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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1963-10-10 PZC MINUTESPage 726 Miles moved: The meeting be adjourned. The meeting was declared adjourned on motion at 9:50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Gertrude G. Welty Recording Secretary * * * * ~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I. CALL TO ORDER. CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION October 10, 1963 Regular Session The meeting was called to order at 8:17 pm by Chairman Rice. Present: Miles; Love; Touchton; Rice; Carlson Romans, Ex-officio Absent: Hill Also present: J. K. Smith, Roman Bachus, R.J. Tucker, John Jameson, Jack Eachon, Ray Ludwig II. Consideration of minutes of the previous meeting was postponed to a later time in consideration of the audience. III. Mr. Rice introduced Mr. R. J. Tucker who spoke of his desire to annex his property on the southwest corner of South Zuni and West Dartmouth to Englewood. However, there were not enough people in the block desiring annexation at this time to make it feasible. Mr. Tucker suggested that he might pay the entire cost of attachment to the sewer in liew of annexation since sewer service was his primary concern. The Board informed Mr. Tucker that in the absence of sufficient interest in annexation the matter of his need for sewer connections would be referred to the Utilities Department for their consideration. It was felt some arrangement in his behalf could be made. Mr. Tucker left the meeting. Mr. Rice introduced Mr. Ray Ludwig who in turn introduced Mr. Jack Eachon, both Vice-Presidents of the Citizens Action Committee, who brought up the possibility of transferring the Shopping Center planned for the KLZ site to the area bounded by South Bannock to Santa Fe and Hampden (Highway 70) to Floyd. This area would take in the present City Park, Norgrens and some other business sites. This matter was brought up at the meeting of the Citizens Action Committee meeting held at noon October 9, 1963. Mr. Eachon stated that he, Mr. Ludwig and Mr. John Jameson had wanted to bring a first hand report to the Planning and Zoning Commission rather than to have them get information from the paper only and to give them an opportunity to ask. any questions they might have. There was considerable discussion of the problems and possibilities connected with this change of plans. Members of the Commission who were present at the Citizens Action Committee Meeting said there seemed to be enthusiastic approval at that time. Mr. Miles stated that the change might be good for the community but that the City needs Park area. Mr. Ludwig agreed that the City needs to safeguard the current advantages such as City Park. Mr. Love spoke about the replacement of City Park on a square foot by square foot basis. Several possible sites for future parks were mentioned. Some of these sites are already owned by the City and Mr. Love pointed out that besides the original sale price of the City Park site there could be as much as a half million dollars approximate yearly income from the suggested shopping center. Mr. Ludwig stated that he is very excited at the prospect of several major stores and other smaller stores on this site. The Sales Tax income could be as much as $800 ,000 yearly. This plan would advance the Park Development Program by five years. There is plenty of open property available for park use. He further stated that under this plan it would not be feasible to leave Norgrens as an industrial property and that it would, under this plan, be an ideal site for the City Government Complex. He also brought up the thought that this move would increase the City's tax base by ten per cent. Mr. Jameson mentioned the need for rezoning of the site for a shopping center , but that this rezoning would probably be the same as adjacent commercial property. He also stated that this plan is compatible with the Long Range Master Plans. He remarked that the parks problem would be adequately taken care of with the income from sale of the property and the resultant tax income. The City already owns a site north of Belleview and east of Santa Fe that is larger than the present City Park that can be developed. This move could make such stores as May D & F take a second look before building in proposed adjacent shopping centers. I I I I I I Page 727 Mr. Eachon stated that development of a shopping center on this site would be a logical · transition of events. The value of this property is the fact that it is such a large assemblage of land and that it is adjacent to at least three major traffic routes. The adjacency to heavy traffic builds up shopping centers. It is important also to remember that this site is entirely within the Englewood School District , while most of the KLZ Site is in the Cherry Creek School District. This action would finally result in much more park area than the City now has. Mr. Rice wondered what would happen to the cases now in court if this plan were adopted. Mr. Miles said that in his opinion the best use of the KLZ site is still a shopping center. The Board feels that the practical possibilities should be considered, but that land for parks is not the only problem ; there is also the need for increased park and recreational facilities and City quarters. Mr. Touchton wondered if some of the KLZ land might be acquired as a park site. The opinion seemed to be that it was too expensive to buy for park land . Mr. Touchton moved the matter be further considered later in the meeting. Mr. Love seconded the motion. The motion passed. III. A. Mr.Rice introduced Mr. J. K. Smith, Executive Director of I.C.R.P.C. who spoke at length on the organization and purposes of the I.C.R.P.C. He stated that emphasis would be on the present Master Plan and further study and planning. The basic object in the northwest and southwest area is to develop long range plans for solution of water problems. I.C.R.P .C. does not intend to duplicate actions or responsibilities of any group. They in- tend to take the technical approach to problems rather than the political. All information will be available to any planning commission. Mention was made that Mr. Burt wished a rezoning from open zoning to a Community Business zoning at 5200 South Broadway. At this point the question of annexation of the area West of Broadway , south of Belleview was brought up. It was mentioned that in the past, Littleton has favored Englewood's annexation of this area which is at present zoned for multi-family and commercial use. Engle- wood City Department Heads see no problem in this annexation and consider it feasible. It is felt Englewood should work for annexation of this area. Mr. Carlson suggested the Planning Commission go ahead with the procedure of annexation and asked if the I.C.R.P.C. was available only in case of an overlapping of areas or were they also available in particular cases. Mr. Smith replied that within reason they were available for particular cases and would provide comments and facts. Mr. Rice asked if I.C.R.P.C. intended to study annexation and Mr. Smith replied that he felt it more important to study the reasons for annexation. The sub-division committee will study policies of sub-division policies and regulations. Documentary review will be available to City Commissioners. Mr. Smith invited the Commissioners collectively or individually to visit his office and see how it works. Mr. Smith and Mr. Bachus left at this point. II . CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES. Mrs. Romans mentioned that she believed the minutes of September 19, 1963, were in error on the date of Public Hearing set for December 6 , 1963. She thought the correct date was December 5 , 1963. The Board agreed that the correct date should be December 5 , 1963. Mr. Carlson moved that the minutes of September 19, 1963, be approved with the above correction. Mr. Touchton seconded the motion. The motion passed. III. B. Mr. Ron Wilson did not attend the meeting as scheduled on the agenda. In his absence, it was mentioned that he wishes to buy the old Hawthorne School for office use. It was suggested that under the new Zoning Ordinance the R-4 could possibly be extended to the west from the Broadway-Acoma alley. An office building in this zone classification would be a permitted use. c. Haskell, Helmick, Carpenter and Evans were not in attendance as scheduled on the agenda. E . Plats for the Norval Fout Sub-division were not complete, therefore , were not submitted. The question of rezoning the Burt site at 5200 South Broadway was revived. After discussion, Mr. Love moved the recommendation be approved. Mr. Miles and Mr. Touchton seconded the motion. The motion passed. Page 728 Mrs. Romans informed the Board that Mr. Boggs has indicated that he intends to ask for re- zoning of his property in the 4600 block South Acoma from R-2-B to R-4. He has not yet filed the application. It was brought out that "hardship" as a reason for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance did not mean physical hardship of the applicant fro@ the standpoint of health, but the impossibility, by reas on of physical aspect of the land to conform to the ?Oning requirements. A letter, to the Board o f Adjustment and Appeals, in relation to the above question was read and dis- cussed. Discussion took plase as to how the City Park property would be appraised in view of the suggested shopping center. General discussion regarding the possibility o f a shopping center in this area took place. Mr. Love stated "In view of this evenings' discussion and the reported enthusiastic reception of the Citizens Action Committee o f the suggested shopping center, I move that th~ Commission report its enthusiasm at the implications of the establishment of a major shopping center adjacent to downtown Englewood. Since this location is the one recommended in early studies f or the expansion of Englewood's business area and the practical objections ori ginally existant in this location appear to be sumountable, the Commission welcomes the opportunity to examine the feas ibility of the development." Mr. Miles seconded the motion. The motion was passed .unanimously. - ---- - --. Mr. Love moved that the meeting be adjourned. Mr. Touchton seconded the motion. The motion passed. The meeting was declared adjourned at 11:38 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Esther Woodhead * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION October 24 , 1963 Regular Session I. CALL TO ORDER . The regular session of the Englewood Planning Commission was called to orde r by Chairman Rice at 7:53 p.m. Members present: Hill; Touchton; Rice Romans, Ex-officio Members absent: Carlson; Love; Miles Also present: Planning Aid Monson Members of Action Committee present: Close; Graham ; Abbott; Eachon; Draper. Ex-officio members present: Scarffe, Montgomery Others present: John Jameson I• II. ACTION COMMITTEE. A. Mr. Rice stated the Action Committee had been invited to meet with the Planning Commission to discuss their progress on the downtown re-development program. Mr. Rice asked Mr. Graham, the Action Committee Chairman, to open the discussion. Mr. Graham stated that Mr. Small was favorably impressed with the proposed move of Cinderella City Shopping Center to the area between Bannock and Santa Fe, Floyd and Hampden from the KLZ Site. Mr. Graham felt the Committee was in fa vor of the move also, and pointed out the benefits to be realized; i.e., tax benefit to the School District, and the additional commercial development near the downtown area. Mr. Graham felt that several corrective measures have been made on recommendation from the Action Committee, and cited the continued right turn at Highway 70 and South Bannock ; the change at South Lincoln and Highway 70 and the paving of South Lincoln in that area. Mr. Graham noted that the proposed change in location of the Shopping Center rather stymied further changes in the traffic pattern until a final decision was reached on the Shopping Center. Mr. Love entered and was seated with the Commission. I I I