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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
April 17, 1984
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order at 7:00 P. M. by Chairman Ed McBrayer.
Members present: Becker, Carson, Magnuson, McBrayer, Stoel, Tanguma,
Venard, Allen
Romans, Assistant Director of Community Development
Members absent:
Also present:
Barbre
Senior Planner Susan King
Planner I Harold Stitt
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
April 3, 1984
Chairman McBrayer stated that the Minutes of April 3, 1984 were to be
considered for approval.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Minutes of April 3, 1984 be approved as written.
AYES: Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: McBrayer, Allen
ABSENT: Barbre
The motion carried.
III. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT
Dartmouth Industrial Park
Paul Welbourne, Applicant
Mr. McBrayer asked for a motion to open the Public Hearing.
Carson moved:
CASE //20-84
Becker seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #20-84 be opened.
AYES: Carson, Magnuson, McBrayer, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Allen, Becker
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Barbre
The motion carried .
Mr. McBrayer stated that the matter before the Planning Commission is a
public hearing on a request for an amendment to a Planned Development
known as the Dartmouth Industrial Park. Mr. McBrayer reviewed the course
of action open to the Commission on this matter: 1) approve the amend-
ment to the P.D. as submitted; 2) approve the amendment with conditions;
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3) refer the proposed amendment back to the applicant for further revision
and/or information, Mr. McBrayer asked that anyone addressing the Com-
mission be sworn in and limit their testimony to the matter under con-
sideration.
Mr. McBrayer stated that members of the Commission have the staff report,
which was delivered several days earlier, before them; are there any
questions of the staff.
Mr. Stoel asked if this property has been before the Commission in the
recent past. Mr. McBrayer stated that a Mr. Tepe was before the Commission
recently to request a subdivision of a small parcel which was a part of
the Dartmouth Industrial, and which Mr. Tepe hoped to develop.
Mr. Allen stated that it appeared from the staff report that there are
charges due to the City by the property owner. Mr. McBrayer stated that
he understands that this is being worked out, and is not a factor in
considering the amendment to the Planned Development.
Mr. McBrayer asked if the staff had anything to add at this time. Mr.
Stitt stated that the staff had no further information to present.
Mr. McBrayer stated that notice of the Public Hearing was published in
the Englewood Sentinel on March 28th; he asked that the staff report be
made a part of the record of the Hearing.
Mr. McBrayer asked the applicant to present his case.
Mr. Arnold Vollmers
420 East 58th Avenue -was sworn in, and stated that he was representing
Mr. Wellbourne, the applicant.
Mr. Carson asked Mr. Vollmers if he had read the staff report, and the
statements regarding the landscaping and asked if the applicant agrees
with the staff recorrunendation. Mr. Vollmers stated that he has read
the staff report, and that it is his understanding that the applicant
needs to continue the landscaping along Dartmouth Avenue.
Mr. Allen asked if the landscaping required on the initial Planned Develop-
ment was put in, but not maintained and allowed to die. Mr. Vollmers
stated that the total landscaping proposed under the original Planned
Development was not completed. Mr. Vollmers pointed out that there is
no curb or gutter in the area, and points of access are not clearly
delineated; motorists have driven over some of the landscaped areas and
destroyed what landscaping was planted. Mr. Vollmers stated that he
feels the traffic pattern has been improved under the proposed amendment,
and will hopefully solve the problem of destruction of the landscaping by
motorists,
Mr. McBrayer asked if the landscaping plan shown on the amended Planned
Development complies with the City's Landscaping Ordinance. Mr. Stitt
stated that this is an amendment of a Planned Development which was ap-
proved in 1973; at that time, a landscaping plan was submitted. Mr. Stitt
cited a provision in the Landscaping Ordinance which provision states that
if the value of an "improvement" does not exceed 50% of the total value,
landscaping is not required. Mr. Stitt stated that in viewing the total
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Planned Development, it is clear that the proposed new building does
not exceed 50 % of the total value of the development; therefore, it is
the staff's opinion that the provisions of the Landscaping Ordinance
do not apply. Mr. Stitt stated that the applicant has indicated a
willingness to comply with the wishes of the Commission to add more land-
scaping than was approved on the original Planned Development.
Mr. McBrayer asked if there is a proposed use of the building. Mr. Vollmers
stated that there is not at this time. They have had some inquiries from
businessmen who are looking for a smaller space than could have been pro-
vided in the other buildings in the Dartmouth Industrial Park, and these
inquiries are the basis for the design of the proposed building.
Mrs. Becker discussed her concern with the landscaping as shown on the
Plan. Mr. Vollmers stated that the applicant is trying to work with the
adjacent property owners to improve the landscaping along Dartmouth Avenue,
and pointed out the areas which are to be landscaped and shown on the Plan
before the Commission.
Mr. Stoel asked if the only place landscaping is proposed is along Dart-
mouth. Mr. Vollmers stated that this is a strip of approximately 90 to
100 feet in length, by 14 feet in depth, which will be grassed. Mr. Stoel
stated that it is his opinion that the issue before the Commission is the
landscaping and what is proposed for the landscaping. This information is
not shown on the plan. Mr. Vollmers stated that as landscaping relates to
this site, there would be the 14 foot strip of grass along the property
frontage on Dartmouth; they will plant the grass, and put in a sprinkler
system.
Mr. Allen noted that the Department recommendation is that the landscaping
be installed prior to the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy; if no
landscaping is required, how can this be done. Mrs. Romans pointed out
that the request before the Commission is an "amendment" to a Planned De-
velopment which was approved back in 1973; the landscaping which was shown
in the 1973 Planned Development was never actually planted; the staff is
asking that the landscaping shown on the 1973 Plan be planted, in addition
to the landscaping that is proposed for the subject site prior to issuance
of a Certificate of Occupancy. Mrs. Romans stated that the staff has tried
over the years to work with Mr. Wellbourne to get the landscaping planted,
but without success; now, however, Mr. Welbourne has applied for approval
of the amendment, and the City is saying that the landscaping as shown on
the original Planned Development is required, and must be planted prior
to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy on the proposed new building.
Mr. Stoel questioned the meaning of the staff recommendation; did it
apply to the landscaping on the site which is the subject of the amend-
ment, or to the total site. Mrs. Romans stated that the recommendation
is meant to apply to the landscaping on the total site.
Discussion ensued. Mr. McBrayer suggested that the recommendation be
reworded to state that "the landscaping required under the original
Planned Development approved by the Planning Commission on June 19, 1973,
must be installed and extended into the area newly proposed for develop-
ment as shown on the amended Development Plan submitted on March 16, 1984".
Further discussion ensued.
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Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #20-84 be closed.
Mr. McBrayer asked that the record reflect that there was no one else
present in the audience to address the Commission on this matter. Mr.
McBrayer then asked if Mr. Vollmers had anything else to discuss with the
Commission.
Mr. Vollmers stated that if the intent of the Commission is to refer to
the original Plan, possibly there is a need to take into consideration
the modificati.ons as shown on the latest, larger landscape plan, which
modifications show the traffic control more clearly. Mr. Vollmers pointed
out that there is no curb or gutter, and no clear indication where the
edge of the public street lies, and that people have been in the habit
of cutting back and forth from private property to the street at any
point, and not at designated points of access. Mr. Vollmers stated that
the original Development Plan did indicate the location of the curbing
and the landscaping, but the latest revision will modify some of the
curbing.
Mr. Allen asked if the curbing will be installed now. Mr. Vollmers stated
that he understood that this would be a requirement.
Mr. Venard expressed concern that Mr. Vollmers's understanding of what
the Commission was requiring is the same as Mrs. Romans's understanding.
The vote on the motion to close the Public Hearing was called.
AYES: Magnuson, McBrayer, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Allen, Becker, Carson
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Barbre
The motion carried.
Mr. McBrayer reviewed the wording of the proposed recommendation.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Planning Commission approve the proposed amendment
to the Dartmouth Industrial Park Planned Development,
with the following condition:
1. The landscaping required under the original Planned
Development approved by the Planning Commission on
June 19, 1973, must be installed and extended into the
area newly proposed for development as shown on the
amended Development Plan submitted on March 16, 1984.
The required landscaping shall be installed prior to
the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy.
Mrs. Becker stated that she realized the Commission has no authority to
require additional landscaping than that which is shown on the original
Development Plan, but she is of the opinion that there is enough parking
area where something could be done to soften the visual impact. Mrs.
Becker further stated that she feels there is a difference between land-
scaping and "grass"; she is of the opinion that landscaping means planting
of trees, shrubs, etc., in addition to the grass. She stated that she
hoped the builder would consider some other kind of landscaping than just
planting the grass strip along Dartmouth Avenue.
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Mrs. Romans pointed out that the Commission is being asked to amend the
original Development Plan, and that the Commission may ask that specific
conditions be complied with. Mrs. Romans stated that if the Commission
members feel that the landscaping on the development is inadequate, it
is her opinion that they can ask that a plan with an improved landscaping
plan be submitted. Mrs. Becker stated that this has been her concern;
she understood that the Commission was tied to the approved Plan of 1973
regarding the landscaping. Mrs. Becker stated that if it is possible to
require an improved landscaping plan, she would vote in opposition of
the motion to approve. Mr. Carson suggested that if it is possible to
ask for an improved landscaping plan, he would withdraw his motion to
approve the amendment to the Development Plan. Mrs. Becker stated that
she wants to see something more than a grass strip along Dartmouth Avenue
on this development.
Mr. Magnuson stated that he wants to see what the original landscaping
plan was, and to see a more defined landscaping plan as now proposed.
Mr. McBrayer stated that as far as the landscaping proposed on the original
Development Plan, he felt if the Commission can assure that it is in place
prior to issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy this is as much as the
Commission can do.
Mr. Allen stated that the landscaping shown on the original Development
Plan either was not planted, or was allowed to deteriorate and die; he
stated that he would like to see the applicant do what they were supposed
to do in the first place. It appears, based on the Landscaping Ordinance,
that additional landscaping cannot be required on the total area.
Mr. Stitt reiterated the provisions of the Landscaping Ordinance and the
requirement that the improvement be over 50 % of the value of the existing
development before landscaping can be required.
Mrs. Becker asked what constituted an "improvement". Mr. Stitt stated
that an "improvement" may be the construction of a new and separate
building; an "improvement" need not be confined to additions or improve-
ments to an existing building.
Mr. McBrayer stated that it appeared that the Landscaping Ordinance does
not apply on the one hand; on the other hand, the Planned Development
regulations appear to allow the Commission to take into account the
original Development Plan, or add to it. Mr. McBrayer stated that he
feels the consensus of the Commission is they would like to see a Develop-
ment Plan with the provisions of the original proposal on it, and addi-
tional landscaping for the property proposed for development under the
proposed amendment.
Mr. Allen stated that when one considers the notation in the staff re-
port of the unpaid sewer charges which are due the City, when one con-
siders the poor performance on planting and maintenance of landscaping
from the date the original Development Plan was approved in 1973, this
does not add up to a "good track record" for the applicant. Mr. Allen
stated that he feels the Commission "needs something nailed down." He
emphasized he felt the landscaping proposed on the original Development
Plan should be installed and maintained as was approved in 1973.
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Discussion ensued. Mrs. Becker stated that she felt it would be better
for the developer to have another attempt to bring in what the Commission
is looking for rather than to vote on the motion and have it fail. The
developer should have the opportunity to bring in the information required.
Becker moved:
Magnuson seconded: The decision on the amendment of the Dartmouth In-
dustrial Park Planned Development be tabled until
May 8. 1984.
Mr. McBrayer asked that the staff supply copies of the landscaping plan
as proposed on the original Development Plan, and that the applicant
supply a landscaping plan that more clearly defines what the proposed
landscaping plan for the "amendment" area would be.
The vote was called:
AYES: Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Becker, Carson, Magnuson, McBrayer
NAYS: Allen
ABSENT: Barbre
The motion carried.
Mrs. Romans pointed out that the City may not have a reproducible of
the original Development Plan, and asked if -it would be acceptable to
incorporate the original and revised landscaping on one plan. Mrs.
Becker stated that she felt this would be a good idea to have every-
thing on one plat.
IV. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE
Fences and Retaining Walls
CASE ff18-84
Mr. McBrayer stated that this is a continuation of a Public Hearing that
was opened on April 3rd, and continued to this date for further informa-
tion.
Mrs. Becker stated that since the last meeting, she has taken particular
notice in driving through the City and was surprised at the number of
lots that have a side yard abutting the rear yard of another property.
She stated that she felt the wording which the staff has suggested:
"IF THE REAR YARD OF ONE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ABUTS THE SIDE YARD OF
AN ADJOINING PROPERTY, NO FENCE SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED ON OR ADJACENT TO
THE COMMON PROPERTY LINE WHICH EXCEEDS THE HEIGHT OF 42 INCHES, UNTIL
A NOTARIZED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS IS FILED
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. IF AN AGREEMENT IS
SIGNED AND FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT, THE FENCE ON OR ADJACENT TO SUCH
COMMON PROPERTY LINE MAY BE INSTALLED TO A HEIGHT NOT TO EXCEED 72
INCHES" is appropriate. The proposed wording would give both property
owners a voice in the matter.
Mr. McBrayer proposed a hypothetical situation wherein a property owner
has junk in his back yard, but would refuse to sign an agreement for a
six foot fence an abutting property owner may request for visual improve-
ment. Mrs. Becker stated that the agreement would have to be signed be-
fore the six foot fence could be erected. Discussion ensued.
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Mr. McBrayer stated that he could not be too sympathetic to the problem
that Mrs. Becker has cited. Mrs. Becker stated that it would appear two
rules would apply: the one for the side yard on her property, for in-
stance, and the one for the rear yard on her neighbor's property. How
could such a problem be resolved if it arose.
Mr. McBrayer stated that he would not want to see a six-foot fence along
the front yard portion of any property, but questioned that a six foot
fence on the "side yard" is that much of a problem.
Mrs. Becker stated that she felt the wording, as proposed by staff, is
a good process for the resolution of possible conflicts.
Mr. Venard asked what would happen if two abutting property owners could
not come to an agreement on fence height; could this matter be appealed
to the Board of Adjustment. Mrs. Romans stated that it possibly could
be; however, the City's position has been that fence disputes are a civil
matter between two property owners, and the City has not gotten involved.
Mr. McBrayer suggested a provision that a six foot fence could not be
built beyond the front setback line on adjacent properties; a fence in
this area could not be more than 42 inches in height.
Mrs. Becker stated that she is aware of an instance where a property
owner constructed a six foot fence on three sides of his property; it
was constructed two feet away from a chain link fence, which allowed
weeds to grow in this two foot area. Is there any provision other than
the weed ordinance to handle this situation. Ms. King stated that the
weed ordinance would apply in this instance.
Mr. McBrayer noted that there was no one present to address the Com-
mission on this matter.
Becker moved:
Venard seconded: The Public Hearing on Case #18-84 be closed.
AYES: Tanguma, Venard, Allen, Becker, Carson, Magnuson, McBrayer, Stoel
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Barbre
The motion carried.
Discussion ensued. Mrs. Romans suggested the following wording as an
addition to the Ferice and Retaining Wall Regulations: "IRREGARDLESS OF
WHETHER OR NOT A REAR YARD OF ONE PROPERTY ABUTS THE SIDE YARD OF AN
ADJOINING PROPERTY, THE HEIGHT OF A FENCE CONSTRUCTED IN FRONT OF THE
FRONT BUILDING LINE OF THE HOUSE ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY SHALL NOT
EXCEED 42 INCHES, AND SHALL BE AT LEAST 50% OPEN.
Mr. McBrayer
be 50 % open.
read by Mrs.
asked what members felt about the provision that the fence
Mr. Allen stated that he felt the proposal is fine as was
Romans
Mrs. Becker stated that she still felt a signed agreement between the
property owners is needed.
Carson moved:
Allen seconded:
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The Planning Commission refer the proposed Fence and
Retaining Wall regulations to City Council, with the
addition of the following statement: IRREGARDLESS OF
WHETHER OR NOT A REAR YARD OF ONE PROPERTY ABUTS THE
SIDE YARD OF AN ADJOINING PROPERTY, THE HEIGHT OF A
FENCE CONSTRUCTED IN FRONT OF THE FRONT BUILDING LINE
OF THE HOUSE ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY SHALL NOT EXCEED
42 INCHES AND SHALL BE AT LEAST 50% OPEN.
Mrs. Becker stated that she is of the opinion that the Commission does
need to address the issue of the side yard. Mr. Tanguma agreed.
Mrs. Becker stated that she would vote in favor of the motion, but is
still of the opinion that there should be a signed agreement required
when property lines fall as they do in her block, and in other locations
throughout the City.
Mr. Tanguma stated that he would have to vote in opposition to the motion;
he feels the issue of side yards abutting rear yards must be addressed.
Mrs. Romans suggested that a new Section 7 be added on Page 5, which
section would read: "THE HEIGHT OF MATERIALS OR EQUIPMENT STORED SHALL
NOT EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE REQUIRED SCREENING FENCE OR WALL."
Mr. Carson asked that this provision be included as part of his motion.
The second agreed.
Mr. Tanguma asked that the Commission consider including an amendment
requiring a signed agreement between two property owners on the issue
of a six foot fence where a rear yard abuts a side yard.
Mr. Allen asked i .f it would be appropriate to rewrite the fence code
before a determination is made. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Allen asked for clarification of "equipment and materials" referred
to in Mrs. Romans's proposed addition to the Fence regulations. Ms. King
pointed out that this provision will also be included in the industrial
districts, and that fencing in the industrial districts can be of a
height up to 12 feet. Mrs. Romans stated that the fence code is not
retro-active according to legal counsel.
Mr. Tanguma stated that he did not want to vote against the proposed
fence and retaining wall regulations, or the amendment proposed by Mrs.
Romans, but he feels he will have to vote in opposition because it does
not cover some of the problems that people have where side yards abut
rear yards. Mr. McBrayer pointed out that passing the proposed fence
and retaining wall regulations as written does not creat any new problems.
Mr. Tanguma acknowledged this, but stated that this does not mean the
present or proposed regulations are right.
The vote was called:
AYES: Allen, Becker, Carson, McBrayer, Stoel
NAYS: Venard, Magnuson, Tanguma
ABSENT: Barbre
The motion carried.
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V. FINDINGS OF FACT
Planned Development Amendments Case #16-84
Mr. McBrayer stated that the Findings of Fact are to be considered for
approval.
Carson moved:
Magnuson seconded: The Findings of Fact on Case #16-84, proposed amend-
ments to the Planned Development regulations, be ap-
proved as written and referred to the City Council.
AYES: Allen, Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: McBrayer
ABSENT: Barbre
The motion carried.
FINDINGS OF FACT
Design Guidelines for South Broadway
Incentive Area
Case #17-84
Mr. McBrayer stated that the Findings of Fact on Case #17-84 were to be
considered for approval.
Carson moved:
Stoel seconded: The Findings of Fact on Case #17-84, proposed amendments
to the Design Guidelines for the South Broadway Incentive
Area, be approved as written and referred to City Council.
AYES: Becker, Carson, Magnuson, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Allen
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: McBrayer
ABSENT: Barbre
The motion carried.
VI. PUBLIC FORUM.
Mr. McBrayer noted that there was no one present to address the Commission.
VII. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mrs. Romans stated that members of the Commission are invited to attend
the Arbor Day Activities on April 20, 10 A.M. at the Municipal Golf
Course. Also, tree seedlings will be given away from noon to 3 P.M.
on April 20 at Miller Field.
Mrs. Romans stated that a map has been prepared showing the school dis-
trict boundaries within and adjoining the City of Engelwood. The code
on the bottom of the map is as follows: 0 -Denver; 1 -Englewood;
2 -Arapahoe County Sheridan; 5 -Arapahoe County Cherry Creek; and
6 -Arapahoe County Littleton. Mrs. Romans noted that the Brock property
will be split between the Englewood and Littleton School Districts.
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VIII. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE.
Mr. Allen stated that he will postpone his presentation on trash collection
to a later date.
Mrs. Becker stated that she will be attending the APA National Conference
in Minneapolis/St. Paul May 4th through May 9th, and will not be at the
next regular meeting of the Commission on May 8th.
Mr. McBrayer read a draft of a letter that he has written on behalf of
the Commission regarding construction of a new City Hall with historical
decor; this has been done as a part of the Commission's Goals/Work Pro-
gram. Members of the Commission approved the content of the letter;
Mr. McBrayer stated that he would have it in final form for the next
meeting.
There being nothing further to come before the Commission, Mr. McBrayer
declared the meeting adjourned at 8:40 P. M.
G~rtrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary
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