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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 19 1 1985
CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Stoel at 7:00 P. M.
Members present: Beier, Carson, Gourdin, Mesa, Stoel, Allen,
Barbre
Members absemt: Magnuson
Also present: D. A. Romans, Assistant ·Director of Community
Development
Susan T. King, Senior Planner
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
November 5 1 1985
Chairman Stoel stated that the Minutes of November 5 1 1985 1 were
to be considered for approval.
Carson moved:
Allen/Barbre seconded: The Minutes of November s, 1985 be ap-
proved as written.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Carson, Gourdin, Stoel, Allen, Barbre, Beier
None
Mesa
Magnuson
The motion carried.
III. 4755 SOUTH SANTA FE DRIVE
Planned Development
CASE #33-85
Chairman Stoel stated that the Commission and staff have received
a request from Mr. Cameron, applicant, that the Publ ic Hearing on
this matter be continued until December 3 1 1985 to give him
additional time to address problems noted in relation to the
Planned Development for his property.
Carson moved:
Gourdin seconded: Case #33-85 be continued to December 3 1 1985.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Gourdin, Mesa, Stoel, Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson
None
Magnuson
None
The motion carried.
IV.
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PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
300 West Belleview
CASE #34-85
Carson moved:
Barbre seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #34-85 be opened.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Mesa, Stoel, Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin
None
Magnuson
None
The motion carried.
Chairman Stoel stated that he has received a copy of the Notice
of Public Hearing published in the ENGLEWOOD SENTINEL on November
6, 1985 1 and has also received copies of the Certificate of
Posting. Mr. Stoel asked that the staff make their presentation
at this time.
Ms. Susan King was sworn in, and testified that she is the Senior
Planner in the Department of Community Development. Ms. King
discussed the requirements of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance
as they apply to the property at 300 West Belleview Avenue, which
is zoned R-3, High Density Residence. This is a 10.83 acre site,
which was annexed to the City of Englewood in 1964. The original
multi-family residential zoning of the site would allow a maximum
density of 70 dwelling units per acre with the bonus provision.
The Zoning Ordinance has since been amended, and the maximum
density allowed now is 40 dwelling units per acre. The applicant
is proposing to construct a total of 312 units on the 10.83 acre
site, or 28.8 units per acre. Open Space is required in the
Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, and the applicant is proposing
40% open space vs. the required 25%. This open space will be
lighted for security purposes. Maximum height of structures in
the R-3 Zone District is 60 feet; the maximum height proposed by
the developer is 45 feet to the highest point on the roof on the
three story buildings. Ms. King then discussed setback
provisions, and pointed out that the applicant is providing a 25
foot landscaped strip along the west side of the property, plus
carports, and driving lanes, so that the building line of the
first structures will be approximately 100 feet east of the west
property line. A 30 foot setback from West Belleview Avenue is
being provided. The applicant is providing 532 off-street
parking spaces for the 312 apartment units, and five or six
off-street loading spaces will be provided for use by tenants
moving into or out of the development.
Ms. King stated that the proposed development plans were reviewed
by all the City Departments, and that the developer has
addressed all concerns that were raised by City staff. The staff
has no conditions they suggest placing on the approval of the
proposed Planned Development.
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Mr. Beier inquired about access to the site from Belleview
Avenue. Ms. King stated that State Highway Department wants
access to the development aligned with South Delaware Street to
the north side of Belleview Avenue, which the plans indicate.
The City Traffic Engineer is concerned about left-turning
movements into and out of the development; however, the State
Highway Department does not want a traffic signal installed at
the Delaware/Belleview intersection because of the proximity to
the Belleview/Broadway intersection. The City of Englewood will
monitor the traffic flow at the Belleview/Delaware intersection
for a minimum of two years, and if specific warrants are met, a
traffic signal will be installed. The develope r has committed to
providing a traffic signal if the warrants are met. Mr. Beier
asked what "assurance" the City has that the developer will,
indeed, install such a light. Ms. King stated that there is a
letter on file to this effect.
Doug Wagner, 17633 East Temple Drive, was swor n in. Hr.Wagner
testified that he is the architect and planner for the project,
and presented several slides of the subject site and renderings
of the proposed development. Hr. Wagner stated that the site is
a compilation of five separate parcels of land that have been
purchased by Hr. Sanford Metzel, developer; the site is on the
south side of West Belleview Avenue, and west of the K-Mart
Store. A small portion of the site is within the 100 year flood
plain for Big Dry Creek, and this part of the site will be
devoted to the open space/landscaped area. The acre age of the
site is 10.83 acres total. An acceleration/deceleration lane
along West Belleview Avenue is proposed for access to the site.
An additional street light will be installed at the developer's
expense at the intersection of Belleview and South Delaware
Street . Mr. Wagner discussed the need for grading of the site
because of the topography of the land, and that the development
will be "terraced" down to Big Dry Creek. The development will
provide 147 covered carport spaces, with the remainder of the
off-street parking spaces to be open. Mr. Wagner stat ed that the
developer has committed to installation of the traffic signal if
warranted within a two-year period after they receive the final
Certificate of Occupancy.
Mr. Beier stated that he understood approximately one acre of the
site is within the boundaries of Littleton. He asked if this is
the area along Big Dry Creek. Mr. Wagner acknowledged that a
portion of the site is in Littleton, and does lie along Big Dry
Creek. This area will be used for tennis courts and volley ball
courts, and open space and landscaping purposes ; this is within
the 100 year flood plain of the Creek .
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Mr. Allen asked if this will be a condominium development. Hr.
Wagner stated the proposed development will be built as
apartments. He pointed out that condominium developments are
built in "phases" as they are sold, but an apartment development
will be built out with one construction loan. The units are
designed to be at the "high end" of apartment development, but
Hr. Wagner stated that he has not discussed the rate of rental
for the units with the developer. He stated that it would be
difficult to determine the rental rate until the construction
loan is in place.
In response to a question posed by Mr. Beier, Mr. Wagner stated
that the development will be in the Littleton School District,
District #6.
After a brief consultation with Mr. Metzel, Mr. Wagner stated
that the rental rates will begin at $420 to $550 per month for
the larger two-bedroom units, and that it will be an adult
community.
Mr. James Finn, 5166 South Elati Drive, was sworn in, and
testified that he has lived at that address for 21 years. He
stated that when he purchased his property, the land in the
Miramonte Subdivision was divided into 12 lots, and there were
nine residential lots on South Elati Drive; he thought it was all
an R-1-A, Single-family Residential area. Then he found out that
the Miramonte Subdivision was zoned R-3; he was not aware that
multi-family zoning was ever imposed immediately next to
single-family residence. Mr. Finn stated that becaus e the zoning
is in place, there is nothing that the opponents can do, but they
do ask· that the Commission consider some of their concerns. Mr.
Finn stated that the plan proposes a 45 foot high structure,
which parallels three houses on South Elati Drive; the grade of
their block slopes from the northeast to the southwest, and he is
of the opinion that if this 45 foot high struc ture is built in
this location, the residents on South Elati Drive will be in a
"canyon". Mr. Metzel also owns land to the west of South Elati
Drive, which is in Littleton; he is proposing construction of
multi-family units on this land also. If apartment construction
is allowed on both sides of South Elati Drive, the residents on
that street will be definitely placed in a "canyon". Mr. Finn
asked that the developer be required to install a seven foot
fence on the property line between his property to the east and
South Elati Drive; that the landscaped buffer be composed of
trees and bushes, not rocks and gravel; if carports are to be
imposed on the property line that they be enclosed on three sides
so that the fumes will not blow directly onto the properties to
the west; also, that the structures parallel to South Elati Drive
be two-story in height.
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Linda Lutz, 5165 South Elati Drive, was sworn in, and testified
that she is aware that there is a high vacancy rate in many
multi-family developments. Considering this high vacancy rate,
she stated that she could not understand why the developer is
considering a development of the density proposed for this site.
Hs. Lutz quoted from an article in the ROCKY HOUNThIN NEWS, which
news article quoted the Lakewood City Manager as stating that
developers can make a profit at 10 units per acre, and discussed
the quality of developments. Hs. Lutz stated that many
developments are of such poor quality that they deteriorate and
"self-destruct" within 25 to 30 years.
Ruth Kelley, 5145 South Elati Drive, was sworn in. Hs. Kelley
presented a display of pictures of their block , which was noted
as Exhibit #1 . Hs. Kelley stated that she has lived at this
address for 24 years. Hs. Kelley stated that she realizes the
residents will have to accept some type of development on the
subject site, but asked that the Commission give consideration to
the imposition of the 45 foot high building directly to the east
of their property line. If the structure could be lowered to two
story it would certainly help the residents along South Elati
Drive.
Pat Smeaton, 5155 South Elati Drive, was sworn in, and testified
that the residents have been fighting the development proposed by
Hr. Hetzel in Littleton for two and one-half years. Ms. Smeaton
stated that the Fire Marshal in Littleton had expressed concern
about adequate access and facilities to service a large apartment
development; she asked about the Englewood Fire Marshal's opinion
on service of an apartment complex in this area. Ms. Smeaton
also discussed the grade of the fire lanes; is it too steep for
the fire vehicles to maneuver, and is it of sufficient width.
Ms. Smeaton noted that the CDH development to the east of
Broadway has a final density of 14 units per acre; the density of
the proposed development is more than two times that of CDH.
Also, all of the residential development is situated to the north
end of the site, abutting the residential development along South
Elati Drive, while the open space is situated to the south end
abutting the South Slope Development, which is multi-family. Ms.
Smeaton stated that it is the opinion of the residents on South
Elati Drive that the proposed development provides a better
buffer between the commercial development of K-Hart and the
proposed apartment development than between the R-3 and the
single-family development on South Elati Drive. Ms. Smeaton
stated that if the traffic signal is installed at Belleview and
South Delaware, this will direct more traffic down South Delaware
Street by the two schools. Ms. Smeaton further discu ssed the
action the homeowners have had to take concerning the development
proposed by Mr. Metzel in Littleton; the determ inatio n of the
City of Littleton approved the multi-family zoning, but with
sufficient restrictions to protect the single-family homeowners.
Hr. Hetzel is now suing the City of Littleton regardi ng this
matter. Ms. Smeaton questioned the validity of the figures
quoted on the trips-per-day originating from the proposed
development.
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Roy Hankle, 5050 South Delaware Street, was sworn in. Hr. Hankle
discussed the traffic congestion which is presently on South
Delaware and West Belleview Avenue, and expressed the opinion
that an acceleration/deceleration lane would not be that much
help. He suggested that another point of ingress/egress to the
site should be investigated. He also advised that traffic
accident records in the vicinity of South Delaware Street and
West Belleview Avenue should be reviewed, noting that there have
been several serious accidents.
Hr. Carson asked if Hr. Hankle was suggesting that the traffic
signal be installed at the present time. Hr. Hankle stated that
he would suggest there is currently a need for signalization of
the intersection. He pointed out that a motorist cannot make a
left-turn from South Delaware Street to east-bound West Belleview
Avenue at the present time.
Roger Newman, 5090 South Elati Street, was sworn in. Hr. Newman
stated that while it does sound as though the developer has
worked closely with the City staff in planning the proposed
development, Hr. Hetzel has not worked with the people who live
in the area abutting or adjoining the site. Hr. Newman suggested
that if the Planned Development is approved there be right-turn
only restrictions into and out of the development. Such a
restriction would alleviate left-turning movements across
Belleview Avenue traffic.
Dave Lone, 5045 South Delaware Street, was sworn in, and stated
he would have to agree with the neighbors that the proposed
development would impose a heavy traffic burden on South Delaware
Street. Hr. Lone stated that it is difficult to make a right
turn from Delaware onto Belleview, let alone a left-turn. Hr.
Lone stated that he feels the density proposed in the development
is very high and is opposed to the Planned Development.
Hr. Stoel asked if there was anyone else in the audience who
wished to address the Commission, but had not signed in. No one
else indicated they wanted to address the Commission.
Hr. Wagner asked if he could rebut some of the comments opponents
had made. Hr. Wagner emphased that the structure on the west
side of the site which is parallel to South Elati Drive will be
set back 100 feet from the property line. The ends of the
structures will be two-stories, stepping up to three story
maximum. The structures are all designed with a "stepped" back
aspect rather than the "block" design. Hr. Wagner stated that
the southern portion of the site, along Big Dry Creek, is part of
the 100-year flood plain for the Creek, and will be heavily
landscaped and used for open space/recreational purposes. The
landscaping shown on the plot plans is also their landscaping
plan, and has been approved by the City staff.
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Mr. Wagner stated that the developer is also concerned about the
traffic congestion, and this is the reason for the provision of
the acceleration/deceleration lane along the frontage of the
site. The State Highway Department has stated that they will not
approve the installation of a traffic signal at the South
Delaware Street and West Belleview Avenue intersection; the
developer has agreed to a study of the traffic pattern for up to
two years after the issuance of the final Certificate of
Occupancy, and if warrants for the installation of a signal are
met, will cooperate with the City in the instal l ation of the
signal. Mr. Wagner stated that the City of Englewood does have
the final determination on installation of a traffic signal, and
can over-rule the State Highway Department. Mr. Wagner stated
that regarding addition~l points of access, the more points of
access there are to the site, the more problems of traffic
congestion could result. Hr. Wagner disputed the "canyon" effect
that residents raised, noting that the height of the structure is
only approximtely 40 feet at the ridge, it is n o t a three story
block building that will be facing the neighbors . The
development is not low quality, and will not "self-destruct" in
25 to 30 years.
Mr. Stoel inquired about the width of the landscaping strip
abutting the property on the east side of South Elati Drive. Hr.
Wagner stated that the landscaping will be 25 feet in width; they
were also proposing a six foot high cedar fence which will be on
the property line. The carports will have sloping roofs, with
the west side of the carport only about four feet in height, and
the height at the point of access approximately seven feet in
height. The carports will be of the same constr u ction as the
apartment units. The carports will not be henclosed".
Discussion ensued on the location of the two sto r y buildings.
Mr. Wagner noted that the slide which has been shown on the
screen is of a 36 unit building; they have 44 unit buildings
which are two story on the ends, stepping up to thr ee story
toward the center. They did not do slides of t he various sizes
of structures, but only of a "typical" structu re.
Hr. Allen asked about the street light; Hr. Wagn er has stated
during the course of the meeting that the deve loper will "help"
with the installation of such a light, but the staf f report
states that it will be "installed" by the deve loper. Mr. Wagner
stated that the developer will participate in the installation of
the li g ht. Mr. Wagoner also stated that the interi or roadways
will be finished with gray asphalt, not concr ete.
Hr. Mesa asked if consideration had been given to p roviding
access from the south end of the development. Hr . Wagner pointed
o u t that the only point of adjacency with Lehow Av enue and the
su bj ec t site is where Big Dry Creek goes unde r Leh ow Avenue, and
t hey cannot get access at that point, also the re i s a very steep
grade o n the site on the southern part.
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Mr. Beier asked if an up-dated traffic study had been considered.
He stated that he would have to agree that the figures used on
trips generated during a given time period were "preposterous".
Mr. Wagner stated that the figures used were from the State
Highway Department, but the developer will work with the City on
resolving the traffic issue. Mr. Beier asked how old these
traffic figures from the State Highway Department were. Mr.
Wagner stated that they are 1984 figures.
Hr. Beier asked what provision had been made for emergency
vehicle access if there is no traffic signal and heavy traffic
congestion on the street. Hr. Wagner stated that he had
discussed access by emergency vehicles with the Fire Marshal, who
saw no problem with the access as designed.
Hr. Mesa stated that he is concerned about impacting Belleview
Avenue with further traffic in light of the State Highway
Department's intention of closing off a number of streets
intersecting with Santa Fe Drive. He suggested that the closure
of these intersections would throw more traffic onto streets such
as Belleview Avenue.
Mr. Wagner pointed out that the proposed development will contain
30% less traffic than it would handle if built to the maximum
allowed under the R-3 Zone District. The developer has tried to
design the project so it will be feasible financially, and still
be workable for the City and neighborhood.
Hs. King presented the elevations of the 44-unit buildings to the
Commission for their consideration.
Hr. Carson stated that he is also concerned about the traffic,
an.d that the installation of a traffic light should be the
financial responsibility of the developer; the City taxpayers
should not have to pay for it. Hr. Carson then inquired about
trash pickup and storage. Mr. Wagner stated that there will be
screened trash dumpster sites throughout the development.
Carson moved:
Allen seconded: The Public Hearing be closed.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Mesa, Stoel, Allen, Barbre,Beier, Carson Gourdin
None
Magnuson
None
The motion carried.
Mr. Carson stated that he felt there is a need for more feed back
from the Fire Department on the matter of access for emergency
vehicles. He is also of the opinion the developer should pay for
the traffic signal at South Delaware Street and West Belleview
Avenue, if installation of such a signal is warranted.
Discussion ensued.
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Ms. King stated that in the past, a developer has provided the
cost of materials for a traffic signal, and the City has provided
the actual installation; Traffic Engineer Plizga has mentioned,
however, that he did not know how long this policy could be in
effect because of a shortage of staff time available for
installation work. Further discussion ensued.
Mr. Gourdin pointed out that one of the citizens addressing the
Commission suggested that left-turn movements be prohibited at
this intersection; this could help alleviate traffic problems in
the interim until a determination is made on signalization. Mr.
Stoel suggested that this should be part of the total traffic
study.
Mr. Mesa stated that if a traffic signal is to be installed, he
would be in favor of the installation at the present time. He
pointed out that there will be increased congestion during
construction of the development. Mr. Mesa urged that an up-dated
traffic study be submitted.
Mr. Stoel disagreed that traffic on Belleview Avenue would
increase because of intersection closures at Santa Fe Drive; he
stated that he felt there will have to be provision of
over-passes or under-passes to handle the traffic from some of
the streets presently intersecting with Santa Fe Drive. He
questioned that the intersection closures would have that much
impact on West Belleview Avenue. Mr. Stoel stated that he is
concerned about traffic, but does feel that the developer has
made an effort to meet every requirement in the Zoning Ordinance.
He stated that he is of the opinion that consideration has been
given to the residential neighbors to the west, as well as to the
commercial development to the east. He stated that he feels the
layout of the project indicates a quality life-style for the
residents of the project, and that as the landscaping which is
proposed matures on the site, it will be a benefit to the
residents on the west side of the project. Mr. Stoel reiterated
that he feels it is a quality project, and he will be voting in
favor of it; he does feel, however, that the developer should pay
for the installation of the traffic signal.
Mr. Allen stated that his main concern is traff i c ; there should
be another point of access from the south; these are volatile
buildings and he could see there might be a problem with fire
access.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that there is provision for emergency
access through the South Slope Condominium development via the
east fire lane and a crash gate to the subject site; this crash
gate would be on the southeast corner of this site. Mr. Wagner
stated that this means of access had been discussed earlier, and
the Fire Department had stated that they no longer needed that
point of access. However, if the Commission so desires, the
developer is willing to make provision for such access from the
south.
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Mr. Allen asked about the location of fire plugs on the site.
Mr. Wagner stated that they are working with the Fire Department
on the location of the plugs on the site.
Carson moved:
Allen seconded: The Planning Commission approve and ref er to
City Council the Planned Development for 300
West Belleview Avenue with the following
stipulations:
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
1. The traffic on West Belleview Avenue shall
be monitored for two years following the
issuance of the final Certificate of
Occupancy; if a traffic signal is warranted at
the South Delaware Street-West Belleview
Avenue intersection, it shall be installed at
the expense of the developer.
2. A fire crash gate access shall be
installed on the southeast corner of the
property to provide emergency access from the
south through the South Slope development via
the east fire lane.
Stoel, Allen, Barbre,
None
Beier, Carson, Gourdin, Mesa
Magnuson
None
The motion carried.
v. SUBDIVISION WAIVER
Public Service Co.
CASE #35-85
Hrs. Romans stated that Public Service Company is the applicant
for a waiver to the Subdivision Regulations. One parcel is to be
sold; but because no rights-of-way or easements are required, the
staff did not feel it was necessary to go through the process of
a formal subdivision plat.
Hr. Bill Davies, Senior Real Estate Agent for Public Service
Company, was present and stated that he would answer questions;
the staff report covered the situation quite well, and he had
nothing further to add. In response to a question from Hr.
Carson, Hr. Davies stated that he agreed with the staff report as
written.
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Carson moved:
Gourd~n seconded: The Planning Commission approve the waiver to
the Subdivision Regulations for property in
the 4600 block of South Santa Fe Drive on the
west side of the st reet as set forth in Case
#35-85.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Allen, Barbre, Beier, Carson, Gourdin, Mesa, Stoel
None
Magnuson
None
The motion carried.
VI. PUBLIC FORUM.
There was no one present to address the Commission.
VII. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mrs. Romans stated that after the packet had been sent to the
Commission, a letter was received from the Del Webb Co.
requesting approval of a private prison at 2750 South Shoshone
Street. Mrs. Romans read the letter into the record. This
property is in northwest Englewood. It appears that with the
problems the State of Colorado and other jurisdictions are is
having in building public prisons, that there are groups,
companies, or corporations who are interested in building
"private" prisons and leasing the facilities to governmental
agencies. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Barbre asked about the criteria on security that must be
installed in such a use. Mrs. Romans stated that she did not
know what the security criteria is, but she will try to get more
information if the Commission wants to pursue this matter. Mr.
Carson stated that he would like to know more about the private
prison issue. Further discussion ensued.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the use would not be
permitted in the I-1, Light Industrial District.
Mrs. Romans stated that at the City Council meeting of November
18 1 the Council approved the Subdivision Plat filed by General
Iron Works; Council also approved the Subdivision Plat and
Tidwell Planned Development for property on South Decatur Street.
Mr. Allen asked what has happened to the development on the old
KL2 site. Hrs. Romans stated that a second public hearing has
been scheduled before City Council on November 25, 1985 .
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Mr. Stoel asked if there was any further information about
Councilman Higday's letter which was written to the Commission.
Mrs. Romans stated that she had written to City Manager Mccown
asking for clarification of Councilman Higday's comments
regarding Planning Commission decisions; in reply, City Manager
Mccown indicated that Councilman Higday had made his point in the
letter and he felt it would not be necessary to expand on it
further. Discussion ensued.
VII. COMMISSION'S CHOICE.
Hr. Allen stated that he and Hr. Gourdin attended the Planning
Commissioner's Seminar at Keystone. Hr. Gourdin stated that he
felt the session was very informative, and gave xeroxed copies of
some of the articles to the other members of the Commission. Hr.
Allen stated that he also discussed the issue of trash disposal
with other Commissioners attending the meeting.
Hr. Carson asked what progress has been made on the annexation of
some sites on southwest Englewood. Hrs. Romans stated that
meetings have not yet been scheduled. Hr. Carson stated that he
would like to invite the property owners of these areas to an
informal meerting to discuss the pros and cons of annexation.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that the people in at least one of the
areas have strenuously opposed annexation to the City of
Englewood in the past; but a meeting will be scheduled.
Hr. Mesa asked that staff look into the possibility of obtaining
a small desk lamp for the podium; he noted that it was difficult
for Hr. Wagner to see his notes during the slide show when the
lights were out.
There being nothing further to come before the Commission, the
meeting was declared adjourned at 9:00 P. H.
Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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