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Case #USE2009-01 l , Community Gar den
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CITY OF ENGLEWOOD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
June 16, 2009
I. CALL TO ORDER
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The regular meeting of the City Pl anning and Zoning Commission was ca ll ed to order at
7:02 p .m. in the Council Chambers of the Englewood Ci vic Center, Chair Bleile presidin g.
Present:
Absent:
Staff:
Bleile, Roth , King, Welker, Krieger, Knoth, Fish , Brick
Ki nton (a lternate )
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Audra Kirk, Planner
A lan White, Community Development Director
11. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Jun e 2, 2009
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Knoth moved:
Roth seconded : TO APPROVE THE JUNE 2, 2009 MINUTES
Chair Bleile asked if there were any modification s or corrections.
Mr. Fish asked that on pag e 3, last sentence of paragraph 7 the word consensus be
changed to majority vote. Mr. Knoth and Mr. Roth accepted the Friendl y Amendment.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN :
ABSENT:
Bleile, Roth , Welker, Krieger, Knoth, Fish , King, Brick
None
None
Calonder
Motion carried .
111. PUBLIC HEARING: CASE #2009-011, COMMUNITY GARDEN
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Knoth moved:
Krieger seconded : THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE #USE2009-011 BE OPENED
AYES:
NAYS:
ABS TAIN:
ABSENT:
Bleile, Roth , Welker, Kr ieger, Knoth, Fish , King, Brick
None
None
Calonder
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Motion carried.
Ms. Audra Kirk, Planner, was sworn in. ~,Ms. Kirk stated the case before the Commission
tonight is CASE #USE2009-011 . This application was submitted by the Englewood Parks
and Recreation Department for a Conditional Use to allow a community garden in the R-2-
B Zone District. For the record the notice of public hearing was published in the Englewood
Herald on May 29, 2009 and also was on the City's website from May 19111 through June
15, 2009. The applicant has provided a certification that the property was continuously
posted from June 5, 2009. Also included for the record is a copy of the staff report.
The subject property is on the site of the Englewood depot located on West Dartmouth
between South Fox and South Galapago Streets. The subject property is composed of three
separate lots, but does function as one single lot. There are 145 feet of frontage on South
Dartmouth, 11 7.5 feet on South Fox Street and 161 feet of frontage on South Galapago
Street. The proposed community garden will be contained to the northeast portion of the
site fronting on South Fox Street.
The plan does provide for screening around the perimeter of the garden with a four foot
solid fence, shrub hedges and fruit trees . The area at the northwest portion of the site that
will be used for parking will be screened with a four foot fence that is already in place .
Landscaped areas have been designed to City standards and the plan meets all Englewood
Municipal Codes .
The Planning and Zoning Commission review must determine if the request is consistent
with the Comprehensive Plan and meets the five criteria found in 16-2-12 of the Unified
Development Code: Conditional Use Permits.
This plan does support the goals of Roadmap Englewood: 2003 Englewood Comprehensiv e
Plan. Th e proposed use will create a variety of park classifications.
The five criteria that must be met are:
1. The use must be permitted as a Conditional Use in the zone district in which it is
proposed to be located.
Table 7 6-5-1. 7: Table of Allowed Uses, a community garden is permitted within
the R-2-8 zone district.
2. The Conditional Use will not create significant adverse impacts on existing or
future development.
The proposed project will not create any adverse impacts on existing or future
developments .
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3. The number of off-street parking spaces shall not be less than th e requi rements
of Section 16-6-4 EMC.
Th ere are no specifi c requir em ents for th e numb er of spaces that a community
garden must provide. How ever, there are twelv e parking spaces available on
the site adjacent to the depot.
4. Meets all other applicable provisions of the Englewood Municipal Code.
This project went throu gh Development Review Team and was reviewed and
approved by all City departments.
5. If the application is for a Conditional Use tel ecommunications tower or antenna,
it shall also conform to any additional standards and requir eme nts for such use s
specified in Chapter 16-7 EMC, "Telecommunications."
Not applicable, telecommunication use is not part of this application.
Staff recommends approval of the request for Conditional Use to allow a community
garden in the R-2-B Zone District.
Ms . Kirk offered to answer any questions th e Commission might ha ve.
Mr. King said he assumes the project is funded, but who will be responsible for the
maintenance of the project.
Ms . Kirk said funding will come from fundraising to pa y for the actual co nstruction cf the
garden and after that the City is responsibl e for maintaining it. The lots wii l be leas ed and
those individuals will be required to maintain them. The Parks Department will be
responsible for picking up trash on a weekly basis. She noted Mr. Lee, who will be speakin g
lat e r, would also be able to answer questions.
Mr. Fish said the parking lot is dirt. Will that be improved and will it come from the
fundraising efforts? Ms. Kirk stated th e Community Development Department is not
requiring that the parking lot be paved as there is not a change in intensity or use .
Technically, the site is being used as a park and is being maintained by the Parks and
Recreation Department.
Mr. Welker said it was his understanding the parking that is there now was designated for
the Depot building. Ms. Kirk said that is true, but the Depot is currently not being used . Mr.
Welker wanted to know what would happen if the Depot should be us ed as a building at
sometime in the future; is there land enough for both uses. Ms. Kirk stated Staff has not
researched that. To bring the Depot back to use would require huge funding since it is in
such disrepair.
That concluded Ms. Kirk's testimony .
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liMJ Dave Lee, Manager of Open Space for Parks and Recreation was sworn in. He stated
Parks and Recreation is the applicant for the community garden because the City owns the
property at 601 West Dartmouth. The Parks and Recreation Department became involved
with the project through the Englewood Cultural Arts Commission. Denver Urban Gard ens
is also involved as they are the local expert on establishing and initiating community
gardens. They do it not only in the City and County of Denver, but m etro-wide. Th ey
currently have 90 gardens established throughout the metro area. Parks and Recreation's
role is to continue with the garden and provide any support that we can to the steering
committee and the citizens. He offered to answer any questions the Commission might
have.
Mr. Brick asked what happens if a year or two down the road enthusiasm fades, what is the
contingency plan when the gardens turn to weeds.
Mr. Lee said he didn't believe they are going to turn to weeds because of Denver Urban
Gardens' success rate with establishing, continuing and maintaining gardens. He also said
he believes the economic climate now is right. You see a lot of newspaper ads regarding
starting gardens. Part of Parks ' plan for this garden is to donate produce to local food banks
and local charitable organizations. Denver Urban Gardens will also provide funding for the
garden through the SCFD. Denver Urban Gardens are capable and will assist Parks with
writing grants and fundraising. The Parks Department plans on providing seed money for
the gardens through either Open Spac e or the Conservation Trust Fund .
Mr. Fish asked about the leasing of the lo ts. Mr. Lee s2.ir:i t hey w ill lease for between $25
and $50, which will go towards paying for the water, compost or anything· that is for th e
entire community garden itself.
Mr. Brick asked who is eligible for a plot. Mr. Lee said anyone who wishes to apply for one,
but we would like to give first consideration to city residents . He said they anticipate a
waiting list for th e Englewood garden as there are waiting li sts for all the community
gardens that Denver Urban Gardens oversees.
Mr. King said the hours of operation are from 6 a.m. to dusk. What happens after dusk? Mr.
Lee said if someone wanted to stay after dusk they could as the City's parks are open till 11
p.m., but most people will prefer to garden while there is adequate light. Mr. King asked if
there were any liability issues . Mr. Lee said no more than in any other park area .
Chair Bleile asked if signs would be installed referencing the garden . Mr. Lee said yes , at
some point. The garden will be named and there will probably be some type of
informational board for the gardeners or anybody else who comes by.
Ms. Krieger asked what is typically done with the garden during the winter. Mr. Lee said
basically, all gardeners who rent a plot will sign a contract saying they are responsible for
the clean-up of their plot. If there is somebody who neglects their garden someone from
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the steering committee will give them a gentle reminder. Beyond that the Parks Department
is prepared to go in and take care of any unsightly debris that is left behind.
Mr. Welker asked if the Parks Department will be responsible for the initial tilling and
preparation of the garden before the season starts. Mr. Lee said he believed the Parks
Department will be responsible. There are several trees that need to be moved, the sod will
need to be stripped and compost will need to be tilled in to loosen up the soil. That work
will all be done by either volunteers or by the Parks Department.
Mr. Welker asked who would be responsible for removal of garbage. Mr. Lee said trash
cans will be placed at the site and it will be treated like any other park. Parks workers will
visit the area regularly. Any other refuse will be composted.
Mr. Welker asked if there had been any conversations with adjoining neighbors. Mr. Lee
said there was a community meeting a week ago and approximately 22 people attended.
Most were from the neighborhood. People from the steering committee and Cultural Arts
canvassed the neighborhood, distributed flyers and spoke to as many people as they could
that were home at the time. They asked for any concerns, interest, etc.
Mr. Fish asked if any restroom facilities would be provided. Mr. Lee said not at the depot
site itself, but there are restrooms located in the park across the street. Most community
gardens do not have restroom facilities available so this site will be one of the few that do.
Mr. Welker asked if the re had be en any thought of de si gna ting a plot for use by the
schools. Mr. Lee said that has not been discussed at this point, but schools would certainly
be welcome if there is an interest. Bishop Elementary, which is southeast of the proposed
site, already has a garden.
Chair Bleile asked the Commissioners had any further questions. They did not. He thanked
Mr. Lee for his testimony.
Knoth moved:
Fish seconded: THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE #USE2009-011 BE CLOSED
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Bleile, Roth, Welker, Krieger, Knoth, Fish, King, Brick
None
None
Calonder
Motion carried .
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Knoth moved:
Krieger seconded: CASE #USE2009-011, CO ND ITIO NA L USE PERMIT FOR A
COMMUNITY CARDEN IN AN R-2-8 ZONE DISTRICT AT 601
WEST DARTMOUTH AVENUE, BE APPROVED
~ Mr. Brick said he believes this project gives the opportunity for people to get together .
Chair Bleile said he felt it would be a good use of the property as it has been sitting there
for a long time.
Ms. Krieger agreed . She said it is a park and you do see people walking their do gs or
playing occasionally, but Cushing Park is right across the street so it's not really needed as a
park. She sees this project as a higher and better use of the property.
Mr. Fish said he doesn 't believe the area is over utilized at this time and doesn 't feel th e
project will impact the area adversely in any way. It is a good utilization of the property and
is definitely in compliance with the Municipal Code.
Ms. Krieger said the only concern that the neighborhood might have is when the gardens ·
are lying fallow there will be dirt blowing around, but it should be no worse than any other
garden area and the scree-ning will help . She doesn 't necessarily see that as a reason to not
do the project.
Mr. Welker said it's a very appropriate use of the park as it will serve a segment of the
population. If this one is done well, maybe it will stimulate another one in a different area of
the City. It can also be a good teaching experience for children.
There being no further comments Chair Bleile called for a vote.
AYES:
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ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Bleile, Roth, Welker, Krieger, Knoth, Fish, King, Brick
None
None
Calonder
Motion carried.
IV. CAPITAL PROJECTS DISCUSSION
~ Chair Bleile asked the Commissioners if they wanted to go through the spreadsheet
line by line or focus on specific line items . Mr. Brick said the information contained in the
meeting packet was quite an improvement in terms of visual, reading and understanding
• over last year's packet. It was agreed to not go line by line.
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Director White said he spoke to Assistant City Manager Flaherty today and asked
realistically how much money there will be for new projects in 2010. There are three main
sources that fund the Public Improvement Fund:
1. Vehicle use tax
2. Building use tax
3. Arapahoe County Road and Bridge tax.
Year to date actual reve nue collected from those sources is approximately $500,000 .
Projections are that by the end of the year there may be roughly $2 ,000,0 00. Mr. Flaherty
said to use these numbers to frame tonight's discussion. Director White said things ma y
turn around and we might anticipate $2,500,000 in revenue in 2010, but with multiple year
maintenance projects already built into the Capital Project Budget taking up about
$2,000,000, there might be $500,000 to use. Hopefully, that information will help the
Commission with tonight's discussion.
Mr. Fish asked if the list provided to the Commissioners was all of the capital
improvements. Chair White said that was correct. It goes out to 2013.
Mr. Brick asked if anything has been done regarding the Medical District sanitary sewer
improvement. Director White said nothing has been done to date . Mr. Brick said that :-night
be a project that could be done with a small amount of money. M~. Krieger sai d that
project would be very expensive.
Mr. Welker said he hopes that the City will start looking at other ways of servicing .th e iot at
Highway 285 and South Clarkson Street. There is currently a sewer line across the str eet.
We need a creative solution for the property. Mr. Knoth said if a user is interested in th e
property they'll figure the sewer issues out. Mr. Fish said he would vote for trying to figure
out how to resolve the sewer issue on that property.
Mr. Welker suggest ed keeping the list prepared earlier this year by Planning and Zoning
and Staff since not much money is available.
Director White said now is the time to do planning, engineering and feasibility studies until
the Public Improvement Fund is better funded in future years. He stated he is placing those
types of studies in the Community Development budget and not asking for funding through
the Capital Budget so we are not dependent on city-wide priorities to get those plans in
place when money does become available and can move the construction forward .
Chair Bleile asked if building permits fall under Community Development. Director White
said they do not. Mr. Bleile asked if the permit tracking program was ever instituted .
Director White said yes, it had been and is used by Building, Community Development and
Code Enforcement.
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Chair Bleile said he feels Englewood is truly a good local community. He said he doesn't
see a lot of excess in the budget; these are true legitimate expenses of running and
operating a city. He asked the other commissioners for input.
Discussion centered on IT improvements/maintenance and the ability to now pay
water/sewer bills on-line. Mr. Knoth noted he did not see a line item for bringing businesses
to the City. Mr. Roth said that would not be considered a capital expense.
Director White said that would be more a function of Community Development. There is
one staff person dedicated to business attraction/recruitment/retention/expansion, but
there is no money set aside for just that. There is, however, money set aside for marketing
and we receive money from the State for the Enterprise Zone.
Discussion ensued regarding incentives for businesses to move to Englewood. Director
White said the City has the Enterprise Zone serving the industrial portion of the City, the
Catalyst program, we have great access and transportation and the City moves people
through the approval process quickly. Director White said he hasn't been able to convince
City Council to talk about monetary incentives.
Mr. Brick said he believes businesses do want to come to Englewood. He said he very
much enjoyed hearing from Mr. Hollingsworth, Economic Development Coordinator, about
18 months ago and would like to have him attend another Planning and Zoning meeting.
Mr. Fish asked if Engle woo d's vacancy ra tes '.3r:: on :'."lr:r Nith r_~·ihe r surrou n di n g Cir eas. Mr.
Knoth said they are the same as the rest of the city.
Chair Bleile said economically you look for the biggest bang for the buck such as Pirate's
Cove. You want to put money where it attracts people. Outside of the business perspective
you need to look at the economic condition of surrounding neighborhoods. If you raise the
median income of a particular area it's going to attract busine sses. He said he felt the City
should be strategically marketing the Medi cal and Downtown District Small Area Plan . Mr.
Knoth said he wasn't sure the City would receive much sales tax from that.
Mr. Welker said he would like the City to be looking for opportunities where we might
further our plan for beautification and encourage development. Whether that is Capital
Improvement Budget or something else, he would like to see continued improvement in
the efforts to put the Medical and Downtown District Small Area Plan in front of people,
especially national retailers. He said he is disappointed in what the City seems to have been
able to gather in terms of redevelopment along the railroad. In the City of Littleton all up
and down from Belleview through downtown there has been a considerable amount of
redevelopment. There are new apartments and life in an area that was basically stagnant for
a long time. We have the old Martin Plastics property that is just sitting there. It's near
residential and very close to a light rail station .
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Mr. Knoth said there is too much product on the market in Englewood right now. He
showed the Martin Plastics property to a multi-family developer, but they passed because
they said there is too much of that product on the market already. Mr. Welker said in the
10 years we have had light rail there has been only one project built of the type we
expected to get along transit, which is across the street from City offices. He would like to
know why Englewood doesn't have more redevelopment like Littleton and Denver. What
can be done to attract or stimulate development?
Chair Bleile stated he believes Englewood doesn't have the perception of being family
friendly . He said from his own personal experience from not having children until last
year .... what do you do with them? He wished there were more parks to go to and things to
do. Arvad a has a huge soccer field that is filled with people every single weekend;
Highlands Ranch has numerous recreation centers with large pools, etc. People want to live
in an area .because of the perception it is family oriented, the City is growing, etc.
Mr. Welker said we have some of those things: we have Pirate's Cove and a recreation
center and are both related to the neighborhoods we are talking about. Chair Bleile agreed
those two amenities are great ones and should be given money for improvements, if
needed. Mr. Welker also noted the City has great parks.
Mr. King said t he schools are a huge problem. Ms. Krieger said it's a perception that the
schools are not good, it's not that they are. Mr. King disagreed. Several Commissioners
stated they hav ~ pull ed their children out of the Englewood school system and placed them
in private schools.
Mr. Welker said the point of all this is that he doesn't want the City to be the problem, he
wants the City to encourage, support, to beautify and work on its image .... to do all it can to
be attractive.
Chair Bl ei le asked if there was anything els e Directo r White n eede d from the Commission.
Director White asked for any recommendations the Commission might have.
Ms. Krieger said she agreed with Mr. Welker and felt the priorities the Commission
compiled earlier this year are still important. Chair Bleile agreed. Mr. Brick said the planning,
engineering and feasibility studies Director White suggested was the way to go .
Mr. Fish recommended the Commission use the priority list 1 through 6 established earlier
in the year. Ms . Krieger agreed. She asked if anyone disagreed. No one disagreed. Mr. Brick
asked that Community Development add to the list planning and engineering of those
priorities in order to be prepared for when money is available .
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V. PUBLIC FORUM
.If] There was no public present.
VI. DIRECTOR'S CHOICE
~ Director White ha d nothing further t o report.
VII. STAFF'S CHOICE
lfil1 Staff had nothing further to report.
VIII. ATTORNEY'S CHOICE
Ms. Reid wa .s not present.
IX. C OMMISSIONER'S CHOICE
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Mr. Roth noted a meeting had been held a week ago on streetscape design for the Medical
and Downtown District Small Area Pl an. He presented a flyer from th e m eeti n g. Ch air Bleile
said th e flyer was a great marketing tool. Director White sa i d the results of l:h e meetin g
would be available soo n. He noted th e plan is very concep tu al and you can't really build
from it. !h e consulting gro up is recommending a priority list be established for .the next . ' ..
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The meeting ad journed at 8:10 p.m.
Barbara Kreck!