HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-04-03 PZC MINUTESCITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
April 3, 1984
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called
to order by Vice-Chairman Marjorie L. Becker at 7:00 P. M.
Members present: Venard, Barbre, Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma
Romans, Assistant Director of Community Development
Members absent: Allen, McBrayer
Also present: Senior Planner Susan T. King
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
March 20, 1984
Mrs. Becker stated that the Minutes of March 20, 1984 were to be considered
for approval.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Minutes of March 20, 1984, be approved as written.
AYES: Barbre, Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Allen, McBrayer
The motion carried.
III. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE
§22.4-14 Planned Development
Mrs. Becker asked for a motion to open the Public Hearing.
Tanguma moved:
CASE 1116-84
Carson seconded: The Public Hearing on Case 1116-84 be opened.
AYES: Barbre, Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Allen, McBrayer
The motion carried.
Mrs. Becker stated that notice of the Public Hearing was published in
the Englewood Sentinel on March 14, 1984.
Mr. Becker stated that there was no one present in the audience to address
the Commission. Mrs. Becker stated that the Commission members have had
the staff report regarding the proposed amendments to the Planned Develop-
ment District for review for several days; she asked if there were questions
of the staff regarding the proposed amendments.
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Mrs. Becker asked for clarification on Page 8, (f)(i), and asked if this
meant that if the developer chose to provide the decorative fence, could
he build to within five feet of the property line. Mrs, Romans stated
that one of the purposes of a Planned Development is to allow for flexi-
bility in setbacks, and the setback would be determined by the Develop-
ment Plan.
Mr. Venard questioned the wording of the last sentence in (f)(l) on Page
8, and suggested that perhaps a "screened" decorative fence was redundant.
Mrs. Romans suggested that the word "screened" could be eliminated.
Mrs. Becker questioned Page 9 (3) regarding an internal street system on
Planned Developments. She suggested that the wording be changed to state
that Private, internal streets may ee ~efll!f~~ea f{ eaey MUST comply with
City Standards. Discussion ensued. Mr. Stoel suggested that the wording
remain as proposed by staff so that a developer can determine just by
reading this section that an internal street system is allowed. Further
discussion ensued. It was the consensus that the wording on this section
shall not be changed.
Mr. Venard suggested that the word "THAN" be inserted at the end of the
last sentence on Page 10. It was agreed that this was needed.
Mrs. Romans suggested that on Page 5 (c), mid-paragraph the following
change be made: "If the plan is disapproved, the plan shall be returned
TO THE APPLICANT together with the ... "
Mrs. Becker noted that one person had entered the meeting and was seated
in the audience; she asked if this person had any questions regarding the
Planned Development District amendments. The gentleman, who did not iden-
tify himself, stated that he did not have any questions.
Carson moved:
Tanguma seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #16-84 be closed.
AYES: Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Barbre
NAYS: None
ABSENT: McBrayer, Allen
The motion carried.
Mrs. Becker stated that it would appear that this document will accomplish
the intent to clean up the process in approving Planned Developments. Mr.
Barbre asked what procedure and time element applies to PD approvals now.
Mrs. Romans stated that this has been a real problem, and noted that there
is no provision to "abandon" an approved PD if no development has taken
place. Mrs. Romans cited instances of approved Planned Developments where
the development has not occurred by the same owner that made the applica-
tion for approval; a subsequent owner may make minor modifications and
still use the approved Plan layout, but this does not always work well.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Planning Commission approve the Planned Development
District amendments as proposed and modified at this
meeting, and refer this zone district to the City Council
for approval.
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AYES: Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Barbre, Becker
NAYS: None
ABSENT: McBrayer, Allen
The motion carried.
IV. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE
§22.4-16 Design Guidelines
Barbre moved:
CASE #17-84
Carson seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #17-84 be opened.
AYES: Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Barbre, Becker, Carson
NAYS: None
ABSENT: McBrayer, Allen
The motion carried.
Mrs. Becker stated that she has in hand a copy of the public notice of
the time, date and place of the public hearing which was published in
the Englewood Sentinel on March 14, 1984.
Mrs. Becker suggested that the staff should make a presentation on the
proposed amendments before the Commission, inasmuch as there is an audience.
Ms. Susan King was sworn in, and testified that she is Senior Planner in
the Department of Community Development. Ms. King gave testimony on the
problems that the staff has incurred in administering the Design Guidelines,
which, when written, were meant to facilitate the facade improvement pro-
gram on South Broadway, and not intended to apply to a new construction
program. The scope of the Downtown Redevelopment project has changed
dramatically in the last two years, and there will be considerable new
construction along South Broadway. In attempting to apply the design
guidelines to the new construction, it was determined that the design
criteria for new construction was too restrictive, and the matter of
height limitation was also questioned. After considerable discussion,
it was felt it would better to drop the guidelines for new construction;
the guidelines would still apply to buildings on South Broadway that will
not be razed, but would undergo a facade improvement. Ms. King stated
that modifications to the Design Guidelines signage requirements have
been previously recommended by the Commission, and will be submitted
to City Council.
Mr. Venard asked if it is necessary to reference back to the B-1 Zone
District on the matter of height restrictions. Ms. King stated that
the Design Guidelines appl y to the B-1 Zone District, and did not feel
it necessary to incorporate a cross reference.
Mrs. Becker asked if there were other comments from the Commission, or
if the member of the audience wished to ask any questions. There were no
further comments from Commission members, and the gentleman in the audience
indicated he had no questions.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Public Hearing on Case . #17-84 be closed.
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AYES: Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Barbre, Becker, Carson, Magnuson
NAYS: None
ABSENT: McBrayer, Allen
The motion carried.
Carson moved:
Venard seconded: The Planning Commission approve the proposed amendments
to §22.4-16 Design Guidelines for the South Broadway
Incentive Area, and refer the proposed amendments to
City Council for their approval.
AYES: Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Barbre, Becker, Carson, Magnuson
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Allen, McBrayer
The motion carried.
V. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE
§22.8 Fences and Retaining Walls
Carson moved:
CASE #18-84
Magnuson seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #18-84 be opened.
AYES: Tanguma, Venard, Barbre, Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Allen, McBrayer
The motion carried.
Mrs. Becker stated that she has in hand a copy of the public notice of
the time, date and place of the public hearing which was published in
the Englewood Sentinel on March 14, 1984.
Mrs. Becker asked for the staff presentation.
Mrs. Dorothy Romans was sworn in, and testified that she is the Assistant
Director of Community Development, Planning Division. Mrs. Romans stated
that a few years ago during a codification process of the Municipal Code,
the section of the Code pertaining to fences and retaining walls was omitted.
The staff has continued to adhere to the standards for fence and retaining
wall construction when permits for fences and retaining walls are issued;
however, there has been no support for the staff determinations because the
fence and retaining wall requirements are not in the Municipal Code. Mrs.
Romans stated that the staff is of the opinion that it is very important
that the standards for the fences and retaining walls be incorporated as
part of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance. Mrs. Romans then reviewed the
standards for fences and retaining walls which are before the Commission.
The standards establish the types of fences that would be permitted within
the various Districts of the City, the height of the fences is established,
and a provision requiring that fences be kept in good repair has been added.
Fences/retaining walls may not obstruct the visability of the motorist at
intersections. Mrs. Romans pointed out that the regulations before the
Commission are very similar to the ordinance on fences that was previously
in effect. Height of fences has not been changed: 42" maximum in front
yards, and a 6' maximum in the rear yards. Mrs. Romans asked if the Com-
mission members had questions regarding the proposed regulatioas.
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Mr. Carson referred to Page 3 and Page 4, and the sections pertaining to
the use of barbed wire above six feet; he felt this limitation should be
changed to state that barbed wire may be used at a height of eight feet
or above. Mrs. Romans pointed out that the height limitation of fences
is six feet. Page 3 refers to fencing in the Business areas, and Page
4 refers to fencing in the industrial districts. The fences in an in-
dustrial area may exceed the six feet. Mr. Carson reiterated his opinion
that barbed wire should be used only above eight feet in height. Discussion
ensued. Mr. Carson suggested that use of barbed wire should be eliminated
in the business zone districts, and in the industrial districts it should
not be used below the eight foot height. Further discussion ensued. Mrs.
Becker pointed out that fences with barbed wire atop them are above the
six foot height and the barbed wire is on poles slanted inward; if individuals
get "caught" in the barbed wire, "they are in the wrong place." Mr. Tanguma
pointed out that if someone wanted to scale a six foot fence, they would
just as easily scale an eight foot fence.
Mr. Tanguma referred to Page 1, and asked why fences of Class 5 and Class
6 (Solid fences less than 50% open, or solid hendges, respectively) would
not be allowed in a residential zone district. Mrs. Romans stated that
the primary concern would be the obstruction of view for motorists at
intersections, and the restriction of light and air movement to the prop-
erty.
Mr. Tanguma stated that he wanted to construct a retaining wall using
railroad ties in his front yard; it does not appear that he would be
allowed to do so under the proposed regulations. Mrs. Romans stated
that the purpose of a retaining wall is the "support" of the earth to
prevent erosion, and that a fence is constructed above grade; she stated
that if a property owner has property which slopes, and wantes to con-
struct a retaining wall the staff would work with them.
Mrs. Romans discussed some of the security problems that occur with the
construction of solid fences.
Mr. Stoel asked if he wanted to plant a hedge in his front yard, would he
have to get a building permit to do so. Mrs. Romans stated that he would
not; the primary concern is that it be planted at least one foot back of
the sidewalk, again for protection of pedestrians walking by.
Mr. Stoel asked about fences using a combination of masonry walls and
ornamental iron, and what classification would a fence of this type be
given. Mrs. Romans stated that if the masonry is used as a pillar,
with the wrought iron for the basic fence, it would be considered an
"open" fence.
Mrs. Becker stated that she approved the location of dog runs in the
rear one-third of the lot.
Mrs. Becker then discussed the location of her particular property, and
the fact that the neighbors property to the west faces west, therefore
their rear yard abuts the side yard of Mrs. Becker's property; the same
is true on the east side of Mrs. Becker's property, and the rear of her
property abuts the rear of the property to the south; thus, her property
is bounded on three sides by the rear yards of the surrounding properties.
If a property owner is allowed to construct a six foot fence across the
rear of their property, this could mean her property would be surrounded
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by a six foot fence on the west, south and east. She asked how such a
situation would be handled; would it be permitted, in fact, or would
the side-yard restrictions apply on fence height. Mrs. Romans acknowledged
that this is a unique situation, and stated that she did not know how the
City could prevent the installation of the six foot fence in the rear yard
if the adjoining property owner wanted to do so.
Mrs. Romans stated that an agreement between property owners has been
used by the Board in considering fence heights from the rear of the house
to the front of the house. Mrs. Romans suggested that perhaps a provision
could be included to state that if a rear yard abuts the side yard of
another property, the property owner would have to obtain permission of
the adjoining property owner before installation of a fence in excess
of 42" in height would be approved. Mrs. Becker stated she felt there
were enough situations similar to her property that it warrants considera-
tion, and felt that the proposed statement would be fair to both property
owners.
Mr. Venard asked if the Commission is being consistent in requiring screening
fences in some sections of the Zoning Ordinance, but not allowing them in
the section on fences. Mrs. Romans pointed out that if adjoining neighbors
do not want a solid screening fence, the staff works with both property
owners to see that a fence acceptable to both parties is constructed.
Mrs. Becker asked if there were any other questions from the Commission or
from the audience. No questions were asked. Mrs. Becker suggested that
this public hearing be continued to a date certain to give the staff an
opportunity to make the modifications to the proposed regulations and
bring them back to the Commission for further review.
Carson moved:
Venard seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #18-84 be continued to April
17, 1984 at 7:00 P. M.
AYES: Venard, Barbre, Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Allen, McBrayer
The motion carried.
VI. FINDINGS OF FACT CASE #9-84B
I-1, Light Industrial Zone District
Mrs. Becker stated that the Findings of Fact on Case #9-84B were to be
considered for approval.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Planning Commission approve the Findings of Fact
on Case #9-84B, I-1 Light Industrial District, and
refer said Findings of Fact to City Council.
AYES: Barbre, Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Allen, McBrayer
The motion carried.
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Mrs. Becker expressed her appreciation to the Planning staff for their
work in preparing the information for the Commission.
VII. GOALS/WORK PROGRAM.
Mrs. Becker noted that two members of the Commission were absent this
evening, and suggested that consideration of this item be postponed un-
til the next meeting. After brief discussion, the Chair declared this
item postponed to April 17th.
VIII. PUBLIC FORUM.
Mrs. Becker asked if the gentleman in the audience wished to address the
Commission. He did not wish to speak to the Commission.
IX. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mrs. Romans stated that it appears the agenda for April 17 ·will be a
"light" one; the one case that was scheduled may be withdrawn. She asked
if the Commission wanted to have a work session beginning at 5:30 P. M.,
and go into a regular meeting at 7:00 P. M. to continue the hearing on
the Fence regulations. Mrs. Romans suggested one or two topics for the
work session.
Mrs. Becker asked if the staff has pictures in the files of mixed use
developments that could be viewed by the Commission. Mrs. Romans stated
the staff would attempt to obtain pictures of mixed use developments.
Mr. Carson asked if there is a map showing school district boundaries.
Mrs. Romans stated that such a map would be obtained for the Commission
members.
It was the consensus of the Commission to meet at 5:30 P.M. on April 17
for a work session; sandwiches will be served.
X. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE.
Mr. Carson reported on his attendance at the Denver Regional Council of
Governments annual banquet. The City of Englewood received a second place
award on municipal cooperative projects, and former Councilman Donald Harper
received an award for his work on the In-house Service to Elderly People
committee.
The meeting adjourned at 8:05 P. M.
Gefrtrude G. Welty
Ricording Secretary