicles to be repaired are parked on the north side of the garage building.
There is not sufficient room to park in the alley. Mr. Henke pointed out
that Little Wheels has the parking rights to a part of the area at the
rear of his building, and also uses street parking for a number of their
lot vehicles they are preparing for sale.
Mr. Donald Rippen, 304 Wellington, Northglenn, was sworn in. Mr. Rippen
testified that he is the owner of the property in question, and wanted
to reassure the Planning Commission that he has been in control of the
property since 1970. There had been no change in the parking needs of
the leasees of the property since that time. Mr. Rippen stated that if
the Commission denies the use of the garage "you will deny another small
businessman in Englewood." Spaces for small business garage areas are
very difficult to find; he stated that he gets no more money from the
lease of this building to Mr. Jha, who sub-leases from Mr. Henke, so
that is not a factor in his urging approval of the request.
Mr. Allen asked if Mr. Rippen operated a business on the property. Mr .
Rippen stated that he did not; he owns the property, leasing the buildings
to other businessmen. He stated that he did have a business on the site
from 1970 to 1979.
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Mr. Allen asked if Mr. Rippen
serve the parking congestion.
property from time to time.
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had occasion to view the property and ob-
Mr. Rippen stated that he does view the
Mr. Venard asked if Mr. Rippen was aware of the off-street parking re-
quirements for this type of business. Mr. Rippen stated that he possibly
was not aware. Mr. Venard asked if Mrs. Romans could give the minimum
requirements for off-street parking on these businesses. Mrs. Romans
stated that this is a "mixed-use" and should be figured as separate uses.
Computing the parking needs at one space per each two employees, plus
two spaces for each 300 square feet of repair or maintenance area would
be the formula to be used. She stated that the applicant has not sub-
mitted a floor plan giving the square footage, so it would be difficult
to determine at this time what the minimum parking should be. Mr. Rippen
estimated that the square footage of the building is 2,800 sq. ft. Mrs.
Romans estimated a minimum of 9 off-street parking spaces would be required
based on the square footage alone.
Mr. Venard pointed out that Mr. Rippen has stated that if the Commission
were to deny approval of this request, they would be denying another
small business in Englewood; Mr. Venard asked Mr. Rippen what he felt
his responsibility to be to provide parking for those businesses using
his property. Mr. Rippen stated that if he owns the property, he would
have to provide the parking to make it a viable business. Mr. Venard
stated that it did not appear that Mr. Rippen could provide the needed
parking for these businesses on this property. Mr. Rippen stated that
the "spaces are there but the way it's divided up they aren't provided
for these uses." Mr. Venard suggested that merchants should be responsible
enough to provide parking on their property for the use of that property,
and not to rely on the over-loading of streets to provide the parking
for the business.
Mr. Allen asked if Mr. Rippen had a plan for the subject site showing
where the parking is located. Mr. Rippen stated that he did not. Mr.
Allen asked if Mr. Rippen planned to develop a plan showing the City
where the parking would be provided. Mr. Rippen stated that his "future
use [of the property] is unknown at this time."
Mr. Carson asked how many parking spaces were provided on the lot on the
corner at Broadway and Nassau. Mr. Rippen stated that he is not prepared
to answer this question. Mr. Carson stated that a lot of the vehicles
from the corner business are parking on the street. Mr. Rippen stated
"Is that a fact, sir?" Mr. Carson stated "It's a fact."
Mr. Venard asked if there were additional questions of Mr. Rippen. He
then asked that Mr. Jha come to the podium.
Shiv Jee Jha, 3986 South Broadway, was sworn in. Mr. Jha stated that he
is sub-leasing space from Englewood Motor Supply, and does minor repair.
There have been no concerns and no problems expressed to him since the
previous hearing; there is oniy one employee besides himself in his por-
tion of the business. Mr. Jha stated that there are spaces for two ve-
hicles in the building, and two at the rear of the building; none of
the vehicles remain over-night.
Mr. Stoel stated that the staff report indicates that Mr. Jha has been
in business since November, 1984. Mr. Jha stated that this is correct.
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He applied for a sales tax license at that time, and was told that this
use would have to be approved by the Commission before the Sales Tax
License could be issued. Mr. Jha stated that he was told by the City
that he could operate the business, but had to get the business approved
by the Commission before he could get a sales tax license.
Mr. Venard stated that the staff report also indicates that Mr. Jha does
not have an Occupancy Permit for his portion of the building. Mr. Jha
stated that his application is in; this is the third public hearing he
has been through on this matter. Mr. Jha reiterated that he was told
by "people" in City Hall that he could continue operating his business
until the Planning Commission makes a decision.
Mr. Allen stated that the City has received complaints regarding the
parking congestion in the area. Mr. Jha stated that there are now three
businesses operating there; the car sales lot is parking cars on the
street, plus Little Wheels, and his business. ·
Mr. Allen stated that he understood that Mr. Jha was alleging he has had
no contact from City Hall on the parking issue, or the lack of sales tax
license, or occupancy permit; is this correct. Mr. Jha again stated that
the City has told him that he could continue to operate his business; that
a sales tax license could not be issued until the business was approved
for this location.
Mr. Vargas stated that it was his understanding that Mr. Jha had applied
for his sales tax license after he had been in operation for a while; he
was told that he would have to get approval from the Planning Commission
for this type of business to operate at this location, and was informed
that he would not be "shut down" until he got a determination from the
Planning Commission on his application for approval of the business. Mr.
Jha has been pursuing this since January, 1985.
Mr. Venard asked if there were any questions from the Commission. Mr.
Venard then asked if there was anyone else in the audience who wished
to speak on this matter. No one else indicated they wanted to address
the Commission on this issue.
Mr. Stoel stated that this is a very difficult situation. Mr. Stoel
stated that Mr. Jha is trying to do business. Concern was expressed
by some of the neighbors at the previous hearing; however, Mr. Jha and
Mr. Henke have now obtained a letter from Mr. Naudack who says he has
no problem with the operation of this business at this location, so at
least one adjacent neighbor has changed his mind about the problems this
use may cause. Mr. Stoel also pointed out that the building is an existing
structure; parking spaces cannot be provided for the uses on the site
because the space isn't available for the parking. Mr. Stoel stated
that he does want to make sure that the building is safe, and the applicants
have had an architect view the building and have submitted his recommenda-
tions, to which the City has also added a requirement. Mr. Stoel stated
that he wanted to see Mr. Jha obtain the proper licenses and permits to
operate the business, and would like to see Mr. Jha continue to operate
his business at this location. Mr. Stoel stated that he does see the
problems that are being created by the auto sales lot on the corner,
but on the subject property he does not see a problem other than the
safety of the building.
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Mr. Allen stated that he did not see how there could be sufficient parking
to accommodate these uses. Mr. Stoel stated that the space for the parking
is not there, and this situation will not change, no matter what type of
use might be on the site. This entire structure would have to be razed
and a new structure erected with the required parking figured into the
new development.
Mr. Venard stated that he could appreciate what Mr. Stoel is saying; it
is an unfortunate situation, and Mr. Jha is caught in the middle. What-
ever the Commission does, the parking area is not available, and the em-
ployees will be using parking on the public streets. Mr. Venard stated
that we do have problems in this area and the business density on this
site does compound the parking problems. Mr. Venard stated that he did
not feel that he could support the application.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #11-85 be closed.
AYES: Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin, Magnuson, Stoel, Venard, Allen
NAYS: None
ABSENT: McBrayer
ABSTAIN: None
The motion carried .
Mr. Venard asked for further discussion on this matter.
Mr. Carson stated that he had to agree with Mr. Venard; there is insuf-
ficient parking, and the business density on this corner is too crowded.
All the parking for employees from these businesses is on-street.
Mr. Stoel pointed out that a business other than automotive-related could
lease this site, which might require more parking, but the Commission
could have no voice in the matter because it might not be a Conditional
Use in the B-2 Zone District. Mr. Stoel emphasized that this is an existing
building, there is insufficient parking space, and it will not be solved
no matter what type of business is on this site. Mr. Stoel acknowledged
that the used car lot is the problem, but it is not the point of concern
at this time; he asked why Mr. Jha should be put out of business because
of the lack of parking which he cannot change.
Mr. Allen stated that there are some types of business that might be
able to use the premises that would have fewer employees, and would not
require the number of parking spaces that are presently required. He
stated that bringing vehicles for repair does add to the parking con-
gestion.
Mr. Gourdin stated that Mr. Naudack may have given approval or said he
has no problems with this particular business, but pointed out that there
are three residential properties adjacent to the rear of the site which
are owned by Mr. Naudack. Mr. Gourdin stated that he felt one of the
Commission's responsibilities is to the residents living adjacent to
business areas, and cited factors such as noise, additional traffic,
air pollution, which must all be taken into consideration.
Mr. Magnuson stated that he felt there were good points in everything
that has been said; however, there is a business there, and the matter
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of lack of parking and parking on-street goes back to the matter of en-
forcement. If a car is only parked on-street for 24 hours, it is legal.
Mr. Naudack's renters did not appear at the first meeting in January to
protest the use of the property as an auto repair shop, and Mr. Naudack
himself has apparently changed his mind about the problems experienced
with the use. Mr. Magnuson stated that he would have to support the ap-
plication, but emphasized that Mr. Jha would have to meet all the con-
ditions of bringing the building up to Code, obtaining the proper licenses
and permits, etc.
Carson moved:
Allen seconded: The Planning Commission deny approval for a Conditional
Use at 3986 South Broadway as requested by Mr. Shiv Jee Jha
for use as an auto repair shop. This denial is sub-
stantiated by the staff recommendation in Case #11-85,
staff recommendation being that the subleasing to Caesar's
Auto Service compounds on-street parking by customers and
employees; there is heavy use of the alley by vehicles,
with vehicles parked in the back of the property in
various states of repair; and that this location cannot
accommodate the increased intensity of business resulting
from Caesar's Auto Service.
AYES: Beier, Carson, Gourdin, Venard, Allen, Barbre
NAYS: Magnuson, Stoel
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: McBrayer
The motion carried.
V. SUBDIVISION WAIVER
Centennial Shopping Center
Mr. Venard asked if the applicant was present.
CASE #12-85
Mr. Bruce Reitler stated that he is a general partner of Centennial Limited
Partnership, which owns the Centennial Acres Shopping Center. Mr. Reitler
stated that there have been problems with access, and with a water and
sewer line running across the lot with no easement of record for this line.
They have made plans to expand the shopping center, and this is when the
water and sewer lines were located; in their present location, they would
have to run under a building, which is not approved by the City. To re-
solve these problems, Mr. Reitler stated that he and Mr. Sorenson, who
owns the property at 5000 South Federal Boulevard, have agreed to a trade
of property, and Mr. Reitler will construct a new building for Mr. Sorenson.
The Centennial Acres Shopping Center is not part of an approved subdivision,
and to effectuate the property exchange and the expansion of the shopping
center, they have to request a waiver to the Subdivision Regulations.
Mr. Sorenson stated that he does agree with Mr. Reitler's presentation,
and pointed out that while two addresses, 5000 and 5050 South Federal
Boulevard are listed in the staff report, the correct address is 5000
South Federal Boulevard.
Mr. Venard asked if there were any questions or comments from the Com-
mission.
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Mr. Stoel commended the two applicants on working out a satisfactory
solution to the problem.
Stoel moved:
Carson seconded: The Planning Commission approve granting a Subdivision
Waiver to Mr. Bruce F. Reitler and Leonard C. Sorenson
as requested in Case #12-85 for the Centennial Acres
Shopping Center.
AYES: Carson, Gourdin, Magnsuon, Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: McBrayer
The motion carried.
VI. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE
§16.4-17
CASE 1/15-85
Mr. Venard stated that at the last meeting, the Commission discussed the
matter of fences in relation to the B-2 Business District. It was the
consensus of the Commission that it might be more appropriate to modify
some provisions in the Fence Ordinance than to further modify the business
district regulations .
Mr. Carson asked if fences were required in the B-1 Zone District. Mrs.
Romans stated that fences are not "required"; they are "permitted". Mr.
Carson stated that he would not object to fences along the alley line in
the business districts; he does not want to see fences along the street
frontage on South Broadway. Mr. Carson stated that he has driven through
several municipalities and viewed their car lots, and "there is no city
that has car lots with fencing except the City of Englewood."
Mr. Stoel asked if the Commission wanted to address the issue of fencing
differently in the B-1 and B-2 districts. Mr. Carson stated that he did
not feel that there were that many areas in downtown with alleys where
fencing might be installed; he stated that he did not object to decorative
planters along the front of properties.
Mrs. Romans pointed out some areas that are zoned B-1 where fencing is
installed, and cited St. Louis School, the Malley Center, Simon Center
Parking Lot, for instance; these are legitimate use of fencing.
Mr. Allen stated that his primary objection is to the "type" of fencing
that might be installed.
Discussion ensued. Mrs. Romans noted that on the Malley Center corner
lot, the fencing is set back to the front building line.
Mr. Gourdin cited a provision from the City of Aurora whereby a triangle
30 ft. back from the point of intersection is restricted from fencing .
Mr. Stoel asked how fencing could be eliminated only from the front of
a property. Mr. Allen suggested that it be eliminated on the "street
side" of a property.
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Mr. Magnuson stated that he felt the decorative masonry walls, Class I,
should be left as an option, provided the height could be restricted.
Mrs. Romans suggested that fences be excluded in the front of the property,
and on corner lots, the "triangle" could be used, or the prohibition could
apply to any fence on the "street side".
Mr. Carson suggested that Class I type fences, (decorative masonry walls),
up to a maximum height of 30 inches, could be allowed on street frontages.
It was also suggested that there should be an exclusion of public buildings
or educational insitutions from these provisions; they could install
fencing on street sides. Mr. Stoel asked why public buildings should
be excluded; he was opposed to this provision. He would approve fencing
around educational institutions because it is a safety factor for the
children.
Wording of the proposed amendment was discussed. Mrs. Romans suggested
that a new section d.l. be added, reading: Fences of Class 2, 3, 4, or
5 shall not be permitted on the street side of any property. Fences of
Class 1 on the street side shall not exceed 30 inches in height. This
provision shall not apply to educational institutions. Fences in the
rear yard or interioT side yard may be of Class 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5, and
shall not exceed 6 feet in height." This wording was acceptable to the
Commission.
Mr. Venard asked about section c.6. Mr. Allen stated that he did not
want to permit a barbed wire fence at all. Mr. Stoel stated that he
did not feel this issue needed to be addressed; barbed wire would be
restricted to industrial areas, and at a height not less than six feet.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Planning Commission schedule a Public Hearing on
July 16, 1985 at 7:00 P. M. to consider amendment of
§16.4-17 d.l.
AYES: Magnuson, Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: McBrayer
The motion carried.
VI. FINDINGS OF FACT
B-2 Zone District
CASE /110-85
Mr. Stoel noted on Page 1 of the Findings of Fact, it indicates that
Mr. Thompson "testified"; inasmuch as the date Mr. Thompson addressed
the Commission was not the date of the Public Hearing, Mr. Stoel sug-
gested it should read that Mr. Thompson "stated". It was also suggested
that the phrase "one car lot owner" should be stricken.
Magnuson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Findings of Fact for Case #1-85 be approved as
corrected.
AYES: Stoel, Venard, Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin, Magnuson
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ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: McBrayer
The motion carried.
VII. PUBLIC FORUM.
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There was no one present to address the Commission.
VIII. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Nothing was brought before the Commission under Director's Choice.
IX. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE.
Mr. Beier noted that view of some stop signs is -·obstructed ' ·by vehicles
parkingdn front of them; he asked how close parking is permitted to
corners and stop signs. Mr. Vargas stated that he understood parking is
restricted 25 feet from any corner. Mr. Stoel stated that according to
the Engineering office, it is restricted for 30 feet. Mr. Vargas stated
he would clarify this and report back to the Commission .
Mr. Carson also noted that some traffic regulatory signs are visually
obstructed by tree branches.
Mr. Magnuson stated that one of the sessions he attended at the APA Con-
ference in Montreal pertained to a vote by acclamation rather than having
a voice vote on every motion. He asked why this could not be done on
matters such as opening public hearings. Mr. Vargas stated that this is
a procedural matter which may be addressed in the Commissioner's Handbook.
Mr. Stoel stated that on matters where there is possible litigation, he
felt it would be better to have the individual voice vote.
Further discussion ensued on the Conditional Use case heard earlier.
Mr. Magnuson pointed out that some use might go in on this site that
could have many more vehicles than Mr. Jha's business, but the Commis-
sion might not get to address the issue if it is not a Conditional Use.
Mrs. Romans stated that a large part of the problem is that parking for
this building has been allotted to the businessman operating on the cor-
ner of Broadway and Nassau.
The meeting adjourned at 8:55 P. M.
/ x!£ -/ h ~-t <dct~ 7, c Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary