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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
October 20, 2009
I. CALL TO ORDER
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The regular meeting of the City Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at
7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Englewood Civic Center, Chair Bleile presiding.
Present:
Absent:
Staff:
Bleile, Roth , King, Welker, Krieger, Knoth, Fish , Calonder
Brick, Kinton (alternate)
Alan White, Community Development Director
Audra Kirk, Planner I
Nancy Reid, Assistant City Attorney
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 6, 2009
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Knoth moved:
Krieger seconded: TO APPROVE THE OCTOBER 6, 2009 MINUTES
Chair Bleile asked if there were any modifications or corrections .
Mr. Welker noted on page 2, first paragraph , last sentence the word "in " be added before
the word residential.
Mr. Knoth and Ms. Krieger accepted Mr. Welker's friendly amendment.
AYES :
NAYS :
Bleile, Roth , Welker, Krieger, Knoth, Fish , King, Calonder
None
ABSTAIN : None
ABSENT: Brick
Motion carried.
Ill. PUBLIC HEARING
Case #2009-04, Amendments to Title 16 Related to Medical Marijuana
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Roth moved:
Krieger seconded : TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE #2009-04
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AYES:
NAYS :
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Bleile, Roth , Welker, Krieger, Knoth, Fish, King, Calonder
None
None
Brick
Motion carried.
~: Ms. Kirk, Planner, was sworn in. She stated the case before the Commission is Case
#2009-04, proposed changes to Title 16 Related to Medical Marijuana. Already submitted
for the record are the Staff Report and proof of publication that the hearing was published
in the Englewood Herald on October 2, 2009 and on the City of Englewood website from
September 23, 2009 to October 20, 2009.
In 2000 Colorado voters passed a constitutional amendment allowing the use of medical
marijuana. On August 17, 2009 Englewood City Council approved Ordinance No. 34, an
emergency ordinance establishing a temporary suspension or moratorium on Medical
Marijuana Primary Care-givers until licensing and zoning regulations could be put into
place. On October 5, 2009 City Council approved through a second reading Ordinance
No. 41. This Ordinance amends Title 5 of the Englewood Municipal Code to include
licensing for Medical Marijuana Primary Care-givers .
On September 9, 2009 Englewood Planning and Zoning Commission began discussion on
Medical Marijuana and how to regulate it within Title 16 of the Englewood Municipal Code
-the Unified Development Code. Th~ discussion carried over to the October 6, 2009
Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. During these discussions the Commission
discussed appropriate zone districts, required permits and conditions that would be suitable
for Medical Marijuana Primary Care-givers.
Also discussed at the Planning and Zoning Commission meetings were Use Classification,
Definitions, Zone Districts, Approval Procedures, Use Specific Standards and distancing.
The Commission recommended the use be added as a Commercial Use in Table 16 ~5-1.1
Table of Allowed Uses. The Commission determined to use the same definition as the State
Constitution relating to Medical Marijuana, Medical Marijuana Use, and Medical Marijuana
Primary Care-giver . The Commission determined that Medical Marijuana Primary Care-giver
is not an appropriate use in the R-1-A, R-1-B , R-1-C, R-2-A, R-2-B, MU-R-3-A, MU-R-3-B and
M0-1 zone districts . These districts are primarily residential districts . The Commission also
determined that the use would be prohibited as a home occupation. It was also determined
that the industrial districts were not an appropriate district due to the lack of high traffic
found in commercial districts that would make the area more visible to the public. It was
determined that a Medical Marijuana Primary Care-giver would be an appropriate use in
the M-1, M-2 and M0-2 medical districts with a conditional use permit and as a permitted
use in the MU-B-1 and MU-B-2 zone districts with distancing requirements .
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After discussion the Commission recommendation was:
Prohibit Medical Marijuana Primary Care-givers in the R-1-A, R-1-B, R-1-C, R-2-A, R-2-
B, MU-R-3-A, MU-R-3-B and M0-1 zone districts. Allow the use in M-1, M-2 and M0-
2 (mixed use medical) as a Conditional Use with distancing requirements and 1n
MU-B-1 and MU-B-2 (business) as a permitted use with distancing requirements.
The Unified Development Code identifies three types of "allowed " uses that are
differentiated by the type of review performed by the City. A "Permitted Use" is allowed as
a use-by-right provided all Code requirements are met. A "Conditional Use" requires a
Conditional Use Permit with review by the Development Review T earn and approval by the
Planning and Zoning Commission. Commission approval requires a public hearing which
includes public notice by posting of the property and publication in the designated official
newspaper and /or the City's website. The Commission reviews the permit application for
compliance with criteria and may impose additional requirements of approval specific to
the application. The Conditional Use Permit is the one review process that offers the
opportunity for community input in a public review. The Conditional Use Permit also
requires an annual review for compliance with any requirements for approval. The third
type of use is a "Limited Use". The limited use does require additional review, however can
be done administratively .
Use-specific standards are zoning compliance requirements that form the basis of review
criteria and recommendations for a particular use.
Commission recommendation:
Add Section 16-5-2.C.13 to Chapter 16 that establishes use specific standards for
Medical Marijuana Primary Care-giver as follows:
1. The use shall apply for and receive a Conditional Use Permit in the M-1, M-2 and
M0-2 zone districts.
2. The use shall not be located within 500 feet of a licensed child care facility.
3. The use shall not be located within 500 feet of any educational institution either
private or public.
4. The use shall not be located within 500 feet of any church or religious institution.
5. The use shall not be located within 2,500 feet of another like use if in the MU-B-1
or MU-B-2 zone districts.
6. The use shall have a City Sales Tax license.
7. The use shall comply with all applicable City Codes. (Allows for review for
compliance with all applicable City Codes)
Ms. Kirk referenced the distancing map that was distributed at the start of the meeting. The
map shows the locations of the existing Medical Marijuana Primary Care-givers. She noted
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each large blue circle has a diameter of 5,000 feet; 2,500 feet of each side, which is the
required distance in the MU-B-1 and MU-B-2 zone districts.
Ms. Kirk noted portions of the 2,500 foot buffer extend into the M-1 and M-2 zone districts .
The Commission must determine if the distancing buffer from the MU-B-1 and MU-B-2 zone
districts end at the zone district or extend into the M-1 and M-2 zone districts .
That concluded Ms. Kirk's presentation and she offered to answer any questions the
Commission might have.
Mr. Welker asked if there is a Medical Marijuana Primary Care-giver just across
Englewood 's borders, does that facility preclude a new one inside Englewood's City limits
within the 2,500 feet.
Ms. Kirk said Staff would only regulate what is inside Englewood 's boundaries . Staff would
have no way of kn .owing what is happening outside Englewood 's borders. Director White
noted the Commission could make that a recommendation and part of the applicant's
application would be to address where other like businesses in the area are located .
Chair Bleile asked if there were any other questions for Ms. Kirk . There were none .
Chair Bleile noted for the record that no one in the audience wished to address the
Commission.
Welker moved:
Calonder seconded: TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE #2009-04
AYES:
NAYS:
Bleile, Roth, Welker, Krieger, Knoth, Fish , King, Calonder
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Brick
Motion carried .
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Krieger moved:
Fish seconded: CASE #2009-04 AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 16 UNIFIED
DEVELOPMENT CODE RELATED TO
PRIMARY CARE-GIVER AMENDMENTS
APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL
RECOMMENDATION FOR ADOPTION .
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
BE RECOMMENDED FOR
WITH A FAVORABLE
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Discussion ensued regarding distancing requirements. Mr. Welker noted he did not believe
distancing requirements have ever applied to businesses outside Englewood's boundaries,
but felt if there was a school on Denver or Littleton's boundary it should be considered. Mr.
Fish asked if that type of distancing applies to any other businesses in the City. Ms. Kirk said
it did not. Mr. Fish said of the entities that the City does have distancing requirements for
does the City apply that kind of a rule to them. Ms. Kirk said no. Discussion ensued. Mr.
Welker asked Assistant City Attorney Reid if there would be issues if the City regulates
based upon a like business in another jurisdiction, but within Englewood's distancing
requirements. Ms. Reid said that has never been done and she would have to do some
research and present her findings to City Council. Mr. Fish said if the City does goes down
that path, the issue of who provides the information needs to be determined . He stated he
is hesitant to go that way because of legal issues; we are not sure how to do it and it has a
variety of complex issues surrounding it.
Mr. King said these are complex legal issues; the State's Attorney General doesn 't even
know how to regulate Medical Marijuana. He stated he doesn't necessarily have a problem
with Medical Marijuana in general, but he does have a problem with the conflicts between
the Federal and State laws and that are no defined regulations from the State Attorney
General, leaving it all up to the cities and towns on how to deal with this issue. Ms. Krieger
stated the Commission is not dealing with the same issues at the State's Attorney General.
The Commission is dealing only with zoning issues; where do we want to allow something
that the State has said is legal. Discussion ensued. Mr. King stated the Commission could
always relax the regulations at a later date. He felt the regulations need to be tighter rather
than looser to begin with .
Ms. Krieger said she 's probably in the minority, but after looking at the distancing map she
feels that the 2,500 foot distancing requirement is too great. Mr. Fish agreed. He said there
are some members of the Commission who have clearly stated that they want none of
these facilities or uses inside the City, but to set up rule structures that say you can have it,
but not really, is a poor way of going. If the Commission does not want them at all, then
let's write the rules clear and simple. Let's not write distancing so it precludes them being in
the City.
Ms. Krieger said she would feel more comfortable if the distancing requirement was
reduced to 1,250 feet.
Mr. Welker said there are three issues to resolve tonight and the Commission may have to
make motions on them independently.
Mr. Roth said looking at the distancing map there is room for approximately 7 or so
facilities outside of the medical district. One of his concerns is that in several of the
allowable areas it is doubtful a facility would locate there, such as in Cornerstone Park. The
Commission did not suggest a distancing requirement for parks . Ms. Krieger said there are
many neighborhood parks that blanket the City.
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Mr. Fish suggested the Commission work on one issue at a time .
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Fish moved:
Welker seconded:
Discussion ensued.
THE 2,500 FOOT DISTANCING REQUIREMENT BETWEEN LIKE
BUSINESSES IN THE MU-B-1 AND MU-B-2 ZONE DISTRICTS NOT
AFFECT PLACEMENT OF LIKE BUSINESSES IN THE M-1, M-2 AND
M0-2 ZONE DISTRICTS.
AYES :
NAYS:
Bleile, Roth, Welker, Krieger, Knoth, Fish, King, Calonder
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Brick
Motion carried.
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Welker moved:
Krieger seconded: REDUCE THE 2,500 FOOT DISTANCING REQUIREMENT FROM LIKE
BUSINESSES TO 1,250 FEET.
Mr. Roth felt reducing the distancing requirement to 1,250 feet would allow for too many
facilities for the Englewood population service area of 60,000 people. Mr. Fish stated he f elt
that was reasonable . Mr. Knoth said he felt the Commission was being anti-business placing
any restrictions on something that is legal by the State Statutes. Mr. Roth quoted from an
article in Westward that said Denver is the wild wild west of the medical marijuana
business. We have precedence of being anti-business when those businesses do not reflect
the values of the citizens. Ms. Krieger said she did not know how helping sick people is not
reflecting the values of the citizens. Mr. Roth said one of the existing Englewood busines?es
is advertising in Westward as a medical lounge. Ms. Krieger said she understands the
abuses of medical marijuana. Mr. Roth said the use is ripe for abuse; we need to place
controls on it and it is harder to tighten controls rather than loosen them . Ms. Krieger
agreed. Mr. King asked how the City is hurting the people by not allowing 20, 30, 80 or
100 facilities. He said he believes the three existing facilities could service the whole
population base. Mr. Fish asked what he was basing that on. Ms. Krieger said from a
business standpoint the City doesn't tell clothing stores we don't want you . When the City
put restrictions on the car dealers several years ago we lost several of the good dealers and
they were very angry with us. Ms. Krieger said she believes Medical Marijuana needs to b e
kept under control, but doesn 't think limiting it to whoever got here first is the way to go .
Mr. Knoth said he believes the free market will dictate how many will open . Mr. King said
again his concerns aren 't with Medical Marijuana, it's with the image issue and until there
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are clearly defined legal guidelines, what happens when this all blows up and we have to
deal with the mess? It may or may not, but the State Attorney General doesn't even know
how to handle it. Discussion ensued. Mr. Welker said he would rather have large shops that
are visible rather than many small ones. Mr. Fish said he believes the City's rules will have
an impact on how many can open.
Chair Bleile called for a vote.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Motion failed.
Krieger, Knoth
Fish, Bleile, Roth, Welker, King, Calonder
None
Brick
Welker moved:
Calonder seconded : ALL DISTANCING REQUIREMENTS IN ALL ZONE DISTRICTS SHALL
APPLY TO FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD AND/OR
ACROSS THE CITY OF ENGLEWOOD 'S BOUNDARIES.
Ms . Krieger said historically the City has not taken into consideration what happens outside
of the City's borders. She did not believe it is a good idea. Mr. Knoth said that motion could
knock out every area in the medical district. Ms. Krieger agreed . Mr. Welker said not
necessarily so because in that area the use would be a Conditional Use with no distancing
requirements. Ms. Krieger said by potentially eliminating the rest of the areas all we are
doing is forcing any applicant who wants to apply for the use in the medical district to see
how many they can fit in there and that we will let them. Mr. Welker said he would just like
to consider the motion. Chair Bleile said he feels it is a good sense of community.
Chair Bleile called for a vote.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Roth, Welker, King, Calonder, Bleile
Fish, Krieger, Knoth
None
Brick
Motion carried .
Mr. Fish asked what the purpose was of having Conditional and Permitted uses in the two
areas. Mr. Welker said so that they might have closer spacing in some areas . Ms. Krieger
said she voted for a Conditional Use in the medical area because there is a lot of residential
there. The Conditional Use also allows for public input. Mr. Roth felt the distancing
requirements helps simplify the process .
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Mr. Roth asked Director White if he felt not having a distancing requirement from a park
would be an issue, especially near Belleview Park. Director White said he did not.
Chair Bleile stated for the record he was disappointed that there wasn't more public in
attendance. He said he thought this particular issue, from a community perspective, would
bring some passionate people forward to comment either way, especially considering the
records of prior City Council meetings and the comments that were raised. He said he
understands business requirements, as somebody who has had a small business in the past
and is all for small businesses. He doesn 't feel restrictions should be placed on businesses
all the way from the Federal government down to local communities, but at the same time
we do establish Planning and Zoning committees to make sure or to have a voice as to
what we want to see and what kind of value our community has. He does not want a sign
with a marijuana plant on it at each end of Broadway saying "come to Englewood, we sell
pot". He noted some time ago the City Council went after an established business in
Englewood with a sign of someone smoking pot. We were against a sign with somebody
smoking pot, but we're for the act of smoking pot. Mr. Fish noted smoking is not the issue ;
the City currently has a smoking ordinance in place. Chair Bleile doesn 't care if people want
to participate in the use of medical marijuana in the privacy of their own home, but this
issue does not fit into what his vision of Englewood would be from a roadmap perspective .
Ms. Krieger said the guidelines the Commission is proposing has severely limited people
from coming to Englewood for medical marijuana. From her perspective she doesn't know
what the difference is between medical marijuana and all the liquor stores we have .
Mr. Welker said by recommending the City do allow Medical Marijuana Care-givers in
certain places he doesn't believe we're saying that we don't want business. We've
acknowledged it, but we are also saying we have a community standard and we want some
limits .
Mr. Knoth said medical marijuana is something that is recommended b y a Doctor and there
are hundreds of facilities around the metro area. He said he feels Englewood is losing sales
tax. Chair Bleile asked if it is o.k. to sell your morals out for a dollar. Ms. Krieger said she
doesn't know how this is selling your morals out. It's the difference between seeing it as
medicinal marijuana and seeing it as teenage kids trying to get high. Some Commissioner's
questioned the fact the City is losing sales tax dollars.
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The original motion shall be amended to include:
7. Th e 2,500 Foot Distancing requirement betwee n like businesses
in the MU-8-7 and MU-8-2 Zone Districts not affect placement of
lik e business es in the M-7 , M-2 and M0-2 Zone Districts .
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2. All distancing requirements in all Zone Districts shall apply to
facilities within the City of Englewood and/or across the City of
Englewood 's boundaries.
Mr. Fish voted no because there are too many flaws in the process and it hasn 't been
thought out well enough, not that we haven 't given our best. There are too many
implications of things going wrong.
Ms . Krieger voted no because it's too restrictive.
Mr. Roth voted yes because based on what he has read in the Comp Plan , Section 7, this
does allow for more than the three facilities we currently have. Goal 1 of Section 7 states
"To provide an economic reliable environment that builds and maintains a diverse base of
businesses". We are allowing a new type of business. It also maintains the diverse base
because it limits where they can go and also the number. This is probably the most effective
approach the Commission could come up with.
Mr. Knoth voted no because he believes that the City is cutting itself off of sales tax.
Mr. King voted yes even though he feels it is not restrictive enough. He said he's not trying
to be anti-business ; he is a business owner himself, but is concerned over the le gal issues .
He would rather see some other community work out the issues .
Chair Bleile voted no because the use should be restricted to the medical district only.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN :
ABSENT :
Motion failed.
Roth, Welke r, King, Calonder
Fish , Krieger, Knoth, Bleile
None
Brick
IV. DR COG -2009 DENVER REGIONAL NATURAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN
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Discussion was tabled.
V. PUBLIC FORUM
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Mr. Randy Miller addressed the Commission . He stated he is a lifetime resident of
Englewood. He said he and a friend have done a· lot of research in regards to opening a
dispensary in Englewood. He said he has a printout from the Department of Public Health
that clarifies a lot of the facts . It says over 800 physicians have signed for patients in
Colorado . He sai 'd he is very pro-business and wants to do everything by the book. He said
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it sounded like to him that the Commission is trying to make it as hard as possible for
people like us to open a business.
VI. DIRECTOR 'S CHOICE
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Director White provided an update on future meetings:
November 3 -Study Session, murals and sign code amendments
November 17 -Study Session, murals and sign code amendments
December 8 -Review of 2009 p riorities
December 22 -Meeting cance led
VII. STAFF 'S CHOICE
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Ms. Kirk had nothing further to report.
VIII . ATTORNEY 'S CHOICE
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Ms. Reid had nothing further to report.
IX. COMMISSION ER'S CHOICE
~ The Commissioners had nothing further to report.
The meeting adjourned at 8:25 p .m.