HomeMy WebLinkAbout1979-07-17 PZC MINUTESCITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
• July 17, 1979
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I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 7:10 P.M. by Chairman Tanguma.
Members present: Draper, Carson, Lathrop, Tanguma, Bilo,
Becker, Smith
Romans, Acting Ex-officio
Members absent: Pierson, Williams
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman Tanguma stated that Minutes of June 19, 1979, were
to be considered for approval.
Draper moved:
Lathrop seconded : The Minutes of June 19, 1979, be approved
as presented.
AYES: Draper, Lathrop, Tanguma, Becker, Bilo, Carson
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Smith
ABSENT: Pierson, Williams
The motion carried.
III. CENTENNIAL SOUTH SUBDIVISION
West Union Avenue/South
Decatur Street.
Chairman Tanguma asked for the staff report.
CASE #14-79
Mrs. Romans stated that the Commission has before it the Final
Plat of the proposed Centennial South Subdivision. Public
Hearing on the Preliminary Plat was held on June 19, 1979, at
which time the Preliminary Plat was approved by the Commission,
and the applicant was directed to prepare the Final Plat in-
corporating changes and suggestions made and discussed during
the course of the Public Hearing.
If the Planning Commission approves the Final Plat, and recom-
mends said Final Plat to City Council, the City Council may
choose to hold a Public Hearing on the Plat, but it is not
required. At such time as the Final Plat is approved by the
City Council, it would be recorded in the office of the
Arapahoe County Clerk and Recorder. The applicant has pre-
sented two signed reproducible copies of the Final Plat for
purposes of recording. Mrs. Romans noted that the applicant
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has included on the Final Plat the changes that were suggested
at the Public Hearing, such as the 25 foot easement from the
cul-de-sac west to South Decatur Street for the water and sewer •
line.
Mrs. Pierson entered and took her place with the Commission.
Mrs. Romans stated that Public Service Company has asked for
a 10-foot easement on the south side of the property where it
abuts the single-family residential district; this has also
been provided by the applicant.
Mrs. Romans stated that it appears that the requirements of
the Subdivision Regulations have been met by the applicant,
and that the Final Plat is in order for approval.
Mrs. Romans stated that at the Public Hearing there was some
concern voiced over a 14-inch "raw water" line which is shown
located in South Decatur Street. This has been checked with
the Utility Department and it is a 14-inch treated water line,
and is the line that the development will hook onto.
As to sanitary sewer service, the applicant was prepared to
go before the Valley Sanitation District Board of Directors
on July 10th to request sewer service, but was informed that
there was no need to do so because the property was already
within that district. However, on July 11th, the developer
was notified that only the west one-half of the property was
in the Valley Sanitation District; the east one-half was not.
Mrs. Romans stated that she has a letter from Ms. Bonnie Brown,
the Business Manager of the Valley Sanitation District, and
that the Engineering Division has also been in touch with the
Valley Sanitation District Engineer; they see no problem with
the District providing service to the property. The matter
has also been discussed with the City Attorney and Utilities
Director, and appears to be under control.
Mr. Carson asked if the developer has complied with the sug-
gestions from Public Service Company on service across Lot #9?
Mrs. Romans stated that there will be service available from
the street, and no Public Service Company line will cross
Lot #9.
Mr. Smith asked about the cul-de-sac; whether objections
registered by the Fire Department have been resolved. Mrs.
Romans pointed out that this cul-de-sac has a 90-foot radius,
which the Fire Department has stated is adequate for turning
their equipment. Other cul-de-sacs have been approved through-
out the City, most recently in the Timber Lea Planned Develop-
ment. She pointed out that this is the first time the Fire
Department has objected to a cul-de-sac in a development. Mrs.
Romans emphasized the location of two fire hydrants which will
be in the development, the fact that the flow of water is •
adequate, and the fact that the cul-de-sac does have a 90-foot
radius. The Fire Department had wanted to see an "L"-shaped
street, which met with objection from the Engineering and
Traffic Divisions.
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Mrs. Pierson stated that she did not see that there was a
problem with the cul-de-sac; at the very worst, the fire truck
would have to be backed out after the fire was extinguished,
but there would be adequate access to fight the fire.
Mr. Draper stated he understood that the objection was that
the Fire Department would prefer to be able to combat a fire
from both the front and rear of a property. Mrs. Becker
questioned this rationale, pointing out other areas in the
City that do not have access to both the front and rear of
the properties.
Mr. Tanguma asked if there was a fire hydrant on South Decatur
Street? Mrs. Romans stated there is one on South Decatur
Street at Tanforan.
Mr. Lathrop pointed out there was a cul-de-sac in the 4400
block of South Galapago Street that has an inside radius of
45 feet. Discussion ensued.
Carson moved:
Lathrop seconded: The Planning Commission approve the Final
Plat of the Centennial South Subdivision,
Case #14-79, and refer said Final Plat to
City Council for review and approval.
AYES: Carson, Draper, Lathrop, Pierson, Tanguma, Becker, Bilo
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Smith
ABSENT: Williams
The motion carried.
IV. RIGHT-OF-WAY VACATION
3200 Block South Clarkson
CASE #17-79
Mr. Lathrop stated that he was directly involved in this re-
quest, and would remove himself from consideration of this
matter. He then left the room during consideration of the
request.
Mr. Tanguma asked for the staff report.
Mrs. Romans stated that residents on the west side of South
Clarkson Street in the 3200 block have requested that the ex-
cess right-of-way be vacated for their use. South Clarkson
Street, designated as a Collector north of U.S. 285, has 81.15
feet of right-of-way at East Eastman Avenue, and 82.25 feet of
right-of-way at East Floyd Avenue. South Clarkson Street has
been in a Paving District and there are no plans to increase
the paving width further. Mrs. Romans stated that the recom-
mended vacation would be 15 feet at East Eastman Avenue, to
widen to 18 feet at East Floyd Avenue. The request was referred
to the various City Departments; no objections have been voiced,
but a request was submitted to maintain an easement through the
vacated right-of-way.
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The staff recommends that the Planning Commission refer the
request to City Council with a favorable recommendation. Mrs. •
Romans emphasized there would be no physical change in the
street or curb and gutter. The adjoining property owners
would be able to make use of the vacated right-of-way, but
would not be allowed to construct over the vacated right-of-way
if the easement is retained.
Draper moved:
Becker seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City
Council that the excess right-of-way on the
west side of the 3200 block South Clarkson
Street be vacated, and that an easement be
retained to provide access to utility service
lines.
AYES: Bilo, Carson, Draper, Pierson, Smith, Tanguma, Becker
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Lathrop, Williams
The motion carried.
Mr. Lathrop entered and took his seat with the Commission.
V. USE NOT MENTIONED CASE #18-79
Relocation of Klode's Auto Service
Mr. Tanguma asked for the staff report.
Mrs. Romans stated that in 1974, the City Planning and Zoning
Commission granted permission to use property at 2650-2676
West Union Avenue as a damage appraisal storage yard for
vehicles. The property owner was Mr. and Mrs. Bussard, and
the manager of Klode's Auto Service was Mr. Ronald C. Dendorfer.
The applicant stated at that time there would be no sales from
this lot, and no parts were to be removed from the vehicles
for sale at this lot or at another location. The vehicles
were to be held at this location until an insurance adjuster
had appraised the vehicle.
It was felt that this use was different from a typical auto
wrecking yard, and the Commission put restrictions on the use
stating that the lot shall be enclosed on its perimeter with
a solid or closed-face opaque vertical wall or fence, minimum
height of six feet, maximum height of twelve feet; no advertising
sign or poster other than an identification sign would be
allowed on the fence or gates to the lot; no sales of the
vehicles or of parts of the vehicles should be conducted; no
vehicle shall be disassembled to be used as parts for another
vehicle, and no parts shall be sold at another location; no
vehicle should be stored longer than 90 days; there should be
no more than 175 cars stored on the lot at any one time, and ~
the opaque fencing should be completed within 90 days of the ,_,
time of approval.
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However, this use has proven to be not unlike an auto wrecking
yard with the problems that have been experienced: vehicles
are dropped off which block the right-of-way, the fencing is
in poor repair, and numerous complaints have been registered
about the operation. Mrs. Romans stated that the owner was
told in 1974 that a chain-link with slats woven through would
suffice for a closed-face fence. This has proven to be very
unsatisfactory. Mrs. Romans displayed pictures of the existing
operation to the Commission, and also displayed pictures of
the proposed relocation site to the Commission.
When it was indicated that the applicant wanted to relocate to
a larger site to the east of the existing operation, the staff
felt that inasmuch as the Commission had given approval for the
operation at a specific address --2650/2676 West Union Avenue,
and the operation was approved to be operated by a specific
person --that the Commission should logically consider the
request for relocation. It was not something that should be
handled administratively.
Mrs. RomMis reiterated that there have been numerous complaints
registered on this operation, and tbat it has not proven to be
a desirable use for this area. She pointed out that West Belleview
Avenue will be closed shortly for a several month period, and
that West Union Avenue will have to carry an increased load of
traffic during this time; vehicles that are dropped off and
block the right-of-way would be a hazard and cause severe in-
convenience.
The staff does not feel that the relocation of the operation
should be approved. People in this area are attempting to up-
grade their properties, and several have contacted the office
to protest the proposal. They feel the City was in error in
allowing the operation at 2650/2676 West Union Avenue to begin
with. However, if the Commission does determine that the use
should be relocated, the staff would request that restrictions
be placed on the operation at the new site:
1. That an on-site enclosed drop station be provided so that
vehicles will not be dropped off in the right-of-way.
2. That the perimeter of the property will be enclosed with
a solid, non-transparent vertical wall or fence with a
minimum height of six (6) feet and a maximum height of
twelve (12) feet measured from ground level; said fence
shall not be of woven wire or chain link material, or
woven wire or chain link interwoven with metal, plastic
or wooden slats. Every gate shall be of solid, opaque
construction and shall be the same height as the wall or
fence.
3. No advertising sign or poster other than that needed to
identify the enclosed business shall be on the wall or
fence or on any gate or entrance to the business.
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4. No sales of any or all of the vehicles, or any or all of
the parts of the vehicles shall be associated with the
service and appraisal operation at the subject location.
5. No vehicle shall be disassembled, either partially or
wholly, to be used as parts for another vehicle and no
vehicle shall be disassembled at this location for parts
to be sold at another location.
6. Vehicles shall be stored a maximum of 90 days, and a
maximum of 175 vehicles stored on the lot at any one
time.
The staff further suggests that if the relocation is approved
by the Commission, that the solid fence be installed prior to
c ommencement of the operation on the new site.
Mrs . Becker asked if this use was permitted in any Zone District
in the City? Mrs. Roman s stated that it is not set forth as a
P erm itted Use in the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance. She pointed
out that the I -1 Zone District does permit auto wrecking yards
as a Conditional Use; however, there are size limitations on
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auto wrecking yards in the I-1 District, and the proposed site
for relocation would exceed the maximum size allowed.
Mr. Sm ith asked for clarification on the fencing requirements
proposed now over what was proposed in 1974? Mrs. Romans
stated that in 1974, the Chief Building Official felt that a
chain-link fence with interwoven slats served as a "closed-face
f ence", and it was approved. The person in that position at
this time disagrees that it is a "closed-face fence", and would
requ ire a "solid" fence or wall of wood, block, concrete or
brick material.
Mr . Draper asked for clarification of the analysis in the staff
report. Mrs. Romans stated that the point made in the staff
analysis is that it is the responsibility of the Planning Com-
mission to approve, or disapprove, the request for relocation;
i t cannot be handled administratively. Mr. Draper asked whether
the operation could continue at the present site if the request
for relocation is denied. Mrs. Romans stated that it is her
opinion that they could continue the operation at 2650/2676 West
Union A venue.
Mr . Tanguma asked if the applicant was present and wished to
address the Commission?
Mr. Eric R. Dendorfer stated that he and his father are the
owners of Klode's Auto Service, and that they have considered
and are pres ent ly considering several locations for expansion
--not only this site at 4607 South Santa Fe Drive. He emphasized
that they are interested in several sites, and were not prepared
to be on the agenda for this meeting. He stated that they would
like an opportunity to review the complaints that have been
lodged against th eir operation. Mr. Dendorfer stated that they
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must consider the cost factors; they have to determine if the
property could be economically used for this purpose. Mr.
Dendorfer emphasized that they are not in the position at this
time to say that this is the piece of property they want to
relocate to. He stated that they were unaware they had been
placed on the agenda until they received a copy of the agenda
and staff report in yesterday's mail (Monday, July 16th). He
stated that they would probably not be ready to appear on a
relocation request for at least another 30 days.
Smith moved:
Bilo seconded: Case #19-79 be postponed.
AYES: Becker, Bilo, Carson, Draper, Lathrop, Pierson, Smith,
Tanguma
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Williams.
The motion carried.
Mr. Dendorfer asked the Commission what they wanted. Mr.
Smith recommended that Mr. Dendorfer contact Mrs. Romans to
review the complaints and determine what might be done to
reach a solution to the problems.
Mr. Wm. J. Horner stated that he is the property owner at
4607 South Santa Fe Drive; he is opposed to this proposed use,
and will attempt to preclude any consideration of this type of
use on his property.
Mr. Ernest Saucer stated that he owns property on the south
side of the proposed site. He stated that he understood that
no sale of vehicles or parts was to take place on the existing
site, and stated that he understands there are auctions of the
vehicles every two weeks or so. He asked if this is correct?
Mr. Ronald Dendorfer stated that the insurance companies take
sealed bids on the vehicles at this location. He emphasized
that many of the vehicles are salvage vehicles, and they do
solicit bids but do not sell from that site.
Mr. Smith stated it is his feeling that if someone accepts
bids on something, it i~ for sale. Under the restrictions
imposed on the operation in 1974, there was to be no sale of
the vehicles or any parts of the vehicles. He felt this was
in violation of the restrictions imposed, and is a point to
be discussed with the staff.
Mr. Saucer stated that there is an easement across the proposed
site, and was wondering if the Messrs. Dendorfer were aware of
it? Mr. Dendorfer stated that they are aware of the easement.
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VI. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mrs. Romans presented Planning Commission members with copies ~
of the published Comprehensive Plan, which was approved by
the Commission on April 24, 1979. She stated there have been
no changes in the text of the document, but photographs and
sketches have been added. Mrs. Romans stated that Planning
Assistant Barbara Young did most of the photography and all
of the sketches; Planning Assistant Mark Barber did the graphics;
Gertrude Welty was responsible for the typing, and Mr. Peter
Spaeth did the printing of the document.
Mrs. Romans noted that the Commission ·had asked for a special
meeting to present the document to City Council, and asked if
this was still the desire of the Commission?
Mr. Bilo stated that he felt the staff was to be commended
on the finished Comprehensive Plan document.
Discussion ensued. Mrs. Pierson stated that she understood
Mr. Jimmy Durante's quote: "Don't put no restrictions on da
people. Leave them ta hell alone" was to be included in the
document. Further discussion ensued. ·
Pierson moved:
Becker seconded: The quote from Mr. Jimmy Durante, "Don't put
no restrictions on da people. Leave them ta
h---alone," be included on a separate page
as an afterword, said quotation to be in 2 11
letters.
Mr. Smith stated that he found this objectionable. He stated
that the finished document is a very professional job, and he
felt it would be a shame to include something like this quote
in this Plan. Mrs. Pierson disagreed; she stated that she did
not feel people would be offended by such a quotation. Mr.
Lathrop stated that he would agree with Mr. Smith; the staff
had done a very beautiful job on the final document, and he
did not want to add anything to it, or to take anything from
it.
The vote was called:
AYES: Becker, Bilo, Pierson, Tanguma
NAYS: Carson, Draper, Lathrop, Smith
ABSENT: Williams
Chairman Tanguma declared the motion defeated.
Mrs. Romans stated that the Planning Commission had indicated
they did not want to meet during the month of August. She
asked if they wanted to set a special meeting with the City
Council sometime in August, or perhaps in the latter part of
July?
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Mr. Smith reviewed the calendar for the City Council for the
remainder of July, and suggested that perhaps the Commission
would want to meet with the City Council at the regular meeting
of August 6, 1979.
Mr. Draper asked for a definition of "commercial corridors";
he felt this was a new term that was included in the Plan, and
he is not familiar with it and questioned that anyone else
would be. Mrs. Romans stated that the term "commercial corridors"
has been used since the revision of the Plan began, and that it
is indeed defined in the first sentence of that section of the
Plan and made clear by referring to the Commercial Corridor
map. Brief discussion followed.
Discussion on the presentation date to City Council was
resumed. Mr. Smith suggested that perhaps the Commission
could be scheduled for pre-scheduled visitors, make the
presentation of the Comprehensive Plan, and not have to re-
main for the entire meeting unless they chose to do so. It
was the concensus of the Commission that this would be the
route to follow for the presentation of the Plan.
Mr. Tanguma suggested that letters be sent to the people who
actively participated on the review committees, inviting them
to the formal presentation to City Council.
Mrs. Romans stated that she had nothing else to bring to the
Commission.
VII. COMMISSION'S CHOICE.
No member of the Commission had any matter to be discussed
under Commission's choice.
The meeting adjourned at 8:30 P. M .
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MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION
OR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
DATE: July 17, 1979
SUBJECT: Centennial South Subdivision -Final Plat
RECOMMENDATION:
Carson moved:
Lathrop seconded: The Planning Commission approve the Final
Plat of the Centennial South Subdivision,
Case #14-79, and refer said Final Plat to
City Council for review and approval.
AYES: Carson, Draper, Lathrop, Pierson, Tanguma, Becker, Bilo
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Smith
ABSENT: Williams
The motion carried.
By Order of the City Planning & Zoning Commission.
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MEMORANDUM TO THE ENGLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTION
OR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION •
DATE: July 17, 1979
SUBJECT: Vacation of Right-of-way -3200 Block South
Clarkson Street
RECOMMENDATION:
Draper moved:
Becker seconded: The Planning Commission recommend to City
Council that the excess right-of-way on the
west side of the 3200 block South Clarkson
Street be vacated, and that an easement be
retained to provide access to utility service
lines.
AYES: Bilo, Carson, Draper, Pierson, Smith, Tanguma, Becker
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Lathrop, Williams
The motion carried.
By Order of the City Planning & Zoning Commission
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