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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
October 5, 1982
I. CALL TO ORDER.
The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called
to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Ed McBrayer.
Members present: Stoel, Tanguma, Allen, Becker, Carson, Gilchrist,
McBrayer
Romans, Acting Ex-officio
Members absent: Senti, Barbre
Also present: Senior Planner Susan T. King
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Chairman McBrayer stated that the Minutes of September 21, 1982, were to
be considered for approval.
Carson moved!
Tanguma seconded: The Minutes of the meeting of September 21, 1982, be
approved as written.
AYES: Stoel, Tanguma, Allen, Becker, Carson, McBrayer
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Gilchrist
ABSENT: Barbre, Senti
The motion carried.
III. VIDEO GAME ARCADE
3439 South Lincoln
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Chairman McBrayer stated that the public hearing which had been scheduled
for this date and time on the request for a video game arcade at 3439 South
Lincoln has been cancelled; the request for approval has been withdrawn.
IV. ITHACA INVESTMENT COMPANY
Parking Layout
Lots 6 -25 , Block 6, Englewood
CASE //24-82
Mr. McBrayer stated that members of the Planning and Zoning Commission
were in receipt of the staff report pertaining to the proposed parking
lot layout submitted by Ithaca Investment Company. He asked if there
were questions regarding the staff report from members of the Commission?
Mr. Tanguma asked how much right-of-way would be needed along West Ithaca
Avenue if a one-way couplet with Ithaca and U.S. 285 is developed. Mrs.
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Romans stated that it is hoped that the one-way street can be developed
within the existing 60 foot right-of-way; it might be necessary to have
a radius for the transition from this property, but understood that the
applicants had taken this possibility into consideration in their planning.
Mr. McBrayer stated that he understood the staff had an addendum to the
staff report; he asked that this be explained.
Ms. Susan King stated that when Mr. Anderson, the applicant, initially
contacted the staff about the proposed development, the proposal was to
have 40 dwelling units in the mixed use development; the plans have been
revised, however, and the latest figure is 48 dwelling units in this pro-
posal. Ms. King cited figures required to meet the minimum off-street
parking for the proposed mixed-use development, and noted that the develop-
ment will be deficient 28 off-street parking spaces. However, the applicant
does propose a joint use of parking areas provided for the residential and
office areas, and it is the opinion of the staff that this is a feasible
solution to the parking space deficiency.
Mr. Gilchrist asked what affect approval of this proposal would have on
the Master Street Plan if the one-way couplet were approved in the future?
Ms. King stated that if the couplet were approved, more land would be
opened for development; it would not change the off-street parking require-
ments, however. Mr. Gilchrist asked if the couplet would require condemna-
tion of land. Ms. King stated that she was not aware that it would require
condemnation, but that she really could not answer that question. Mrs.
Romans reiterated her earlier statement that it was hoped the one-way
traffic could be handled within the existing 60 foot right-of-way. Mrs.
Romans pointed out that the couplet has not been designed at this point in
time. Mrs. Romans pointed out that the City has recommended the one-way
couplet be implemented for the last several years; it has not yet been
funded by the State Highway Department.
Mrs. Becker noted that the staff report indicates 102 off-s treet parki ng
spaces are shown; she stated that the plans before her indicate only 70
spaces. Ms. King pointed out that 32 spaces are shown in a lot to the
south of West Ithaca Avenue. Discussion ensued. Ms. King pointed out .
that the residential units are all one-bedroom, with a minimum of 750
sq. ft. floor area, which does meet the minimum floor area requirements
of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. McBrayer asked the applicant if he would like to address the Commission.
Mr. T. W. Anderson stated that he has had this property for 10 years; the
Hampden Center was built in 1972, and they have been trying to determine
the best use for the remainder of their ownership. Mr. Anderson discussed
the possible imposition of the one-way couplet along West Ithaca Avenue,
and noted that the land to the south of West Ithaca Avenue is largely un-
developed, and if additional right-of-way were to be needed, it could be
obtained from the south side of the right-of-way. Mr. Anderson stated that
they did attempt to design the proposed development taking into considera-
tion the possibility of the couplet being built. Mr. Anderson stated that
he feels their proposed development will be unique and will provide addi-
tional living quarters for people in this area. He stated that they had
contacted Exxon regarding the proposed development. Exxon employs ap-
proximately 600 people; the contact at Exxon indicated to Mr. Anderson's
representatives that they felt strongly that their employees could take
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at least one-half of the proposed re$idential units. Mr. Anderson stated
that they plan to proceed with construction as soon as they gain the ap-
proval of the City.
Ms. Becker discussed her concerns on the deficiency of provided off-street
parking; she pointed out that while the parking for the office use will only
be used from 8 A.M. to 5 P.M., if Exxon employees do actually take a large
share of the residential units, she felt there might be problems because
they would be in walking distance of their place of employment and would
want to leave their vehicles at home .. Mr. Anderson stated that he felt
people who would be living in these units would drive their cars to work.
Mr. Anderson further pointed out that it is his feeling that the parking
ratio for office buildings is high in Englewood, the ratio being one (1)
space for each 300 sq. ft. of rentable floor area; he noted that this ratio
was in effect when the Hampden Center was constructed, and they now find
that approximately 30% of the parking spaces are vacant on a day-to-day
basis. He stated that he felt a ratio of 1:500 sq. ft. was more realistic,
and that this would still give ample parking.
Mr. Stoel asked if the parking lot across the street was proposed to be
landscaped? Mr. Anderson stated that he feels they will have to put in
some landscaping, even though it is not shown on the Plan.
Mr. McBrayer asked if Mr. Anderson was saying that roughly the same per-
centage of landscaping would be installed in the lot to the south of West
Ithaca Avenue as would be installed on the primary site? Mr. McBrayer asked
if Mr. Anderson had any problem installing some shrubbery or trees as opposed
to just grass. Mr. Anderson stated that he could have a problem depending
on who determines the amount of landscaping and type of landscaping that
would be required.
Mr. Bob Sinkeldan, associate of Mr. T. W. Anderson, stated that one problem
that could arise with the landscaping could be if a sprinkling system were
required. He stated that it would be their intention to avoid high-main-
tenance plantings, particularly on the parking lot to the south of West
Ithaca Avenue. He stated that a sprinkling system would be installed in
the primary parking lot. Mr. McBrayer asked how they would propose to main-
taip the landscaping in the south lot? Mr. Anderson stated that they would
have a caretaker, and would make sure that a source of water is available
on the site. Discussion ensued. Mr. Allen stated that he felt there was
a waste of water with sprinkling systems; that if they are not set properly,
the water drains into the streets and does not serve the purpose for which
it was intended. He felt that in many instances, hand watering was much
more efficient. Mr. Allen stated that he did not feel the Commission should
be that concerned about what "may" happen on Ithaca Avenue as far as the
one-way couplet goes; he noted that development cannot be impeded because
of something that may happen in the future.
Mr. Tanguma asked about the minimum
Mrs. Romans stated that the minimum
stated that they had developed some
minimum floor area was 450 sq. ft •
units are quite large and livable .
floor area for a one-bedroom unit?
i s 650 sq. ft . floor area. Mr. Anderson
uni ts on South Bannock Street, and the
He stated that these new residential
Mr. McBrayer asked if cnyone else wished to speak in favor of the proposal?
No further member of the audience spoke in favor of the proposal.
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Mr. Tanguma asked if the Commission had to approve the parking lot across
the street south of West Ithaca Avenue. Mrs. Romans stated that only lots
with more than 50 spaces ar~ subject to consideration by the Commission.
Mr. McBrayer stated that inasmuch as it is being used in conjunction with
the basic use across Ithaca Avenue to the north, he felt it is being con-
sidered by the Commission at this time.
Mr. McBrayer asked if anyone wanted to speak in opposition? No opposition
by any member of the audience was expressed.
Mrs. Becker stated that she would be reluctant to act on this request un-
til determination is made on the type of landscaping that will be installed,
and what will b~ installed in addition to grass. Mrs. Becker again ex-
pressed her concern over the insufficiency of off-street parking. She
stated if the downtown area of Englewood is redeveloped and uses are per-
mitted that do not provide suffi~ient 9ff-street parking, she felt that
the City was asking for problems. ·
Mr. Allen stated that an analysis on problems with the housing industry
indicates that one of the problems is restrictions placed by governmental
agencies. He pointed out that the cost of ground and size of units must
be taken into consideration in the cost of housing and rental units that
people can afford.
Mr. McBrayer stated that Mr. Anderson has gone on record as saying that
the parking lot to the south across West Ithaca Avenue would be landscaped
with a similar percentage as provided on the larger lot on the north side
of Ithaca, and that maintenance of the landscaping would be taken care of.
He stated that he would not have any problem considering a decision on
this matter at this meeting.
Mr. Gilchrist stated that he appreciated Mrs. Becker's concern, and would
also like to support Mr. McBrayer's point of view. He stated that Mr.
Anderson has done some developments in Englewood, and feels he will do a
good job on this latest development.
Mr. Tanguma asked if landscaping were to be provided in the parking lot
to the south of West Ithaca Avenue, would this affect the number of off-
street parking spaces that the lot could contain? Mr. Paul Maybury,
architect for the proposed development, stated that the landscaping
would be between the sidewalk and the property line --around the peri-
meter of the site. He pointed out that this site has two street frontages,
and that the area between the sidewalk and the property line could be
grassed, with maybe some junipers and small trees planted in this area.
Mr. McBrayer asked if Mr. Maybury agreed that the same percentage of land-
scaping could be placed on the lot to the south of Ithaca Avenue as on the
lot to the north of Ithaca Avenue? Mr. Maybury stated that he felt the
same percentage ratio could apply.
Carson moved:
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Tanguma seconded: The Off-street Parking Plan submitted by Ithaca Invest-
ment Company be approved by the Planning and Zoning Com-~
mission with the following conditions:
1. Landscaping shall be provided and maintained.
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2. A recorded easement for utility service shall be
provided as required by the Utilities Department.
3. All broken or cracked curb, gutter, and sidewalks
adjacent to the property must be replaced prior to
issuing the Certificate of Occupancy.
4. All old curb cuts shall be closed and new curb cuts
shall follow City standards.
5. Longer turning radii for emergency vehicle access
shall be required at points of ingress and egress.
6. For better ingress and egress to the mixed use de-
velopment, a 50-foot separation between the inter-
section at West Ithaca Avenue and South Inca Street
and at West Ithaca Avenue and South Jason Street
and the two proposed curb cuts to the south should
be maintained.
7. An agreement signed by the owner of the land to be
used for off-site parking should be submitted committing
that land to this use. This agreement should be re-
corded in the office of the Arapahoe County Clerk and
Recorder. If, for any reason, the land cannot be used
for this purpose in the future, equivalent off-street
parking must be provided within 400 feet of the property
on which the principal use is located.
Mrs. Becker stated that she felt the Commission is in error to approve this
parking lot layout without the appropriate number of off-street parking
spaces being provided. She stated that she strongly felt a deficiency of
28 spaces is too many to be deficient. Mr. McBrayer stated that he felt
this deficiency can be compensated by the joint use which is permitted by
the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance.
The vote was called:
AYES: Tanguma, Allen, Carson, Gilchrist, Stoel, McBrayer
NAYS: Becker
ABSENT: Barbre, Senti
The motion carried.
V. PROMOTE ENGLEWOOD BROCHURE.
Mr. McBrayer reviewed consideration of the Promote Englewood Brochure that
was discussed at the last regula~ m~eting of September 21st and at the
special meeting on September 28th. Mr. McBrayer stated that it was the
consensus that he and Mr. Tanguma would appear before the City Co~ncil to
discuss what the Commission has considered in regard to the brochure. Mr.
McBrayer stated that he understood Ms. Emelene Russell had indicated she
did not want to do further work on this brochure unless she was assured of
payment, that she has already put in 25 hours on this project, and pre-
ferred not to do anything more on her own. Mr. McBrayer stated that he
did not feel the Commission and/or staff can commit to anything at this
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point in time, that this must be a determination of the City Council. He •
stated that he and Mr. Tanguma would attend the October 18th City Council
study session to discuss this matter. Mr. McBrayer stated that he had spoken
to several businessmen in the community; they had indicated that while they
did not feel there would be a direct benefit to their business as a result
of the brochure, they indicated that they would consider contributing to
the campaign.
Mr. Allen asked the scope of distribution of the brochure? Mr. McBrayer
stated that discussion had centered on businesses and people who might try
to encourage people to come to Englewood, such as the Chamber of Commerce,
realtors, etc. He stated that one of the banks he had contacted indicated
they would consider including a brochure like this in their packets they
distribute in response to inquiries. Mr. McBrayer stated that there would
not be an actual mailing list, but would be sent on request.
Mr. Allen asked if this was being done because of the downtown redevelopment,
and were they going to contribute to the project? He asked about the pro-
jected budget? Mr. McBrayer stated that Ms. Russell had prepared a rough
estimate on her proposal, which was $20,00o+. Mr. Gilchrist asked if this
was just for the initial pr~nting, or did it include costs for up-dating?
It was pointed out that the brochure itself was proposed to be pretty
"generic", and that the up-dated information could be inserted into the
pocket proposed for the back cover 1 Mr. McBrayer stated that he and Mr.
Tanguma would make a great effort to convince the City Council of the need
for such a brochure.
Mr. Tanguma asked Mr. Gilchrist and Mr. Allen if they had any suggestions
to add? Mr. Gilchrist asked if firms who may contribute to the publication
of the brochure would be listed within the brochure? Mr. McBrayer indicated
that it was the intent that the brochure not be commercialized in this re-
gard. Mr. Gilchrist asked if the banks and other contributors would be
allowed to include advertising in whatever packets they wished to insert
in the pocket of the brochure? Mr. McBrayer stated that this would be
permissible.
VI. LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE CASE 118-82
Mr. McBrayer stated that the proposed Landscaping Ordinance would be dis-
cussed at a Public Meeting on October 14th along with a proposed Downtown
Development Zone District. Mr. McBrayer stated that it is proposed that
the Downtown Development D~strict be considered first at that meeting,
and that Mr. Stoel then give a short presentation on the proposed Landscaping
Ordinance. A second meeting has been suggested for November 16th, at which
time, a full presentation on the Landscaping Ordinance would be made to
property owners and businessmen in the B-1, B-2, I-1, and I-2 Zone Dis-
tricts. Mr. McBrayer stated that it is proposed that slides be prepared
showing existing businesses without landscaping, and what the result could
be with landscaping.
Mr. Gilchrist asked that the slides also depict establishments that are ~
well landscaped at the present time. He suggested that this slide pre-
sentation also depict the City-owned lot across Floyd Avenue from the
Yellow Front store, which contains a large sign giving directions to parking.
Mr. Gilchrist stated that the oµly greenery on this City-owned property
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are broken green bottles; Mr. Gilchrist stated that he feels it is the
"height of hypocrisy" for the City to institute a landscaping ordinance
requiring other establishments to install and maintain landscaping in
light of the condition of this lot and other City-owned sites. Mr. Gil-
christ stated that he felt the City should clean up its own yard before
going to the citizens with more regulations and restrictions.
Mr. McBrayer asked if there were any further comments? He stated that he
would like to have something to get to staff in time to get it typed and
ready for discussion on October 14th.
Mr. Stoel asked whether members felt the creation of a City Landscaping
and Fine Arts Fund was a good idea? He stated that he personally does
favor such a fund. He stated that he could not. think of a more equitable
way to treat property owners who do provide landscaping and those who do
not provide it. He stated that the matter of pro-ration of the contribution
had been discussed based on whether or not a minimal amount of landscaping
could be provided; he asked how this could be written.
Mr. Tanguma stated that if it is proposed to "force people to do something",
we should allow them to install a planter on the public sidewalk in front
of their business and determine that this would be sufficient without a
contribution to the Fine Arts Fund. Discussion ensued. Mr. Stoel questioned
whether it is equitable to exp.ect someone constructing a new building to
provide more landscaping than someone who is only remodeling would have to
provide. Mr. Stoel asked how individuals who are not willing to do land-
scaping or contribute to the fund voluntarily should be handled? Mr. Tanguma
stated that the City should "buy him out and do what you want." Mr. Gilchrist
stated that "you are taking his property; pay him for it." Discussion ensued.
Mr. Stoel stated that he felt we needed something to discuss with the busi-
nessmen at the meeting on October 14th. Mr. Gilchrist cited the downtown
area on South Broadway, where there is no setback; he stated that it was
obvious when those buildings were constructed there was no required setback,
but under the proposed provisions he felt these property owners would be
penalized by this Commission, and the City would be putting impediments on
the sale of the property by those individuals. Discussion ensued.
Mr. McRrayer suggested that Mr. Stoel prepare a draft for the staff to
prepare for the meeting of October 14th, and that the pro-ration factor
should be included.
Mr. Mc&rayer stated that the Community Bank is constructing a new building
on South Broadway; he has discussed the proposed landscaping ordinance with
some of their representatives; they have indicated that they propose to
landscape approximately 9.5% of their property, which would be done voluntarily.
VII. COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE
Proposed Amendments
CASE /122-82
Mrs. Romans stated that the first draft of proposed amendments to the
residential Zone Districts was presented at the last regular meeting.
The staff is working on proposed amendments to the business and industrial
zone districts, which will be presented later. The staff is suggesting
that a Saturday morning work session be scheduled to thoroughly review
these proposed amendments --beginning at around 9:00 A.M. and extending
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until 12 Noon or 1:00 P.M. The dates of November 13th or November 20th
were suggested as a possibility. Mr. McBrayer asked that members of the ·
Commission determine whether they could attend a work session on either
of these two dates, and be ready to report back at the next regular meeting
of October 19th.
Mr. McBrayer discussed the requirements proposed and in existence for a
detached garage versus an attached garage. He questioned the rationale
of the required setbacks. Discussion ensued. Mrs. Romans stated that if
the Commission has concerns regarding setbacks, now is the time to consider
them during the reviiion of the Zoning Ordinance. She stated that she per-
sonally felt that the most usable open space should be in the rear yard,
and that perhaps consideration should be given to the reduction of front
and/or rear setbacks. She noted that fire protection would require there
be setbacks between structures.
Mr. Allen discussed some of the provisions for lot area in the R-1-B Zone
District which require the purchase of three 25-foot lots to meet the minimum
60-foot frontage requirements, even though the total three lots are not
needed. Discussion ensued. Mrs. Romans pointed out that there are not
many vacant lots in the R-1-B Zone District, which requires 7,200 square
feet for minimum lot area; she noted that this area which is zoned R-1-B
was subdivided with 60 foot frontage on the majority of the lots. Mrs.
Romans pointed out that the proposed revisions to the Zoning Ordinance do
contain a provision that would allow construction in the R-1-B Zone Dis-
trict on a 50 foot lot if there were no adjoining land available.
Vacant lots in Englewood were discussed. Mr. McBrayer stated that he had
viewed a map in the Planning Off ice which indicated the vacant lots through-
out the City. He suggested that other members might want to view this map,
also. He asked if the staff could recall how many building sites there
would be available? Ms. King stated that as she recalled, 6 % of the total
land area was available for development; she emphasized that this included
vacant land in the industrial and business districts as well as vacant land
in the residential areas. Mrs. Romans stated that as she recalled, there
would be less than 100 residential lots available for development.
Mr. Tanguma made reference to the Home Occupation section of the R-1-A
District, which section made reference to an inspection by the Department
of Community Development and the Fire Department. He asked what the De-
partment of Community Development would be looking for in an inspection?
Mrs. Romans stated that one of the things to be included in the review
would be the nature of the Home Occupation, whether there was a lot of
storage entailed in the Home Occupation, and the type of materials being
stored. It was pointed out by Mr s . Romans that Home Occupations are not
permitted in the R-1-A Zone District at the present time. Further brief
discussion ensued.
VIII. PUBLIC FORUM.
Mr. McBrayer noted that no one was present to address the Commission under
this section of the Agenda.
IX. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE.
Mrs. Romans formally announced the birth of Gregory Daniel Iturreria, who
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became an Englewood citizen on September 27, 1982. Proud parents are
Mr. and Mrs. Julio Iturreria (Susan Powers).
Mrs. Romans stated that the State Highway Work Program for 83/84 was con-
sidered by the City Council at their meeting of October 4, 1982. City
Council removed from the request the Oxford/Santa Fe Drive interchange
and the improvement of South Clarkson from U.S. 285 south to Orchard
Avenue. These amendments will be made before the request is submitted to
the Arapahoe County Commissioners.
Mrs. Romans discussed a new procedure that has been instituted in the
Planning Division, which is being called the "buddy system"; the initial
person contacted by the developer, or the staff person whose skills most
closely approximate the need of a particular developer is assigned to
work with that developer from first contact to completion of the project.
Mrs. Romans stated that it is felt this will be a very workable innovation.
Mr. McBrayer suggested that perhaps some similar system should be instituted
in the Building Division. Discussion ensued. Mrs. Romans discussed the
reorganization of the Building and Planning Divisions of the Department of
Community Development.
X. COMMISSIONER'S CHOICE.
Mr. Allen stated that in regard to problems with obtaining building permits,
it had taken him two months in Denver to get a permit for remodeling a
structure. He added that he had not had that delay in Englewood.
The meeting adjourned at 8:35 P.M .