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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 15, 1981
I. CALL TO ORDER.
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The special meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 7:00 P. M. by Chairman Judith B. Pierson.
Members present : Draper, McBrayer, Pierson, Senti, Barbre,
Becker, Carson
Powers, Ex-officio
Members absent: Tanguma, Allen
Also present : Assistant Director D. A. Romans
Planner I Larry Yenglin
Planning Intern Jeri Linder
Councilman John Neal
Ms. Barbara Holthaus, Chairman, EDDA
Mr. Mike Haviland, Executive Director, EDDA
Ms. Powers introduced Ms. Jeri Linder and Mr. Larry Yenglin
to the Planning Commission. Ms. Linder is a Planning Intern
and a student at Metro College. Mr. Yenglin was recently em-
ployed as a Planner I in the Community Development Department
in the Planning Division.
Ms. Powers also introduced Mrs. Barbara Holthaus, Chairman of
the Englewoo d Downtown Development Authority; Mr. John Neal,
City Counc ilman and member of the EDDA, and Mr. Mike Haviland,
Executive Director of the EDDA.
Mr. Tanguma entered and took his place with the Commission.
II. DOWNTOWN PLAN PRESENTATION CASE #13-81
Ms. Powers noted that members of the Commission were given
copies of the Downtown Plan at the last meeting, which Plan
will be the subject of the review and presentation at this
meeting . Ms. Powers stated that the Downtown Development
Authority has scheduled meetings for presentation of the Plan
at 12:30 P.M. September 16th; 7:30 A.M. September 17th; and
7:00 P.M. September 17th, all of the meetings to be held at
the Police/Fire Center at 3615 South Elati Street. These
meeting s are informational meetings, and are open to the
gener al public.
Ms. Powers stated that at such time as the Commission will
consider the Plan at a Public Hearing, the Plan should have
the endorsement of the Downtown Development Authority. The
Planning Commission will be asked to consider adopting the
Downtown Plan as an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan. When
the Comprehens ive Plan was adopted by the City in 1979, policies
for the downtown were set forth in the Plan, which were adopted
by the EDDA. The Downtown Plan, as it is being considered, is
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a re finement of these policies contained within the Comprehen-
sive Plan Downtown section. The Community Development staff
and a member of the consulting staff are still working on a
set of policies which would apply to the downtown study area,
and are attempting to write these policies in the same format
as t h e Comprehensive Plan is written. Ms. Powers stated that
she felt the Commission is aware of the Downtown Plan, and
that this presentation will be an up-date.
Mr . Haviland stated that he hoped this meeting would be a
"work s hop" session, and wanted the Commission to feel free
to o ffer suggestions and critique the presentation. Mr. Haviland
state d that he has attempted to put together a slide show of
the proposed Plan. Mr. Haviland stated that the EDDA wants
to get input from the meetings that are scheduled on September
16th and September 17th, and bring the issues back to the
Planning Commission for consideration at the Public Hearing.
Ms. Pow ers pointed out that there will be additional informa-
tion coming to the Commission. There are revisions being made
to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, and one of these pro-
posed revisions is a downtown business zone that will be dif-
ferent from either the B-1 or B-2 Business Zones as they exist
today. Ms. Powers also pointed out that the financing plan
for i mplementation of the proposed plan is not available at
the present time. Mr. Haviland asked if the Tax Increment
financ ing concept had been discussed with the Planning Com-
miss i on? He noted that this concept is being considered as
the financing vehicle for implementation of the Plan. Mr.
Haviland stated that a base line on tax revenues is established;
upon City Council action, bonds for improvements may be sold,
and i ncreases in tax revenues from existing and new develop-
ments would be used to retire those bonds. This would result
in no increase in the tax burden to those individuals within
the increment district and no increase in tax burden to the
general citizenry.
Mr . Tanguma asked that Mr. Haviland explain his definition
of "new development"; is this the demolition of existing
bus inesses and redevelopment? Mr. Tanguma noted that there
i s not much vacant land where new development could take place.
Mr . Haviland stated that the entire project area encompasses
7 2 acres; this would include areas for both public and private
development, and that there is quite a bit of vacann and under-
developed land that could be developed or put to better use.
Mr . Haviland presented the slide show. Mr. Haviland stated the
project goals the EDDA, the City, and the private developers
a r e working toward are the following:
1 . Strengthen the tax base.
2 . Expand the retail market and market area .
3. Encourage private investment through coordinated public
investment .
4. Expand the middle-income professional population, consistent
with the existing community.
5 . Create an attractive downtown as a focus for community
activity and pride.
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Mr. Haviland discussed the Management Team planning process
which has been shared by representatives of the City of · Engle-
wood, the EDDA, and Brady Enterprises, the private developer.
The project boundary was defined as Cinderella City on the west,
Floyd/Eastman Avenues on the north; the Broadway/Lincoln alley
on the east, and U.S. 285 on the south.
Slides were presented showing the ownership of large parcels
of land within the Plan area; among these larger ownerships
are sites owned by the First National Bank, First Interstate
Bank, the City-owned property leased by Mr. Herzog, and a large
parcel of land owned by Mrs. Holthaus.
A slide indicating the 100-year flood plain through the develop-
ment area was shown, and Ms. Powers discussed the problems that
the 100-year flood plain presents. Ms. Powers stated that the
design criteria of the proposed flood control program is under
consideration, and may be changed from that previously recormnended.
Also, the criteria used in the determination of rainfall amounts
is under reconsideration. The result of this study is at least
three or four weeks away. One of the possibilities that has
been considered in the flood control program is developing a
detention pond on the High School grounds as part of the improve-
ments to Little Dry Creek. Ms. Powers pointed out that the
proposed improvements to Little Dry Creek and the detention pond
could cost up to $7,000,000.
Ms. Becker noted that work is being done on Little Dry Creek
across Santa Fe; she asked if this section of the Creek would
be left open, or if it would be covered? Ms. Powers stated
that this is "reach one" of the improvements on Little Dry
Creek, and is proposed to be left an open channel. Mr. Haviland
stated that it is imperative that the flood plain issue be re-
solved before anything substantive can be done to improve the
downtown area.
The matter of utilities was considered; Mrs. Becker asked if
all information on the utilities locations is being tracked?
Mr. Haviland stated that they do have the engineering studies
on the utility systems; he noted that there might be some problem
with the location of older pipes. Ms. Powers stated that the
utility lines will have to come out on the Girard Avenue Mall;
they do not want to get the mall completed, and have to tear
it up shortly after completion because of some problem with a
utility line.
Mr. Haviland displayed slides depicting the major transportation
corridors, these major corridors being Santa Fe Drive, U.S. 285,
and South Broadway. Major access points to the downtown area
are indicated at U.S. 285/Hampden/Elati; Hampden Avenue and
South Broadway; and at Floyd Avenue and South Broadway. Ms .
Becker noted that there is a great problem getting in and out
of the downtown area; she asked what improvements to the access
pattern are being proposed in the Plan. Ms. Powers pointed
out that Hampden Place would be continued to the east which
would improve circulation in the area.
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Mr. Haviland and Ms. Powers indicated on the slides the pro-
posed locations of a possible RTD Transit Center and the loca-
tion of the light rail line.
Mr. Haviland stated that the thrust of the Plan is to provide
additional retail, office space, a hotel, and residential
quarters in the downtown area. There also need to be improve-
ments along South Broadway, and improvement of access into the
downtown area itself, and the flood plain issue does need to
be resolved.
Mr. Haviland noted that it is difficult for someone unfamiliar
with the area to realize what is "downtown Englewood". He
stated that the first major entrance is at Floyd Avenue and
Broadway; the second at Santa Fe Drive and U. S. 285; the
third at South Broadway and U.S. 285. Mr. Haviland indicated
that the proposed Plan suggests overhead pedestrian walkways
at U.S. 285 and South Elati Street and at U.S. 285/South
Bannock Street. Mr. Haviland stated that efforts are being
made in the proposed Plan to retain the "small-town" atmosphere
which is characteristic of Englewood, and which the community
has expressed a desire to retain. Mr. Haviland stated that
major public improvements would be those on the Girard Avenue
Mall, to Little Dry Creek, and improvements along South Broadway.
Actual new development would be a coordinated effort by the
public and private sectors.
Mr. Haviland then presented slides of development concepts,
such as a plaza in the downtown area. Mr. Haviland noted that
the Farmer's Market sponsored by DBA is a great success, and
he would envision that this would work in very well to the
plaza/mall concept. He felt similar projects should be en-
couraged to attract the pedestrian shopper . Mr. Haviland
stated that Little Dry Creek has great potential, and by im-
proving the stream bed, this could turn into an asset for the
downtown area.
Mr. Haviland stated that he felt Englewood has a great opportunity
to capture part of the hotel market. While Englewood cannot
compete with downtown Denver, the I-25 corridor is developing
very rapidly, and he felt that the City could attract some of
the smaller conference business if a hotel was developed. Mr.
Haviland pointed out that the hotel must be developed in con-
junction with the additional retail and office uses proposed;
it would not be feasible to develop the hotel alone. Mr.
Haviland stated that the proposed hotel/office space and re-
tail space development are inter-dependent. Mr. Haviland
stated that the City needs to create design guidelines that
will attract the private investment we want to encourage.
Mr. Haviland stated that the public investment in the mall
development and Little Dry Creek is estimated to be between
$15,000,000 and $20,000,000; it is hoped that the private in-
vestment in new development would be in the neighborhood of
$200,000,000.
Mr. Haviland stated that the walk-through from the parking
lot in the 3400 block of South Lincoln to South Broadway
should be completed by Christmas.
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• Councilman Bilo entered the meeting.
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Mrs. Becker asked where the pedestrians would c ome from that
this P l an anticipates? Mr. Haviland pointe d out the peripheral
parking a r e a s and proposed parking structure s . Mrs. Becker
stated that there is a maximum distance that people will walk,
and ques tioned that there would be any great volume of people
that wi l l walk from Cinderella City to Bro adway, for instance.
Mr. Havi land stated that the distance from Cin dere lla City
to Broadwa y would be the farthest that a pede s trian would walk,
but under t he proposed Plan, it would not be necessary for a
pedestri a n to walk that far. Mr. Haviland stated that he
would hope the mall could be developed int o an "attractive
adventure " which would encourage pedestrian traffic.
Ms. Beck e r connnented that she felt Marina Squ are is one of
the mos t attractive shopping areas in this vic i nity. She
stated t h a t s he would hope to see some similar d e v e l o pment in
the propo s e d plan area.
Mr. Tanguma stated that he felt the basic concept of this pro-
posed Pl an is very similar to the concept of previous studies
that hav e been done in Englewood. He stated that he felt one
of the pr imary questions that will be aske d by the citizenry
is how th is Plan is to be implemented?
Mr. Havi land stated that he felt there are new opportunities
that ma y not have been available at the time previous studies
were made . He again pointed out the tremendous growth that is
taking place along the I-25 corridor which he feels provides
great potential for redevelopment in areas such as downtown
Englewood. Mr. Tanguma stated that he felt the growth potential
has always been here; the City needs to "go out and find
someon e like Hilton to come up here and get it done."
Discus sion ensued. It was pointed out that there is a private
develop er working with the City and the Downtown Development
Authori ty at the present time. Ms. Powers stated that the
Development Authority can solicit developers, but it is dif-
ficult to do so unless there is a firm Plan and we know it is
what t he connnunity wants.
Mr. Dr aper asked the reaction of the developer to the proposed
Plan ? Ms. Powers stated that the developer is in favor of the
Plan.
Discus sion ensued. Ms. Powers stated that private investments
would not be made in redevelopment until the City makes a com-
mi tm e nt to a specific plan and to the public improvements.
Mr. Draper stated that he felt the City has made some connnitment
and that it is time to get commitments from the private sector .
Mr. Haviland stated that the proposed Plan needs public exposure;
thus far those who are familiar with the Plan are the Management
Team , c omposed of a representative from the Downtown Development
Authority, a representative from the private development firm,
and a representative from the City. He stated that he did not
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feel further progress could be made until an educational pro-
gram fo r the general public has been undertake n.
Discussion ensued. Ms. Powers pointed out that the possibility
of u sing tax increment financing for implementation of the Plan
is now available, since it has been succe ss fully tested in
Cour t. Also, the Downtown Development Authority, which is
comp rised of downtown businessmen and property owners, has
been formed and they have had an active part in the chasing of
the con sultant and the preparation of the Plan to improve the
downtown area. Mr. Tanguma pointed out that tax increment
financ i ng was discussed as a means of implentation in a plan
that was considered several years ago. Mr. Haviland pointea
out that the Downtown Development Authority does not have the
right of eminent domain, and that urban renewal was a prominent
featur e in the previous plan to which Mr. Tanguma referred;
also , that plan encompassed a much larger area and took in a
considerable portion of the residential area. The Plan that
has been developed by Design Workshop, Inc., is on a much
smaller scale, and encompasses only a portion of the business
distr ic t.
Ms. Be cker agreed that this Plan is scaled down in size con-
siderably from the previously considered plan. She stated
that she is greatly interested in the use of solar energy, and
asked if the private developer working on this Plan is con-
sidering the use of solar in any of his proposals? Ms. Powers
stated that use of solar design would be included in the policy
statements that have yet to be confirmed for this study area.
Ms. Be cker stated that she felt it was time for the City to
cons i der adding solar access guidelines to the codes and
ordina nces.
Ms . Powers asked members of the Collllllission if they felt the
general populace of Englewood realized that there is a problem
in t he downtown Englewood area, and that something must be
done ? Mr. Draper stated that he felt that we must show what
wi l l happen if something is not done. It should be emphasized
t hat the decay will increase; that this is happening right now.
Ms. Becker stated that she personally found South Broadway to
be a n unattractive street. She stated she felt the presentation
should show what needs to be done to improve the downtown shopping
area.
Mr . Draper stated he wanted to see some tangible connnitment
f rom the private sector --developers --before the City and
EDD A continue to put money into the Plan.
Mr. Tanguma stated he would like to see further contacts with
large developers, such as are working on the improvements in
downtown Denver . He stated he wanted to know how much land
had to be in a "package" to attract the large developers. Mr.
Haviland noted that Brady Enterprises has worked with the EDDA
fo r quite some time, and has invested in the development of the
P lan; this makes it rather awkward for the EDDA to solicit
other developers. Mr. Tanguma noted that hotel developers
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had expressed interest in areas of the City in the past, but
when it was determined that the City could not accommodate
such a development, they chose other locations.
Ms. Powers pointed out that the flood plain is still a problem
and inhibits new development in the downtown area. She sug-
gested that an addition be made to the presentation indicating
the development process from now on; showing what would have to
happen to reach a development agreement, and what would be re-
quired in such a development agreement.
Mr. Tanguma asked if there had been any contacts from developers
other than Brady? Ms. Powers stated that the staff and EDDA
have been approached by other developers, and the process has
been explained to them.
Mr. Haviland stated he felt the City/EDDA is in a good position
to address the needs of the downtown area and to decide how to
get what is wanted.
Ms. Powers stated that the Business District zoning standards
and design guidelines are tools that are needed before a de-
veloper can be invited to submit a proposal, so that the pro-
posal can be compared to a defined standard.
Mrs. Becker asked if the Plan is approved and the City commits
to it, do the citizens have to vote to approve the bonds? Ms.
Powers stated that if the financing vehicle chosen is that of
tax increment financing, an election would have to be held if
this were handled through EDDA. This election could not be
held before late December. She stated that we would have to
have a "Plan", and have determined what public improvements
are required; there would have to be an agreement with a de-
veloper that he would begin construction on the private develop-
ment at the time public improvements began. She estimated
that certain improvements could be started in early Spring.
Mr. McBrayer stated he wanted to review reasons it is felt this
Plan might work now, when previous studies and plans have failed .
He noted that he has heard a lot of comments from people re-
garding the number of vacant buildings in the 3400 block of
South Broadway. The vacant land that was in "transition" 10
years ago is still vacant, and it is evident that it is not
going to develop under the present conditions. He stated that
he thinks people are aware there is a problem, and that some-
thing must be done. Mr. McBrayer stated he felt the "composition"
of the City was changing, and that there is a younger age group
predominating in the City now than a few years ago.
Mr. Draper asked if the increased residential area would at-
tract families with children, thereby increasing the school
population? Mr. Haviland stated that the Plan does not address
"family" in the sense of children moving in; he felt the re-
development of the area could lead to an influx of families
with children into the school district in the future.
Mr. McBrayer suggested that the slides depict areas that are
defined by street names; he noted that no street names are in-
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dicated on the maps the slides were made from. Mr. Haviland
stated that the new slides will show street names.
Mr. McBrayer suggested that in presenting the Plan to the
general public, the point be made that when previous studies
were done, the majority of citizens were not aware of the
extent of the problem, and that the City has a more aggressive
citizenry now , and interest has been expressed in reaching a
solution to the downtown business area deterioration. He sug-
gested that reasons the Plan should be accepted now should be
stressed in the presentation.
Mr. Draper stated that he felt some of the public land proposed
for use could be offered as an enticement, and long-term lease
options could also be offered.
Ms. Powers stated she felt the issue of "high-rises" should be
addressed. She noted that the square footage discussed in the
proposed Plan will mean "height". She pointed out that this
could mean 10 -15 story buildings --not 60 story skyscrapers
--but certainly people have to realize it is going to mean
structures above two stories.
Ms. Becker stated that like it or not, we are looking to a
time when land will not be available for everyone to own a
"single-fami ly home". She emphasized the need to build for
families with children in the multi-use buildings; there needs
to be access for the kids to get out doors; the space inside
the living quarters needs to be appropriately designed for
children , and inclusion of day-care centers should be encouraged.
Mr.McBrayer suggested that records of meetings on consideration
of the most recent previous plan be reviewed.
Mr. Draper asked if the Flood Plain improvements would have to
be done if the Plan itself were to be disapproved. Ms. Powers
stated that the Little Dry Creek Flood Plain is a problem, and
has to be solved.
Mr. Haviland stated he felt the development of the downtown
area is a very significant planning issue that must be con-
fronted , and should rank in importance with the City's decision
to own their own water. It will have an impact on what happens
to the City of Englewood, and our continuance as a full-service
city. There is a need for greater economic diversification to
broaden the tax base beyond what Cinderella City can provide.
Mr. Draper suggested it might be pointed out what would have
happened to the City if the decision to own our own water had
not been made.
Mr. Haviland emphasized the great development potential that
exists in the south metro area and stated it is critical that
the City capture a share of it now.
Mrs. Becker stated that she hoped the City could realize at
least one nice, comfortable, elegant restaurant in this re-
development.
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Mr. Haviland thanked the Planning Commission members for their
time and comments.
III. MISCELLANEOUS.
Ms. Powers stated that a presentation on the Cherry Hills
Village Hotel to the Planning Commission has been scheduled
for November 17th.
The first public meeting on the Sign Code will be on September
22nd in the Library Conference Room. Ms. Powers reported that
she had met with Assistant City Attorney Tom Holland regarding
some of the questions raised at the meeting of September 9th.
Mr. Holland has indicated that a revision to the Code can state
that vehicles in a car dealership with prices indicated on
them will not be considered as a sign or advertising device.
Ms. Becker asked about the sign atop the First National Bank;
it is a roof sign and will become non-conforming if the pro-
posed Sign Code is approved as presently written. Discussion
ensued. Mrs. Romans stated that concern regarding roof signs
was expressed previously by the Fire Department; the weight
of the sign can lead to a quicker collapse of the roof in the
event of a fire, or a roof sign can hinder access if the firemen
must maneuver over and/or around it. Brief discussion followed.
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 P.M.
A~ Ad4-Gertrude G. Welty
Recording Secretary