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ENGLEWOOD URBAN RENEWAL AUTHORITY
March 22, 2006
I. CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Englewood Urban Renewal Autho1·ity was called to order at 6:00 p.m.
in the Community Development Conference Room of the Eng l ewood Civic Center, Chair
Bertoluzzi presiding.
Present:
Absent:
Staff:
Eric Berto lu zzi, Anthony Gallardo, Don Roth, Rob in Weddle, Jim Woodward, Tom
Burns
Laura Rogers (excused absence)
Vic Ca l onder (excused absence)
Mark Graham, Senior Plann er
Harold St itt, Community Development Manager
Robert Simpson, Di r ector
11. ACOMA REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
Chair Bertoluzzi turned the floor over to Mr. Dan Brotzman, Englewood C ity Attorney. Mr.
Brotzman stated Counci l met on Ma1·ch 20[11 in an Executive Session regarding the Acoma
Redeve lopment proposals. Discussion centered around which developer to recommend to staff
to pursue negotiations with. Counc il did not make a public stateme nt. Their recommendation
was for staff to discuss w ith EURA their feelings of which developer they would like to see go
forwa rd . However, since a public statement was not made, Mr. Brotzman requested an Executive
Session.
Burns moved:
Roth seconded:
The Motion carried.
Discussion ensued.
Burns moved:
Roth seconded:
TO HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESS ION ON REAL ESTATE UNDER 24-64-028
TO DISCUSS COUNCIL BEING A PROPERTY OWNER TO DISCUSS WITH
EURA, BEING THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNER, THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT
WHICH DEVELOPER TO CHOOSE.
TO LEAVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION
AYES:
NAYS:
Bertoluzzi, Gallardo, Roth, Woodward, Burns, Weddle
None
ABSTA I N: None
ABSENT: Rogers
The motion cari·ied.
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Mr. Bertoluzzi stated he wanted everyone to have an opportunity to voice their op1n1on
regarding the proposals. He asked Mr. Simpson if he had brought a Resolution to the meeting.
Mr. Simpson replied he did. Mr. Bertoluzzi asked who wanted to start the discussion.
Mr. Burns stated even though he had missed the last two meetings and had not met either
developer, he felt Centex was taking the more conservative route. He said he felt the Englewood
Lofts proposal was a more exciting proposal with the theatre and even if the theatre went dark,
there were other development opportunities.
Mr. Simpson said there is the issue that was dealt with at City Center; if the big box or one single
user type concept goes away it leaves a dark spot in the project. There were concerns that while
there is reusability, it does leave it dark for a period of time and there is risk associated with that.
Mr. Simpson stated he thought there was more support for the smaller multiple users from a
retail standpoint. He also said he believed one of the things that helped sway the discussion was
the fact that Centex's architecture may have been more exciting, much more focused on good
urbanism principles.
Chai· Bertoluzzi next asked for Ms. Weddle's opinion. She stated that since she missed the last
two meetings she is trying to catch up and did not have a comment at this time.
Chair Bertoluzzi asked for Mr. Roth's opinion. He stated he was a little disappointed in Council's
choice, but understands Council's reasoning. He felt the Englewood Lofts proposal would do
more to activate the downtown. Adding a few more retail uses to that corner might help a little
bit, but it is not really going to make a huge impact on downtown. Basically, that is why he felt
the other proposal had more potential, but he understood the economic factor makes it a little
tough to swallow. He stated he could support either one. His biggest reservation with Centex
was their original proposal to the Committee was pure garbage. When they actually came to the
meeting they had changed it substantially. That first night with what they had provided the
Committee, without having spoken to them, his thoughts were they are wasting their time and
the Committee's time too. Mr. Woodward agreed:
Mr. Bertoluzzi stated that was why he was surprised as he had heard a comment two meetings
ago about the flat use of their original proposal. Mr. Roth stated the original building they had
proposed had been built many times somewhere else. He said that makes him a little nervous;
we need to make sure we have a sound contract so they can't back out at the last minute. Even
in their latest proposal they leave themselves an out, basically saying there may not be enough
Janel to do what the City wants to do.
Mr. Bertoluzzi noted that was an interesting observation.
Mr. Burns asked the Authority what their impression was of Centex's latest presentation. Mr. Roth
said the presentation was much more than what was presented in the original proposal.
Mr. Woodward said his opinion of the original Centex proposal was that it looked like a boiler
plate letter with a boiler plate development package pulled right off the shelf. Then when they
did the actual presentation a week later, after they had really focused on it... .. Mr. Roth interjected
they then had someone else to do the retail development and had hired an architect. Those
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aspects were missing from the written proposal. Mr. Roth stated he also had a concern how to
maintain parking for the rest of the businesses, because they are definitely shorting the other
businesses with their parking plan.
Mr. Bertoluzzi ca ll ed on Mr. Ga ll ardo for his op 1n1 on. He stated after listening to both
presentat ions there were a coup le of things he noticed. Neither developers mentioned children
in their presentations. In his mind he said the Authority is the C ity of Englewood, we are looking
to the future. The condos are bringing in fami li es. Are they go ing to be lon g-te rm residents? He
said another thought he had, regarding Centex, was they mentioned they were go in g to bring in
restaurants that cate r to breakfast, lunch and d inn er crowds. He wonders how is that going to
impact the alr eady established restaurants in that neighborhood. In his mind, he feels the fast
food restaurants will push the long-established restaurants out.
Mr. Berto lu zzi stated everyo n e had a copy of Ms. Rogers' email. H e wanted to point o ut Ms.
Rogers raised three questions as he read it. One, is the roof of the ga rage and why there isn't a
creative plan such as having the Museum of Outdoor Arts up there. Also , she mentioned open
space and the fact there was n othing in the Centex proposal regarding open space . Finally, there
was nothing that would bring about a tourist element. Mr. Bertoluzzi felt a ll three are good issues
to bring up, but when he read through the Request for Proposal's Public Objectives section,
none of the three issues were mentioned as a requirement. He stated it is unfair to pena li ze a
developer for something that was not in the Request for Proposal.
Mr. Simpson said he would co n cur and thought Mr. Gallardo's comments were good to hear. He
stated a lot of the comments being heard are design related. What is important at this time is to
remember we are at a very preliminary step. The goa l here is to ente r into a re lationship with a
potential developer and do we believe a particular concept more genera ll y meets the needs than
another, and do we have the abi lity to work w ith that partic ul ar developer. Both developers have
an expectation of working with the community, but there is still design and wo rk to be done.
While they have genera l concepts and d ir ections, they are going to take public comment and
input as they move along.
Mr. Burns stated h e thought th e Authority had said they felt more at hom e working w ith the
Eng l ewood Lofts people rather than the Centex people. Centex gave the impression they were
ready to ro ll at the drop of a hat and Eng lewood Lofts seemed more responsive to community
needs .
Mr. Simpson said he wo uld feel very comfortab le wo rkin g with eith er developer. They are both
very solid and have good financial capacity . Also, both have very good arch itects. What it comes
down to is comfort leve l and understanding what a particular proposal may do for the
community and whether we have the capacity to accomp li sh that.
Mr. Woodward asked Mr. Simpson to clarify how Centex and Landon fit together in the
negotiating process. Centex is referred to as the purchaser but in Study Session and in their
presentation Landon talks about how they are long-term ow n ers .
Mr. Simpson stated Centex a nd Landon wou ld probab ly enter into a partnership by which they
will work together on the development project and there w ill probably be some sort of structure
created. It is that private contractua l structure that wi ll all ow Landon to take ultimate possession
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of the property. Mr. Simpson said his expectation as the City enters into the negotiations, while
they may be separate ownership, it is important the process works in a unified manner. From a
negotiation standpoint, his hopes are to deal with one individual or a team of individuals that
have the capacity to represent.
Mr. Woodward noted what he had heard in the presentation was that the Englewood Lofts
people expected to build the theatre and then sell it to Cinema Grill. Mr. Simpson stated that was
correct. Mr. Woodward noted another comment that came out at the Study Session presentation
by Englewood Lofts was that the corner of Acoma and Englewood Parkway was shown as
residential. There seemed to be a pretty strong feeling there should be more opportunity for a
retail/commercial type of development in that particular area.
Mr. Simpson stated what Mr. Woodward refers to specifically is the corner of Englewood
Parkway and Acoma. Englewood Lofts showed it as a kind of brownstone rowhouse residential
unit versus first floor retail. It's about 3,000 plus square feet, not a large area. There was an initial
suggestion that configuration would not work for them, then they said they would look at it. Mr.
Simpson stated it's a design related issue and if it became important to the City, the City would
look at it and try to make sure it could happen. Englewood Lofts felt they had provided an
adequate level of retail on their plan.
Mr. Bertoluzzi shared his personal opinions regarding the proposals. He felt it was too early to
begin looking at various deta ils of the project, those things will surface in time during the
negotiation process, if there is one. He stated the Authority would be making a recommendation
tonight. He stated for him the project has never been solely about land and buildings, but about
people. First of all, the people who have conceived the project and the RFP and the Community
Development Department. He feels they are very talented, skilled and experienced people.
Secondly, are the people who become the developers and architects, the people who will live in
the development and those who might visit. When he evaluated the two proposals based on the
criteria he has heard, it was very clear to him that he favored the Centex team. They have an
impressive history of success, they specialize in corner properties and those properties have been
award winning and the group has been a Fortune 500 company since the 1980's. That's
sustained greatness and none of that happens by accident. Most of all he thought the architect
was a superstar. What Mr. Bertoluzzi heard him say was that he does not like repetition. There
will be a variety of residential units, some for the well off and some for families who may bring
children who will attend Englewood schools, which is certainly needed because the enrollment
has dropped dramatically. The architect also sees the property as a challenge. It is a difficult
property due to the fact it does not sit directly on Broadway, but behind the Broadway buildings.
Finally, Mr. Bertoluzzi stated he was so impressed with them, that in his mind the biggest
roadblock to the project, which is the parking issue, diminishes in his mind because the City may
end up with something that does provide Englewood with a very, very special destination. He
once again stated he is very much in favor of voting to approve the Centex proposal and the
Resolution to allow Community Development to commence negotiations with Centex.
Mr. Burns once again stated he had missed the past few meetings, but was very impressed with
how Mr. Bertoluzzi diligently formed his opinion, had expressed himself very well and was very
impressed with what Mr. Bertoluzzi had to say.
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Mr. Bertoluzzi asked for the Resolution to be read to the Authority. Mr. Graham read the
Resolution .
Mr. Burns asked Mr. Simpson what happens if the Authority disagrees with Council's choice of
Preferred Developer. Mr. Simpson stated the option would be to bring both Boards together for
a discussion. Ms. Rogers said she liked that idea. Mr. Bertoluzzi said a joint meeting with City
Council would be an interesting experience, but was not sure that was the role the Authority is
supposed to play. His feeling is, the Authority's job is to gather the information needed to make a
recommendation to City Council. The Authority should be diligent about gathering the
information, revealing the information, examining it, studying it, and then have a discussion and
come to an agreement one way or the other so that the process can move forward.
Burns moved:
Gallardo seconded: THE CENTEX PROPOSAL BE APPROVED.
Discussion ensued regarding the motion. Mr. Bertoluzzi asked for a vote on the motion.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Bertoluzzi, Gallardo, Roth, Burns, Weddle
None
None
Rogers
The motion carried .
111. RESOLUTION
Burns moved:
Roth seconded: A RESOLUTION OF THE ENGLEWOOD URBAN RENEWAL AUTHORITY
AUTHORIZING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF TO ENTER INTO
NEGOTIATIONS WITH A DEVELOPER DESIGNATED BY THE
ENGLEWOOD URBAN RENEWAL AUTHORITY FOR THE SALE AND
DEVELOPMENT OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE EURA,
KNOWN AS THE ACOMA PROPERTY.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Bertoluzzi, Gallardo, Roth, Burns, Weddle
None
None
Rogers
The motion carried.
There was no further business to come before the Authority; the meeting was declared
adjourned at 7:00 p.m ..
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