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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-09-03 PZC MINUTES' • • • Planning and Zoning Commi ssion Study Session Medical Di strict Small Area Plan Se pt ember 3, 2008 Page 1 of6 CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION September 3, 2008 I. CALL TO ORDER [f] The regu la r meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was cal l ed to order at 7:05 p.m. in the Community Developm ent Conference Room of the Englewood Civ i c Center, Chair Bleile presiding. Present: Bleile, Roth, King, Calonder, Knoth, Fish, Brick Absent: We l ker, Krieger Staff: John Voboril, Planner II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Augu st 1 9, 2008 Knoth moved: Fish seconded: TO APPROV E THE AUGUST 19, 2008 M l UTES Chair Ble il e asked if there were any modifications or corrections. There were none. AYES: NAYS: ABSTAIN: ABSENT: Bleile, Roth , Calonder, Kno th, Fish, Kin g, Br i ck None None Welker, Krieger Motion carried. APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT ~ Case #2008-0 8, R-1 Subdi v i sion Exception to Titl e 16 Knoth moved: Kin g seconded: TO APPROV E THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR CASE #2008-08 Chair Blei l e noted on page 3 under th e vote Ms . Krieger was l isted und er the ayes and also as absent. Her name should be removed from the ayes. Mr. Roth noted on page 2, No. 8 the lot widths were omitted. • • • Planning and Zonin g Commis sio n Study Session Medical District Small Area Plan September 3 , 2008 Pag e 2 of 6 AYES: NAYS: ABSTAIN: ABSENT: Bleile, Roth , Calonder, Knoth, Fish, Ki ng, Bri ck None None Welker, Krieger Motion carried . Ill . MEDICAL DI STRICT SMA LL AREA PLA N t?ll Mr. Bleile stated he is on call tonight and may need to be excused. At this time, Mr. Voboril began his PowerPoint presentation . Mr. Vobor il said this is the final meeting for the Medical District Small Area Plan discussion. He stated the fo ll owing topics have been completed: • Land Uses • Minimum Lineal Street Frontage • Zone of Transparency • Density and Minimum Lot Size • Loading • Transition Overlay Zones The Commission agreed. He pointed out an area on the map that in one of the earlier meetings was shown as an MU-M-2 zone district, which would allo w retail. As th e discussion went along in the earlier meeting some Commissioners were not comfortable with retai l on the south si de of H i ghway 285 . Mr. Voboril revised the boundaries so that the southeast corner of Highway 285 and Logan Street would allow retail as well as the southwest corner of Clarkson and Highway 285. He asked the Commission what the y thought of the new boundary lines. They felt the changes were good. He noted he also added an area to the district on the west side of Sub-area 2, which would be similar to MU- M-1, which does not allow retail. Topics the Commission hopes to resolve tonight are : • Sub-area 5 • Implementation Strategies • Height and Setbacks • Height Zones . • • Planning and Zoning Commi ss ion Study Se ss ion Medical Di strict Small Area Plan Septembe r 3 , 2008 Page 3 of 6 Items being put on hold are: • Non-conforming Residential Structures • Landscaping • Parking SUB-AREA 5 One of the key questions that arose was should commercial retail uses be allo wed al o ng Highway 285 , or should commercial retail be restricted to the Old Hampden corridor? The retail area along the south side of Hampden Avenue is for the most part 10 0 feet de ep. He asked how the Commission felt about ha ving retail us es along the highway. Mr. Caloncler said he feels retail in that area is a good idea. Mr. King said if you're building for density purposes you could get some nice views out of that area. Mr. Bleile said he d oes n't want redevelopment in that area to take away from the downtown Englewood focus . He would like to see mi xed-use and higher density in the area, but was not for making the entire area commercial. Mr. Brick said if the area was vacant ground he would like to see the west encl developed into a high level gated community and on th e east side denser housing. The gated community would maybe appeal to doctors at Swedish. This would provide high encl living in the City; professionals would not need to move to the suburbs. Mr. Calonder asked if that was feasible. Mr. Brick said it is a pipe dream since the ground is not vacant. Mr. Bleile said since it is not a blank piece of land what would you like to see. Mr. Voboril said most likely because it is developed, the scenario of change would be a very gradual one project at a time infill . The homes in the area will have t o co -exist w ith the ne w projects . Mr. Fish said he would not like to see commercial along th e 285 corridor. He would like to see better housing in that area and commercial along the Old Hampd en corridor. Mr. Bleile said if you are looking at the whole area to be a mixed use commercial area you w ill need a population that can visit the commercial areas quickl y, easil y, on the way to or from home, etc. Mr. Fish said he liked hi gh er density, but is not fond of retai l or commercial going into that area. There is alread y commercial and retail to the north that w ill service that area. Mr. Bleile said if you are going to do high density in today's da y and age you will always do mixed use ; single floor business with living quarters on top. Mr. Knoth said for retail purposes, Hi ghwa y 285 is the heavil y tra ve led road. There is a reason why the retail along Old Hampden is mom and pop businesses; ther e is not enough traffic to get national, high quality tenants in that area. High way 285 has the tr affic and vis ibility that wi ll attract national retailers. Mr. Roth said the highest visibility is along the curve before you get to Downing. He suggested designating the area east of the alley between Corona and Downing Streets as commercial. The rest could be redeveloped as • the market dictates. • • • Planning and Zoning Commi ssion Study Sess ion Medical Di stric t Small Area Pl an September 3, 2008 P age 4 of6 Mr. Calonder said th e r e is huge need for mi xe d use commercial for just th e hospital ; p eop le who want to live close to work and might not be able to afford th e hom es south of Hampden, the shopping, a diner, etc. He fee ls the area is prim ed for a co mm ercia l development. Mr. Voboril said if the answer is no to co mm erc ial retail along th e hi ghway, then how deep should commercial retail extend away from th e Old Hampd en cor ri dor? H e provided several scenarios. Mr. Bleile said if we are looking at this area as a blank slate, in th e future are people w ho are raising families and spending money to move to Englewood going to m ove to th at area; the answer is no . What do you have to do in this da y and age to get work ing adu lts th at wo uld be sustainable enough to support th e co mm ercial and res identi al ? Working adu lts today want to be spoil ed. After discussion, Mr. Voboril said th e MU-M-2 zoning wo uld be extended all th e way t o the east. Consensus was th e a rea should be mi xe d u se, high e r density residential w ith small scal e retail allowed . Mr. Voboril suggested several stakeholder meetin gs be held this fall , one to present what is being proposed and one that reflects any changes the Stakehold e rs mi gh t have . A final meeting will be for just the stakeholders in the t wo portions of Sub -a reas 2 and 5 th at the Planning and Zoning Commission feels it makes sense t o include, t o discuss whether or not th e Stakeholders wo uld be w illing to consent to come into t he districts . Mr. Fish exited the meetin g at this time . Mr. Brick and Mr. Bleile agreed with Mr. Voboril 's suggestion of holdin g a separa t e m ee tin g where the stakeholders in the additional areas will have an opportunity to vo ice their feelings after attending the first meetin g. Mr. Voboril asked the Commission if th e stakeholders wanted to change what is proposed slightl y, wo ul d that be accep t ab le to th e Commission. Mr. Bleil e stated th e area n eeds to be mi xed-u se. Mr. Brick said they wou ld have the opportunity to voice th eir concerns at the public hearing. Mr. Voboril said t hat was correct, but wou ld like to have them on board before th e public hearing. Mr. King said what if you take the properties east of Dow ning and that becomes th e high dens ity, mixed- use area and develop the ar ea to th e west at a later date. Mr. Roth suggested all th e options that the Planning and Zoning Commission discussed be presented to the stakeholders to see w hat the y like. Everyone liked that idea . Height and Setbacks Mr. Voboril stated w hen th e Commission discussed height and setbacks previous ly there was a concern that the 0 to 10 foot front setback is fine for most buildings, but allowing taller buildings so close to the property line ma y create an uncomfortabl e canyon effect. • • • Plannin g and Zoning C ommiss ion Study Session Medical Di strict Small Area Pl an Septemb er 3, 200 8 Page 5 of 6 He stated a possible solution would be to adopt upper story setbacks established in Denver's Main Street Zoning plan. He provided several slides to show how it might look. After the first 65 feet the building would be set back 20 feet and then continue up to 145 feet, which is the maximum for the area . Mr. Roth thought the 65 feet ma y b e too tall. Mr. Voboril asked if the height at the property line should be lower. After discussion it w as determined to lower the height to 60 feet. Se v eral Commissioners stated they wer e o .k. with either the buildings being straight up or with the setbacks. HEIGHT ZONES Mr. Voboril revisited the proposed height zones Staff proposed and the Commis sion previously discussed and a revised slide of what the Commission proposed. Mr. Knoth requested Sub-area S be discussed further. Mr. Voboril said that area should probabl y be kept at 60 to 65 feet. He asked the Commission if they liked that idea or wanted to see something different in that area . Mr. Bleile said if that area is mixed-use the best use of Old Hampden would be for high residential towers with tall penthouses like Kent Place . The y would have outstanding views. After discussion it was determined to allow a maximum height of 1 OS feet in that area . LANDSCAPING Mr. Voboril stated Staff has not had time to address overall landscaping on a City -w id e basis , but an area percentage number needs to be determined for this area . Staff is recommending for now either the MU-B-1 or MU-B-2 landscaping area percentage be used . MU-B-1 is 10% and MU-B-2 is 15 %. Discussion ensued. Consensus was 3 votes for 15 % and 2 votes for 10%, one Commissioner abstained . Fifteen percent is the number that w ill be used . PARKING Mr. Voboril reviewed the Denver Main Street Zoning parking requirements . Mr. Voboril stated there was no Staff consensus for Medical District Zoning Parkin g Requirements other than moving to one standard that all retail and office used (1 :300 ), although some Staff members felt that number was not flexible enough . Mr. Knoth asked about the width of spaces. Mr. Voboril stated consensus was to keep the nine foot wide stalls. The issue that still needs to be resolved is the number of parking spaces per lot size . Mr. Calonder asked why the Commission is even discussing this issue since a parking consultant has been hired b y the City. Mr. Voboril said Mr. Welker requested different scenarios be presented as to how you would develop lots with parking. Slides of various lot development scenarios were reviewed and proposed parking ratios were discussed. Mr. Voboril said he likes the system of when you have smaller lots y ou make the ratio more flexible and as the lots get bigger you increase the ratio . • • • Planning and Zoning Commission Study Session Medical District Small Area Pl an September 3 , 2008 P age 6 of6 It was determined to d iscuss this issue further after the parking study is complete . The Commiss ioners thanked Mr. Vobo ril for a phenomenal job. Mr. Brick asked when the stakeholder meetings would be held . Mr. Voboril said the first meetings will be held the 12th and 13 th of November and the second set of meetings th e first week of December. He said Staff is hoping to bring a consultant on board to help develop some visuals that show the proposed ideas. Staff will take the feedback from the first meetings, make any necessary adjustments and then show the adjustments at th e second meet ing. Mr. Brick asked when it would be brought back to the Commission for a public h earin g. Mr. Voboril said hopefully within the first half of 2009. IV. PUBLIC FOR UM ~ There was no one present to address the Commission . V . DIRECTOR 'S CHOICE ~ Mr. White was not present. VI. STAFF 'S CHOICE Q Mr. Voboril has nothing further for the Commission . VII . ATTORNEY 'S CHOICE ~ Ms . Reid was not present. VIII. COMMISSIO N ER 'S CHOICE l?lJ Mr. King invited the Commission to an Open House at 3067 South Pearl Street on September 11th from 4 :30 to 6:30 . His company has just completed the 2,610 square foot home. Mr. Br ick informed the Commission he would be unable to attend the October 7th meeting. The meeting adjourned at 8:30 p .m .