HomeMy WebLinkAbout1979-02-27 PZC MINUTES,
CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
February 27, 1979
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5:30 P. M.
The members of the City Planning and Zoning Commission met
with members of the Englewood Board of Adjustment and Appeals
in the Library Conference Room at 5:30 P~ M. for dinner.
Planning Commission members present: Smith, Carson, Pierson,
Becker, Lathrop, Bi lo
Planning Commission members absent: Tanguma, Draper, Williams
Board of Adjustment members present: Leonard, Brown, Dawson,
Kreiling, Oliver, Seymour
Board of Adjustment members absent: Pratt
Staff members present: Director of Community Development Wanush
Assistant Director Dorothy Romans
Chief Building Inspector Pittman
Building Division Secretary Valerie Christy
Mr.Lathrop, Vice-Chairman of the Planning Commission, extended
a welcome to the members of the Board of Adjustment and Appeals,
and stated that dinner would be served and discussion would
follow the dinner.
Mr. Tanguma entered the meeting at 6:05 P. M., and assumed the
Chairmanship of the Planning Commission. He asked Mr. Wanush
to present the program for the discussion.
Mr. Wanush stated that he feels the Boards and Commissions
should meet periodically to discuss mutual problems and projects
that may be underway that will have an effect on matters that
may be before another Board or Commission. He stated that tbe
Planning Commission, with input from several advisory committees,
is involved in the revision of the Comprehensive Plan at the
present time, and that this will ultimately lead to a revision
of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance to reflect the changes
recommended in the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Wanush referred to maps which were displayed, which indicated
the projected land use as reflected by the various review com-
mittee repo~ts, and a second map which reflected deteriorating
structures.
Mr. Wanush stated that changes in the Comprehensive Zoning
Ordinance could include the drafting of a Special Permit System
to give a degree of flexibility to the uses permitted in specific
zone districts. Also under consideration is a possible way to
amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance to allow an administra-
tive process to solve some of the problems experienced by the
citizenry on such things as setback, lot coverage, etc. This
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would not pre-empt appeals to the
for some minor variance such as a
or something similar, it was felt
handled administratively .
Mr. Tanguma asked for discussion.
Board of Adjustment, but
couple of feet on a setback
that possibly it could be
Mr. Brown stated that the Board has a lot of requests for
variances on lot size; the Board has granted a lot of these
requests, and pointed out that the City is land-locked and no
additional land for development is available. He asked if
there was any record on the number of homes that have been
built once the variance has been given? Mr . Wanush stated
that the records of the Building Division would have to be
researched.
Mr. Brown then asked for the latest information on the Larwin
site. Mr. Wanush stated that there is an application for an
amendment to the Subdivision Waiver that will be considered on
March 20th; the new property owner is planning to build the
1100 units that were authorized under the Subdivision Waiver
approved in 1972. Mr. Wanush stated that there would be more
open space and a different type of construction under the re-
vised plan and that in his opinion, it would be a better plan
than that originally considered.
Mr. Seymour stated that the Board has considered a lot of
variances on over-lot coverage, particularly in the northeast
area of Englewood; another matter before the Board on a fairly
regular basis is the setback for porches. These requests are,
again, concentrated in a particular area of town. Mr. Seymour
stated that other problems that recur regularly are owners of
car lots along Broadway wanting to expand across the alley;
the matter of day care centers, and fence heights. Discussion
ensued.
Mr. Oliver stated that he felt two of the problems that must
be faced are (1) the encroachment of commercial development
into the residential area, and (2) the matter of restrictive
zoning --permitting only one particular use in a particular
zone district . He stated that he felt one of the real problems
is that of the strip commercial development along South Broadway.
He stated that cities have catered to the "linear" development,
and have allowed this type of development to "ruin the cities".
He suggested that this strip commercial should not be allowed,
but rather commercial developments should be concentrated in
one particular area; that a "pocket" of commercial use should
be permitted with limited perimeters.
Board of Adjustment member Harvey Pratt entered the meeting
at 6:40 P. M.
Mr. Wanush stated that he felt Mr. Oliver's suggestions fit in
with what the commercial review committee recommended when they
talked about "nodes" of commercial development. Further dis-
cussion ensued.
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Mr. Oliver asked what sort of information was available to en-
able the staff to determine which houses were sub-standard and/
or deteriorating? Mr. Wanush stated that information in the
office was available on lot size, assessment information, et~
Mrs. Romans indicated that on the land use maps, the condition
of the structures is also indicated. It was pointed out that
an actual field survey is also being done to more accurately
pinpoint the problem areas. ·
Mr. Smith discussed ways of encouraging home ownership, such
as placing a surtax on rental units. He stated that in other
parts of the country this is done, and taxes can be reduced by
50% if the structure is owner-occupied. The constitutionality
of this was questioned by Mrs. Pierson and others. Mr. Smith
stated that it is something similar to the "homestead act",
and is being done. Mr. Smith stated that the crime rate in
Englewood has increased since Cinderella City was developed,
because Cinderella City has attracted a high concentration of
transient people, and that in his opinion, the crime rate
rises when there are concentrations of transient people. If
home ownership were to be encouraged, and the transient popula-
tion decreased, he felt the crime rate would show a corresponding
decrease.
Mr. Bilo stated that he would be interested in getting the
opinion of the Board on the Bonus District proposed in some
of the low-density areas of the City. Mr. Oliver stated that
he felt this might result in "a lot of flack from the neighbors",
and that it might be interpreted as "spot zoning".
Mrs. Romans pointed out that experience has shown that when a
situation is bad enough, the neighbors will approve even things
like three-story walk-up apartments. She cited the old North
School in the 3000 block of South Bannock Street, the Hawthorne
School in the 4100 block of South Bannock Street, and the two
houses in the 4000 block of South Bannock Street. All of these
structures had been of serious concern to the neighborhood, and
when developers proposed multi-family zoning so these buildings
could be removed and replaced with three-story walk-up apart-
ment structures, the neighbors approved. She pointed out that
the proposed Bonus District would restrict the density to no
more than two units on a 6000 square foot lot, a density which
would hopefully give the owner an incentive to replace a bad
structure that cannot be rehabilitated.
Mr. Oliver stated that the proposal sounds like a good idea,
but that he still fears there will be a lot of opposition.
He asked if it was the proper answer to the problem to allow
duplex development, or could there perhaps be a form of tax
relief for a given number of years if a bad unit was removed
and replaced with a new single-family unit? Discussion ensued.
Mr. Wanush pointed out that economic pressure will dictate what
happens in any given situation.
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Mr. Tanguma asked that the Board of Adjustment give hso~e ~hougtht
and study to this proposal and give the Commission t eir inpu •
Mr. Bilo stated that he did not feel that matters like the_d~op
in school enrollment is peculiar to Englewood, that communities
are facing this same problem across the nation. He stated that
he felt other problems in Englewood are similar to those across
the country, also. Discussion ensued.
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The session recessed at 7:00 P. M.
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The meeting reconvened at 7:15 P.M. for the Planning Commission
study session .
Members present: Becker, Bilo, Carson, Lathrop, Pierson, Smith,
Tanguma
Wanush, Ex-officio
Members absent: Draper, Williams
Also present: Assistant Director Romans, Associate Planner
Fessenden, Planning Assistant Barber, Planning
Assistant Young.
II. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
Mr. Tanguma stated that the Commission was meeting in study
session to review the summaries of the Comprehensive Plan.
Mrs. Romans stated that the INDUSTRIAL Committee was chaired
by Mrs. Pierson, and that Mrs. Young has been asked to present
the summary of that report.
Planning Assistant Young stated that Mrs. Pierson's Committee
reviewed both the Industrial and strip Commercial districts,
and that some of the same problems were found in these two
districts. Some areas were found to be more commercial in
nature even though they are zoned for industrial development.
It was suggested that additional flexibility by means of the
Special Permit District or a Mixed Use District could encourage
development in some part :;~ .. • .•. .L· a reas. Many of the industrial
areas are unsubdividea and have limited or no access, and while
there is a need for large industrial developments, access must
be provided. There is the problem of large parking lots and
the visual impact they have on the surrounding area because
landscaping and open space provisions are not required in the ~
industrial districts except where they abut or are adjacent ,_,
to a residential district. The Review Committee felt landscaping and
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open space requirements should be considered to improve the
visual impact of some of the industrial developments. The
goals of the Committee are to provide flexibility in the Com-
prehensive Zoning Ordinance, to provide incentives for develop-
ment and redevelopment, to provide access where needed, and to
encourage development of large ownerships in addition to en-
couraging more appropriate usage of the South Platte River
corridor and the other drainageways along Big Dry Creek and
Little Dry Creek which flow through the industrial zoned area.
Courses of Action suggested including making use of the Special
Permit System and Mixed Use District, encouraging annexation
of land where feasible, incorporating the water and sanitation
districts which serve sections of the City into the City's pro-
gram, developing a program to provide access in unsubdivided
areas to provide means for further development, and encouraging
more visually attractive developments by requiring installation
and maintenance of landscaping particularly where the industrial
district is adjacent to residentially zoned property or adjacent
to arterial streets.
Mrs. Young noted that the map indicates four industrial areas
of the City, each of which has characteristics that differ
from the other. Mrs. Young stated that in the full committee
report each district is analyzed more fully as to means of
encouraging further development.
Mrs. Becker questioned what the committee felt would be more
appropriate use in the South Platte River corridor and adjacent
to Big Dry Creek and Little Dry Creek? Mrs. Pierson stated
that along Little Dry Creek particularly, the committee con-
sidered a greenbelt and bicycle path; this is not reflected :in
the summary, and she felt that it should be.
Mr. Smith discussed the flood control project that is being
designed and the green-way program developed by Denver. He
noted that bicycle trails will connect out to Chatfield, and
that treatment of the tributaries is also included in the plans.
Mr. Wanush questioned if in fact emphasis on flood control
and greenbelts should not be contained in another section
rather than in the Industrial Section of the Comprehensive
Plan? Discussion ensued.
Mrs. Becker asked if Little Dry Creek was going to be a
concrete culvert, and if so, why? Mr. Smith stated that the
creek will be covered for about three blocks; the remainder
of the channel will be open. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Smith asked what response the Committee received from in-
dustrial property owners when the need for open space was dis-
cussed. Mrs. Pierson stated that there were people on her
committee who owned industrial property, and no great opposition
was voiced by those property owners •
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The need for landscaping and open space was discussed further.
Mrs. Romans stated that she felt the primary areas that were
considered were those where an industrial district adjoins or
is adjacent to a residential area or along arterials, and one
of the main points of discussion was the maintenance of land-
scaping once it has been installed. She stated that she did
not recall that the committee got into the matter of a specific
percentage of open space in the industrial area. Mrs. Pierson
pointed out that greenery softens the effect of large parking
lots, and pointed to the parking lot of the First National
Bank, which does have some landscaping.
Further discussion on the maps ensued. Mrs. Romans pointed
out that the Comprehensive Plan sets forth "goals" to work
toward; it does not mean that immediately upon adoption of the
Plan the changes that are proposed will take place. Further
discussion ensued.
The TRANSPORTATION summary was then considered. Mr. Lathrop
chaired this Committee, and gave the summary of the report.
Mr. Lathrop stated that goals set forth by this committee in-
clude development of a one-way couplet using U.S. 285 and West
Ithaca Avenue; supporting improvement of South .Santa Fe Drive
to a six-lane major arterial which would include provisions
for mass transit, high occupancy vehicle lanes, and interchanges
at Dartmouth, U. S. 285, Oxford/Quincy, and Belleview. Alter-
natives to the use of the automobile must be encouraged, and ft ~
was urged that the environmental quality of Englewood as a ~
whole be improved. It was also suggested that high density
residential development be permitted in the downtown area.
Courses of action suggested are to work with DRCOG and the
State in obtaining approval for the one-way couplet, to work
with the State on the improvement of South Santa Fe Drive, to
support RTD in locating a transit center in the downtown area,
and to support increased transit service to residential areas
of Englewood. Provisions for walkways and bicycle paths should
be included in all future transportation planning, and the Com-
prehensive Zoning Ordinance should be amended to permit residential
use in the downtown district. A means to attack the problem of
air pollution must be developed and implemented, and the Com-
mittee recommended the Master Street Plan be approved as indicated
on the map attached to the summary.
Mr. Wanush reviewed the major changes on the Master Street Plan.
Lafayette Street between Floyd Avenue and U.S. 285 is no longer
designated as a collector; Kenyon/Windermere/Navajo routing has
been downgraded to a collector from arterial status. South
Tejon Street between Evans Avenue and Dartmouth Avenue is also
downgraded to a collector. Girard between Broadway and Cinderella
City is designated as a pedestrian and busway; Floyd Avenue is
still projected to cross Santa Fe Drive to tie in with South
Zuni Street. He suggested that the Ithaca Avenue/U. S. 285
couplet should also be indicated on the map. ~
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Mrs. Romans pointed out that the Transportation Committee also
recommended that Bannock/Cherokee be a one-way couplet from
Quincy Avenue to Yale, and both these streets are shown as
collectors on the map. Mr. Smith stated that the possibility
of changing South Bannock to two-way traffic is still being
discussed. He suggested that the residents along South Chero k e e
Street should be notified of this possible change in designa-
tion of their street. Mrs. Romans pointed out that one-way
designations are not made in the Comprehensive Plan, but is
an administrative function assigned to the Traffic Engineer
bas~d on specific warrants. Mr. Wanush suggested that if South
Cherokee is not part of a one-way couplet, it probably should
not be designated as a collector.
Mrs. Pierson expressed concern over the designation of Floyd,
Girard, Hampden and U.S. 285 all being designated as collectors
and/or arterials through the City. Mr. Smith · stated that he
questioned that Floyd Avenue east of South Broadway is, in fact,
a collector; he noted that very little traffic uses that portion
of Floyd Avenue. Mrs. Romans pointed out that this is a direct
route from the Larwin site to Cinderella City, a high-activity
center. Mrs. Romans stated that Floyd Avenue is now designated
as a collector street, and was previously designated as an
arterial. Mr. Smith stated that there is not much traffic that
uses Floyd Avenue between Broadway and Logan. Mrs. Pierson
pointed out that there is good residential development from
University Boulevard to Fox Street along Floyd Avenue. She
questioned the advisability of designating Floyd Avenue as a
collector and imposing traffic alongside this good residential
development. Discussion ensued.
Smith moved: South Cherokee Street be removed as a collector
street from the Master Street Plan.
Mrs. Becker stated that she felt to remove South Cherokee fr o m
the collector street designation would be "sticking our head
in the sand." Mr. Smith stated that designation of these
streets as collectors would encourage deterioration of the
residential areas along the street.
Mr. Wanush stated that in giving streets a specific designation,
the use is dictated to a degree, but the designation also re-
flects what is there now. Mr. Wanush stated that the streets
to carry the traffic must be designated, and efforts made to
minimize the impact of the traffic as much as possible. Mr.
Smith stated that by "widening Dartmouth you created the
traffic"; if Cherokee is not going to be part of a one-way
couplet it should not be designated as a collector.
Mrs. Becker stated t hat she understood one of the reasons for
designation of spe cific traffic carrying streets is to maintain
a certain degree of maintenance, and to assure that the sur-
facing of these s t reets will be stronger to withstand the
traffic. Mr. Smith stated that streets are paved to a specific
surface only i f it is designated as a truck route.
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Mrso Pierson stated that she would second Mro Smith's motion
to remove Cherokee as a collector.
Mr. Bilo stated that if the collector designation is removed,
this would not stop people from using it. Mro Wanush stated
that if the collector designation is removed from South Cherokee
that the bus route will probably be changed and removed from
South Cherokee.
Mr. Lathrop questioned that the collector designation should
be removed from Cherokeeo He took issue with Mro Smith's
statement that the collector designation of a street would
cause deterioration of property, pointing out that he lives
on South Clarkson Street which has been designated as a collector,
and that the properties along South Clarkson in this area are
not deterioratedo Discussion ensuedo Mrs. Romans again pointed
out that directional designation --one-way vs. two-way --is
an administrative function, and is not designated in the Compre-
hensive Plano Mro Lathrop stated that he felt the only way to
handle a high volume of traffic is on a one-way street. Further
discussion ensued.
The vote was called:
AYES: Bilo, Carson, Smith
NAYS: Becker, Lathrop, Pierson, Tanguma
ABSENT: Williams, Draper
The motion failedo
Pierson moved:
Lathrop seconded: That Floyd Avenue be removed from the
collector street designation from Broadway .
east to South University Boulevard.
Mrso Pierson stated that as far as she personally is concerned,
it would be to her advantage to put as much traffic on Floyd
as possible, but she feels it is "absurd to slice the City up"
with heavy traffic carriers as is proposed through the center
of town. Mrs. Romans repeated that to her knowledge, Floyd
Avenue was designated as an arterial from 1958 to 1969; since
1969, it has been designated as a collectoro She pointed out
that Floyd is the one street between Dartmouth and U.S. 285
that can carry traffic to and from University Boulevard. Mrs.
Pierson stated that she did not think the City wanted to en-
courage the use of Floyd Avenue. Mr. Smith stated that if a
street carries a specific designation, the Traffic Engineer
"starts moving traffic down it," and that the traffic flow is
encouraged by the traffic designation.
The vote was called:
AYES: Tanguma, Bilo, Carson, Lathrop, Pierson, Smith
NAYS: Becker
ABSENT: Williams, Draper
The motion carried.
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It was determined that Floyd Avenue would retain the collector
designation west of South Broadway; but that the correction of
the off-set intersection at Floyd and Broadway would not be
recommended in the Plan.
Mr. Lathrop stated that he felt Girard Avenue is carrying an
over-load of traffic now, and he would like to see less traffic
on this street. Discussion ensued. It was pointed out that
Girard carries a lot of traffic to and from the Larwin develop-
ment.
A recess of the Commission was called at 8:35 P. M. The
meeting reconvened at 8:40 P. M.
Members present: Smith, Tanguma, Becker, Bilo, Carson,
Lathrop, Pierson
Members absent: Williams, Draper
The PARKS AND RECREATION section of the Comprehensive Plan was
considered, and the summarization was given by Planning Assistant
Young. Mrs. Young stated that the g0als of this committee deal
primarily with the acquisition of auuitional land for expansion
of existing parks and to provide open space in areas that are
not now served. Expansion of facilities and programs offered
is another goal of this committee. Development of the South
Platte River corridor and other waterways within the City was
also a goal of this committee, as was the incorporation of
"quiet areas" and bicycle and pedestrian paths into existing
and new parks and landscaped drainageways. Mrs. Young reviewed
the Course of Action recommended by the Committee, that being
that funds be allocated to acquire land to expand existing
parks, for new parks, and to expand the facilities at existing
parks.
Mr. Smith took exception to the proposed expansion of the
Bates/Logan Park. He pointed out that to physicaily expand
the land area of this park would necessitate the purchase of
"some of the nicest homes in Englewood" --approximately 12 -
15 homes which would cost about $50,000 each. He questioned
the rationale of paying this much per house for this number of
houses to expand the park area which would cost several thousand
dollars a year to maintain. He stated that he has voted to
delete this project from the Capital Improvement Program for
the last three years, and disagrees with this goal of the Com-
prehensive Plan Review Committee.
Mrs. Becker suggested that the statement just be reworded; that
while the physical area of the park might not be expanded, she
would like to see expanded facilities in this park. Discussion
ensued.
Bilo moved:
Carson seconded: That Course of Action #1 be reworded to read:
"Allocate funds to acquire land for new parks
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extended to South Windermere Street to provide for a safer
flow of traffic across South Santa Fe Drive.
Mr. Smith questioned whether the relocation of Fire Station
#3 would eliminate the need for a fire station on the east
side of South Broadway? Mrs. Romans pointed out that Station
#3 would serve that area south of U.S. 285; this would leave
the northeast section of Englewood without a section that could
respond in under a four-minute response time. Mrs. Romans
stated that the Review Committee met with former Fire Chief
Hamilton, and he recommended that a fire station be constructed
in the northeast section of the City. Mr. Smith stated that he
didn't think Fire Chief Beeson feels there is a need for such
a station.
Mr. Wanush pointed out that many of the items contained in
the Public Facilities section have been mentioned in other
sections of the Comprehensive Plan, and that this is really
setting forth the Capital Improvement Program. He suggested
the possibility of excluding this as a specific section of the
Comprehensive Plan and dealing with these matters in the Capital
Improvement Program after the adoption of the Comprehensive Plan.
Discussion ensued.
Mr. Smith noted that the 1969 Comprehensive Plan, Brochure form,
was very informational, and that he felt possibly the Public
Facilities section could reflect more of the informational
attitude rather than containing specific recommendations as
this report tends to do.
Mr. W~nush asked about the median planters; he noted the
Transportatio~ committee had recommended against the installa-
tion of ·such planters. Discussion ensued. It was determined
that the planters were attractive and did cut down on the
accident rate on the section of Broadway where they have been
installed. It was noted that previous discussion had indicated
the planters were not recommended in the downtown area because
it would result in the traffic lanes too close to the front of
the buildings.
Mrs. Becker questioned the sale of the raw water as suggested
by the Committee. Mr. Smith stated that the City of Englewood
has more raw water than it could use if the service area were
tripled; it is potable water that is of concern. If the raw
water is not put to use, it is possible that the City could
lose the right to this water; therefore, it is better to sell
the raw water to other municipalities for their use than run
the risk of losing the right to that water. The contract for
sale does give the City of Englewood the first right of use if
a water shortage does occur. A brief discussion followed.
III. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mr. Wanush stated that he had nothing to bring before the
Commission.
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Mrs. Romans stated that Mr. Bilo had asked that a tour be
arranged; she suggested Saturday, March 31st, from 7:00 A.M.
until 1 P .M. This time and date was agreeable .
IV . COMMISSION'S CHOICE.
There was nothing discussed under Commission's Choice.
The meeting adjourned at 9:25 P . M.
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