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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983-11-08 PZC MINUTESCITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION November 8, 1983 I. CALL TO ORDER. The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:00 P. M. by Chairman Marjorie Becker. Members present: McBrayer, Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Barbre, Becker, Carson Romans, Ex-officio Members absent: Allen II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. October 18, 1983 Chairman Becker stated that the Minutes of October 18, 1983, were to be considered for approval. Carson moved: Tanguma seconded: The Minutes of October 18, 1983 be approved as written. AYES: Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Barbre, Carson, McBrayer NAYS: None ABSTAIN: Becker ABSENT: Allen The motion carried. III. ELKS LODGE #2122 Off-Street Parking Lot CASE #18-83 Mrs. B.ecker stated that the issue before the Commission is consideration of a proposed off-street parking lot layout for the Elks Lodge #2122; this is not a Public Hearing, and is not referred to the City Council. Mrs. Becker noted that the Commission members have the staff report, and asked if there were questions of the staff from the Commission. Mrs. Becker asked if the staff had anything to add to the staff report. Mrs. Romans stated that she had nothing at this time. Mrs. Becker asked if a representative of the Elks Lodge was present to address the Commission. Mr. Norman Day stated that he is Building Chairman for the Elks Lodge #2122. Mr. Day reviewed the recommendation of the Community Development Department and the conditions for approval as set forth in the staff report sent to the Commission and to the Lodge. He stated that the existing curb cuts on South Jason Street and West Kenyon Avenue will be closed, as required by the staff. The 16 foot parking spaces will be signed for Compact Car parking; again, as required by the staff. Mr. Day stated that bumper stops will be -2- installed to preclude access to the alley from the parking lot as required. The handicapped parking space will be moved to the north as suggested by staff. Mr. Day assured the Commission the Lodge will have no problem complying with the above four requirements. The requirement that the alley be improved to City standards between West Jefferson Avenue and West Kenyon Avenue does, however, present some problems to the Lodge. Mr. Day pointed out that the Lodge will not have access to the alley, and that the building has been oriented to eliminate need for access to the alley. Deliveries and trash removal will access directly through the parking lot to the structure; no use would be made of the alley for this purpose. Mr. Day reiterated that the Lodge will have no need for or access to the alley. Mr. Day cited a statement from a meeting of December 7, 1982, wherein property owners to the east were planning a development, and it was determined that they would be responsible for improvements of the alley. This was approved by the Planning Commission. Mr. Day reiterated that the Elks Lodge will have no access to the alley, and do not feel that the improve- ment of the alley is their responsibility. Mr. Tanguma asked why it is necessary there be no access to and from the alley from the parking lot. Mrs. Romans stated that with the potential of office and warehouse development to the east of the alley, uncontrolled access to the alley could be a traffic hazard. The alley is not improved, and it has not been determined what development will be done by the Executive Center to the east. In the present state, the alley cannot carry traffic. Mr. Tanguma questioned the necessity for controlled access, noting that it restricts access to the parking lot. Mr. Venard asked if the alley were to be improved, whether there would still be concern about access from the alley. Mrs. Romans stated that she felt improvement of the alley would minimize the concern of uncontrolled access, but it would not be recommended. Mr. Day noted that the alley is piled with dirt, and is unusable at the present time. Mr. Carson stated that as he recalled, the Englewood Executive Center de- velopers indicated they were going to position their buildings back along the alley so there would he no access from the alley, and they would not need to use the alley. Now the Elks Lodge state they plan the same posi- tioning of their improvements and they will have no need for the alley or for access to and from the alley. He pointed out that the bumper stops they propose to install could be removed in the future, and they could use the alley after it has been improved. He suggested that the property owners on the east and west sides of this alley should get together to determine how this should be handled. Mr. Tanguma asked if the Public Service Company had need of right-of-way through the alley. Mr. Day stated that utilities do go down the alley. Mrs. Romans stated that if a warehouse or other industrial use goes in on the property to the east, there would be a use for the alley. Mr. Barbre stated that it appears from the requirements set forth in the staff report, that the Lodge would be denied access to the alley, but would -3- still be required to improve the alley; he questioned whether this was fair. Mrs. Romans pointed out that this is a standard requirement of the Public Works/Engineering Services Departments. Mr. McBrayer questioned the signing for compact vehicles, and whether there would be bumper stops on the interior parking rows. Mr. Day stated that the signing would be about every 10 spaces or so, and that bumper stops on in- terior parking rows were not contemplated. Mr. McBrayer suggested that the interior parking would be "angled" when people are parking their vehicles. Mr. McBrayer asked whether the Lodge had considered making the interior driving lanes one-way. Mr. Day discussed their traffic circulatory pattern within the parking lot, and stated that directional arrow signs would be posted. Mrs. Becker asked if there is an official statement or ordinance that states that everyone who needs access to an alley must first improve that alley. Mrs. Romans stated that in industrial areas, the Engineering Services Depart- ment requires that the alleys be improved with concrete. Where the alleys are not improved, and there is a need for the improvement, the alleys are placed in a paving district and the cost is pro-rated with adjoining prop- erty owners. Mrs. Becker stated that she understood from Mrs. Romans' statement, that if the alley is not improved by the developer and it is placed in a paving district, the cost is pro-rated. Mr. McBrayer stated that he feels requiring the alley to be improved is un- fair to the Lodge. He suggested that perhaps the Commission could word the condition so that whoever requires use of the alley would be required to finance the improvement of the alley. Mr. Day reiterated the Lodge would have no use for the alley at this time; if, in the future, there was a need for access to the alley, they would expend the funds to pay for their share of the improvements. Mr. Carson asked if the drainage from the parking lot would run to the alley. Mr. Day stated that the drainage would be to the northwest of the building. Mrs. Becker asked if Mr. Day had anything else he wished to present to the Commission. Mr. Day stated they had nothing at this time. Mr. Stoel stated that he did not believe it was fair to require the Elks to pave the alley now; he asked if there is someway an agreement could be made whereby property owners/developers on both sides of the alley would share in the expense of the alley improvement at such time as it is known what the development of the area will be. Mrs. Romans felt that a statement could be made to the e~fect that at such time as the alley is in a paving district, the Lodge would join in the paving district. Mr. Venard stated that it seemed that access to the alley would be advantageous to the Lodge; if there is access to the alley from the parking lot, it should be improved to the City standards. Discussion ensued. Mr. Tanguma pointed out that if the alley is placed in a paving district, the improvement would be assessed to the adjoining property owners. Dis- cussion ensued. Mr. Tarpo, Exaulted Ruler of the Lodge, noted that the property owner to the east of the alley was charged with the improvement of the alley in December, 1982, and this was a condition on their development that was approved by the -4- Commission. Mr. Tarpo stated that in order for the Lodge to use the alley, they would lose parking spaces, and would have to revise the building plans to have access to the alley. He is of the opinion that they are too far along on the building plans to revise them; they are ready to go out to bid. Mr. Stoel disagreed that parking spaces would be lost if the access to the alley would be opened up. The bumper stops would have to be removed, but the parking stall will remain. Mr. Tarpo reiterated that the Lodge does not want to open up the access to the alley and lose the parking spaces. Further discussion ensued. Mr. Stoel stated that he is of the opinion that it would be of benefit to the Lodge to have the alley paved. McBrayer moved: Barbre secdnded: The Planning Commission approve the parking lot layout of the Englewood Elks Lodge #2122 with the following con- ditions: 1) The existing curb cuts on South Jason Street and West Jefferson Avenue must conform to City standards. 2) The 16-foot long spaces will be signed "Compact Cars Only." 3) When and if the alley between West Jefferson Avenue and West Kenyon Avenue is improved, the Elks Lodge must pay for their proportionate share to have access to the alley. 4) Bumper stops must be installed along the east portion of the proposed parking area so that access to the parking is not from the alley. 5) The handicapped stall must be moved one space north to provide better ingress and egress. AYES: Stoel, Tanguma, Venard, Barbre, Becker, Carson, McBrayer NAYS: None ABSENT: Allen The motion carried. IV. PUBLIC FORUM. There was no one present to address the Commission. V. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE. Mrs. Romans reminded members of the Public Hearings scheduled for November 15 on the amendments to the R-1-A, R-1-B, R-1-C, R-2, and R-2-C regulations of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance. VI. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE. Mrs. Becker stated that she had clipped the Project Notification from the --s-· State Highway .Department regarding improvements at Santa Fe Drive and Oxford Avenue and Santa Fe Drive and Dartmouth Avenue from the paper, and would leave them with Mrs. Romans. Mr. Stoel stated that he was impressed with the program of the Swedish Medical Center, and found the breakfast meeting very interesting and informative. Mrs. Becker declared the meeting adjourned at 7:30 P. M. Gejtrude G. Welty ~~cording Secretary -