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PRESENT:
ABSENT:
OTHERS:
BOARD OF CAREER SERVICE COMMISSIONERS
MARCH 20, 1986
PUBLIC HEARING
Tom Fitzpatrick, Cathy Pokraka, Janet Kerzic,
JoEllen Turner, Don Weber
None
Peter Juenemann, EEA/AFSCME President
Michael Gruninger, EFFA President
Darlene Gruninger, Police Department
Jim Abshire, Data Processing
Chairman Don Weber opened the public hearing set to review the
Rules and Regulations. Roll call was taken and a quorum was
established. ·
Chairman Weber read the public notice as published in the
Sentinel. The Recording Secretary handed out copies of Rules and
Regulations to all interested p arties.
The Rules and Regulations were reviewed in the following order:
Rule 1. Organization of the Board
1.1 Members of the Board. The Career Service Board shall
consist of five members. Two members are appointed by the city
Council for terms of four years and two members are elected by
the full time permanent classified employees of the City for
terms of four years. The fifth member shall be selected by a
majority vote of the four members so appointed and elected, and
shall serve for a term of four years from the date of selection.
With initial selection of the fifth member, the Board shall be
duly constituted.
Commissioner Weber read the rule and brought up a question
regarding unfilled terms causing a lapse problem and asked for
comments. Commissioner Pokraka referred to City Charter 138.3
which states a Commissioner should serve for the term of four
years. Commissioner Weber suggested the exact wording from
Charter be used. After discussion amongst the Board members it
was suggested that the last sentence read, ''With initial
selection of the fifth member, the Board shall be duly
constituted in compliance with City Charter 138.3."
Commissioner Weber then asked for comments from the Gallery.
Michael Gruninger addressed the Board and questioned why that
paragraph was a part of the Rules and Regulations of the Board.
Chairman Weber explained that the Charter states the Board should
effect their own rules and regulations .
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Gary Kasson address the Board and asked for further clarification
to indicate how the fifth person is selected and suggests that a
few comments be added on to the paragraph to explain that to the
average employee or citizen who reads these. Chairman Weber
explained that the fifth member is selected by the four other
members of the Board and they attempt to find someone who is
interested. Kasson expressed concern about the experience level
as well as whether the employee can trust or be guaranteed the
person on this Board is capable. Chairman Weber explained that it
is a lay Board and has always been intended to be so. Legal
advice is given by an Attorney, and the Board as a whole votes on
contested issues. Kasson also asked whether the Policy and
Procedures Manual of the City was used in formulating these Rules
and Regulations. Commissioner Weber explained that the Board is
a separate entity and those manuals have nothing to do with the
Board. Kasson further explained that it is confusing to
employees when they read one thing in one document and something
else in rules such as these, and an employee does not know what
is correct and what isn't unless it is appealed. He would
therefore like to have the Board add a section stating that this
document supersedes any other procedures, etc. Commissioner
Weber again informed Mr. Kasson that this is a quasi-judicial
body who has the authority to make their own rules and the
Charter takes precedent over ordinance and ordinance takes
precedent over these rules and those are the only three documents
you need to be concerned with when it comes to the Career Service
system. What the Board has is consistent with the City Charter
and Ordinance.
Michael Gruninger again addressed the Board and stated that there
is an inconsistency. City Ordinance 5.1.4, Paragraph G, states
two members shall have three year terms. Commissioner Pokraka
pointed out this particular Ordinance is inconsistent with
Charter. Pokraka suggested the Board have a meeting with City
Council concerning this inconsistency.
Darlene Gruninger addressed the Board and had a question ·
regarding the election of the Chairperson. Is there any
background check done on the potential Chairperson? Chairman
Weber pointed out that most times it is a person who has not been
associated with the City and the members look for someone who is
acceptable to the City/employee-elected people and who is known
in the City as a fair, impartial person .
1.2 Officers of the Board. Officers of the Board are a
Chairperson, Vice Chairperson and Recording Secretary. The fifth
member of the Board selected as provided in 1.1 hereof, shall
serve as its Chairperson for a term of four years from the date
of selection. A Vice Chairperson shall be elected by a majority
of the members of the Board and shall serve for a term of four
years from the date of election or until expiration of his or her
term as a member of the Board. The Recording Secretary shall be
designated by the city Manager and shall serve at the pleasure of
the City Manager.
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Chairperson Weber asked for discussion from the Board Members.
There were none. Weber then asked for comments from the Gallery .
Jim Abshire, member of the Employees Association requested
clarification on the phrase "serve at the pleasure of the City
Manager". Chairman Weber explained that the city Manager simply
selects that person and the Board has no control over that.
Abshire then asked what the procedure would be if that did not
happen -and the services of the Recording Secretary would no
longer be available? Weber explained that according to Ordinance
he must provide the Board with that service.
Abshire further explained that the Association has a concern
because the Recording Secretary is a full time staff person of
the Employee Relations Department and that Department is involved
in negotiations and they wondered whether or not there was a
bias. Chairman Weber explained that the Recording Secretary does
not need to be unbiased, since she isn't involved in the decision
making process. She is not privy to Executive Session,
deliberations of the Board: she only hears the same information
each of you hear.
The other concern the Association has is her responsibility to
transfer communication of grievanc es to the Board. Weber stated
again that as long as they meet the timeline and have the
grievance copy stamped, there should be no problem.
Abshire requested a revision of the grievance form have the
appropriate number of the copies so that one copy can be date
stamped. Chairperson Weber stated that later under Rules and
Regulations, that will be dealt with.
Donna Wood, Englewood Police Officer addressed the Board. Wood
questioned the wording of sentence one "Officers of the Board are
a Chairperson, Vice Chairperson and Recording Secretary". That
gives six people to the Board. Chairperson Weber informed Wood
that the Secretary is not a member of the Board, but an Officer.
Under Duties of the Board, Section 1.5 explains it further.
Michael Gruninger asked for clarification of the Recording
Secretary position. According to Charter, how can you be an
Officer and not a member? Commissioner Weber explained that an
Officer is an appointed or designated member to receive or
transact certain types of business for the Board.
1.3 Vacancies. Whenever a vacancy shall occur in the office of
Chairperson, the remaining members of the Board shall select a
successor within 60 days. Whenever a vacancy shall occur in the
off ice of Vice Chairperson, the remaining members of the Board
shall elect successor on or before the next regular meeting of
the Board to fill the vacancy for the unexpired term. Whenever a
vacancy shall occur in the office of Recording Secretary, the
City Manager shall appoint a successor within ten days after the
vacancy occurs .
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Chairman Weber read the paragraph and called for a change in the
reading of sentence two, "Whenever a vacancy shall occur in the
off ice of Vice Chairperson, the remaining members of the Board
shall elect a successor on or before the next regular meeting of
the Board to fill the vacancy for a term of four years from the
date of election or until expiration of his/her term as a member
of the Board."
Chairman Weber asked for comments from the Gallery. Michael
Gruninger addressed the Board and asked who the Vice Chairperson
is. Weber explained that the Vice Chairperson is the person
selected as an Officer of the Board and selected by the majority
of the Board. No where in Charter does it call for a Vice
Chairperson, but the Board does have a right to select their own.
1.4 Duties of the Chairperson and Vice Chairperson. The
Chairperson of the Board shall preside at all meetings of the
Board, and, subject to appeal of the entire Board, shall make all
rulings on evidentiary matters at hearings before the Board. He
shall sign all official documents issued by the Board when so
authorized, except that decisions of the Board shall be signed by
all members of the Board authorized to participate in such
decisions. In the absence or inability of the Chairperson, the
Vice Chairperson shall have and perform all of the powers and
duties of the Chairperson.
Chairman Weber asked for discussion from the Board members.
Commissioner Pokraka questioned grammar of sentence one. After
discussion from the Board members, it was suggested the sentence
remain as written.
Chairman Weber asked for comments from the Gallery. Donna Wood
addressed the Board and suggested word "an'' be included before
word appeal. It was discussed further and the following change
was recommended, "The Chairperson of the Board shall preside at
all meetings of the Board, and, subject to appeal to the Board
members present, shall make all rulings on evidentiary matters at
hearings before the Board."
1.5 Duties of the Recording Secretary. The Recording Secretary
shall keep a record of all proceedings of the Boards, issue all
notices of meetings or hearings required by the City Charter,
city Ordinances or these Rules, and shall keep all official files
and correspondence of the Board.
Chairman Weber asked for discussion from Board members. There
being no recommended changes from Board members or Gallery, Weber
moved on.
Rule 2. MEETINGS OF THE BOARD
2.1 Regular Meetings. Regular meetings of the Career Service
Board shall be held on the third Thursday in each of the months
of January, March, May, July, September and November in City Hall
or other City facility specified in the notice of the meeting.
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Chairman Weber asked for discussion from Board members. There
being no recommended changes from Board members, Weber asked for
comments from the Gallery .
Gary Kasson addressed the Board and asked that time be
designated. Chairman Weber stated the Board wishes to leave time
as a variable to give members flexibility. The time will be
stated on the notice.
2.2 Order of Business. The order of business at all regular
meetings shall be as follows:
Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
Associations' Choice
City Manager's Choice
Commissioner's Choice
Old Business
New Business
Scheduled Hearings
Unscheduled Visitors
Adjournment
Chairperson Weber asked for discussion from Board members on
whether or not scheduled hearings should be separate and not a
part of the regular meeting. It was recommended that the word
hearings should be replaced with "visitors". Weber asked for
comments from the Gallery .
Michael Gruninger asked the Board whether or not they can come to
the Board and ask questions if they need answers regarding
procedure.
2.3 Special Meetings. Special meetings of the Board may be
called by the Chairperson, by a majority of the entire board. At
any special meeting, no business other than that stated in the
notice of said meeting shall be transacted, unless all members
are present and shall consent to consider and transact other
business.
Chairman Weber asked for discussion from the Board members and
suggested that the first sentence read, "Special meetings of the
Board may be called by the Chairperson, or by a majority of the
board."
Chairman Weber asked for comments from Gallery. There being
none, he moved on.
2.4 Notice of Meetings and Hearing. The Recording Secretary of
the Board shall cause written notice of every meeting, whether
special or regular, to be mailed .or delivered to the home address
of each member of the Board, to the Offices of the City Manager,
the City Attorney, the Employee Relations Department, and to the
Presidents of exclusively recognized employee organizations, the
appellant and the appellant's attorney, if applicable. Notices
of meetings shall be posted in City Hall at least 24 hours prior
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to each meeting. The notice of each special meeting shall state
the date, time, place, and purpose of the meeting. If the notice
is to be delivered, it shall be delivered no later than 24 hours
prior to the hour set for the meetings, and if it is to be
mailed, it shall be mailed no later than 72 hours prior to the
hour set for the meetings. Any member may waive notice of the
time, place, and purpose of a meeting at any time before, during,
or after such meetings, and attendance thereat shall be deemed to
be a waiver.
Commissioner Weber asked the President's of the Associations
whether receiving notices is a problem. Michael Gruninger stated
he does not receive his notices. Darlene Gruninger suggested the
notices be sent in separate envelope and addressed to the
individual. Commissioner Weber suggested a meeting be set up
with Bev to work out this problem.
2.5 Quorum. A majority of the entire Board shall constitute a
quorum for the transaction of business.
Co~~issioner Weber called for discussion from Board and Gallery.
Hearing none he moved on.
2.6 Voting. All voting at any meetings may be by voice vote
except that voting at hearings shall be by roll call vote. No
motion or questions shall be decided except upon the vote of the
majority of the Board members present.
Commissioner Weber called for discussion. Commissioner Pokraka
suggested wording be changed to read "All voting at any meeting
may be by voice vote except that voting at hearings shall be by
roll call vote. No motion or question shall be decided except
upon the vote of the majority of the Board members present.
Commissioner Weber called for discussion from Gallery. Hearing
none he proceeded.
Rule 3. FILINGS WITH THE BOARD
3.1 All documents of any kind required or permitted to
with the Career Service Board shall only be deemed when
properly documented with the Recording Secretary at the
of Employee Relations in City Hall.
be filed
filed and
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Commissioner Weber and Pokraka suggested change in reading to
"All documents of any kind required or permitted to be filed with
the Career Service Board shall only be deemed filed when filed
and properly documented with the Recording Secretary of the
Board.
After discussion from the Commissioners and Gallery it was
decided the paragraph read: "All documents of any kind required
or permitted to be filed with the Career Service Board shall only
be deemed filed when filed and properly documented with the
Recording Secretary of the Board. Proper documentation shall
consist of date and time of filing and signature of Recording
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Secretary or Designee and shall be prima facie evidence of the
date and time of filing."
3.2 The Recording Secretary shall immediately date stamp all
filings and such date stamp shall be prima facie evidence of the
date of filing.
After discussion from the Commissioners and Gallery it was
decided this rule could be eliminated since it was incorporated
into Rule 3.1.
Gary Kasson suggested that a statement should be made that if a
grievance is filed all copies should have the date stamp and that
the person filing the document receive a copy for their records.
It was suggested by Commissioner Fitzpatrick that this kind of
detail be listed on the form itself and include the directive in
the job description of the Recording Secretary.
3.3 The Recording Secretary is to contact the Chairperson or in
the absence of the Chairperson, Board Member immediately upon
receipt of any notification to ask whether it is essential to
send out immediately.
Commissioner Weber called for discussion from the Board of this
rule. It was suggested that the Rule be renumbered and read: 3.2
"Immediately upon receipt of any notification, the Recording
Secretary is to contact the Chairperson or a Board Member to
determine disposition."
Rule 4. SETTING HEARINGS
4.1 Special Meetings or Hearings. Whenever it appears that a
document filed with the Recording Secretary requires the Board to
set a hearing or take any other action prior to the next regular
meeting of the Board, a special meeting shall be called by the
Chairperson or a majority of the Board.
Commissioner Weber asked for discussion from the Board and it was
decided the Rule should read as follows: "4.1 Hearings.
Hearings shall be called by the Chairperson or a majority of the
Board."
Chairman Weber called for a five minute recess. When the Board
reconvened, roll call was taken and all Board members were
present.
The next order of business was the grievance form. Commissioner
Weber asked for comments regarding the form and why it is not
working. The Board will take suggestions at this meeting and
draft up a form at future meetings .
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Gary Kasson stated that until this hearing the document was
unknown to him. He suggested that any form should have multiple
copies. Legal size paper is not handy, letter size is easier to
work with and file. suggest that there be a note on top
explaining that the form covers more complaints, disciplinary and
merit appeals. The form should reflect the process that is to be
followed. Suggest that only information needed is employee name
and phone numbers unless otherwise needed.
Michael Gruninger has a problem with one form since it may not
apply to all grievances. Also concerned that there is no
specific place to make a note of the meeting that might take
place through oral discussions. He would suggest that the
Grievance Report-General form be revised and used for both
grievance and merit appeals because it has all signatures.
Darlene Gruninger requested clarification on what is the initial
contact. Commissioner Weber informed her that the first time the
issue was discussed is the first initial contact.
Commissioner Pokraka pointed out that according to Ordinance,
Section 3-lN-9, there is no need for the form to be used for
Disciplinary appeals, a letter will be adequate and needs to be
filed with the Recording Secretary.
After discussion was finished, it was suggested the form be
revised as follows:
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GRIEVANCE REPORT -INDIVIDUAL OR GENERAL
• Employee Name, Address, Phone, Horne/Work
Association Name Date Grievance was Observed
Representative (narne,address,phone) Date Grievance was Filed
Step l. (For Merit Appeal Only)
Narrative Statement of Complaint
State Relief sought:
If additional space is needed, attach separate sheet.
Association Representative's Signature Date~~~~
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Date
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Career Service Chairman's Signature Date
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Employee's Signature Date.~~~~
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Commissioner Pokraka suggested that the Rules and Regulations •
include a paragraph stating the Grievance Procedure to help
clarify the process for employees.
Searl Brier from Employee Relations Department would like to be
involved in designing the form and specifying the process.
Chairman Weber asked for the form to be ready for the next
regular meeting.
Since there was no other issues to be discussed, Chairman Weber
moved for motion to adjourn. Commissioner Fitzpatrick so moved.
Don Weber, Chairman
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